List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
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  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

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  Def

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  20.7

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  15.2

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  5.5

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  6.2

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  T

  1.8

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  MG

  386.5

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  D

  13.0

  3star

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  10.0

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  3.0

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  M

  7.0

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  T

  0.0

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  201.0

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  D

  24.0

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  K

  15.4

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  HB

  8.6

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  M

  5.8

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  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
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  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

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  9.0

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  4.8

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  4.2

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  2.1

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  T

  3.8

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  159.6

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  D

  10.5

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  K

  6.5

  3star

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  4.0

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  M

  2.5

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  T

  4.0

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  196.5

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  9.0

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  4.2

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  HB

  4.8

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  M

  2.4

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  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Not sure I can remember a time when pick 1 in the PSD has had a player they wanted to keep asking for a trade either ? Unless I missed one

We’ll just ignore that he can go into the ND, and that that’s been a rule since 2009?

I mean, I’m sure there’s plenty of examples of what you’ve said anyway. A wooden spoon team having a required player ask for a trade? Wouldn’t be uncommon.

 

[KERRPOW]

And the point of this post is what exactly?

Six of the 13 players taken before Chesser are also missing from that list and the only player taken after him on there is Dempsey who Geelong took in the rookie draft

just making a joke to try and bait some chesser haters on here.

 

[bzparkes]

So how many of our players are on 2 or less years?

The ones that are young, or close to retirement. you're the one who said you're all for small contract lengths, then for someone reason referenced Simpson in a thread on players.

Personally I’m all for small contract lengths, WTF is wrong with a 2 year contract?
We’ve just come off a disastrous patch where Simmo was on a 5 year contract, a number of older players, Gaff for example on long contracts when they were clearly stuffed.
2 year contracts sound bloody tremendous to me, perform or **** off!

If you want to keep your best players, you have to offer them long contracts.

Anyone can be a hindsight hero though, as you've repeatedly shown.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

We’ll just ignore that he can go into the ND, and that that’s been a rule since 2009?

I mean, I’m sure there’s plenty of examples of what you’ve said anyway. A wooden spoon team having a required player ask for a trade? Wouldn’t be uncommon.

That wouldn’t be something he would do. Anyone besides Nick Stevens done that ?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

That wouldn’t be something he would do. Anyone besides Nick Stevens done that ?

Nick Stevens didn’t, it wasnt available then. Luke Ball and Ben Jacobs are the two examples that spring to mind. It hasn’t really happened since, but that’s because it hasn’t had to because clubs have just done the trades.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

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Could be 5 future Eagles here
1-5- Duursma/Sharp
Hawks F1- Curtin?
NGA/FS- Banfield/Evans/Walley

Heppell has the good talls and Sloane good smalls

 

[ArdentEagle]

Heppell has the good talls and Sloane good smalls

I think you're getting Sloane mix up with Dal Santo mate

 

[Bender_]

View attachment 2122373
Could be 5 future Eagles here
1-5- Duursma/Sharp
Hawks F1- Curtin?
NGA/FS- Banfield/Evans/Walley

What is this?

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

What is this?

Best U17s play grand final day as a futures game.

 

[random260]

Well there marks the cherry on top of Devs shit sandwich. He stayed and is now going to he watching lions play in grand final as a cheerleader. Not even an emergency.

If he had fire in his belly he would be packing his bags right about now

 

[Tugga27]

Well there marks the cherry on top of Devs shit sandwich. He stayed and is now going to he watching lions play in grand final as a cheerleader. Not even an emergency.

If he had fire in his belly he would be packing his bags right about now

You really need to drop your obsession with Dev.

It sounds unhinged TBH.

 

[random260]

You really need to drop your obsession with Dev.

It sounds unhinged TBH.

Should have added that's my last post regarding dev. Until he request a trade

A post had to be made as a grand finale

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

It just is.

Richmond has pick 1 in PSD. He isnt going to walk away for nothing...

Baker can go in the main draft and set his terms like Luke Ball did .

I highly doubt it happens .

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

So Barrass for 13 + Macginnes/Serong/Reeves
I wonder if we can ontrade 13+Trew/Rotham for Bolton?

 

[Wooshaaaa]

$700 thousand with incentives should be more than enough to pay for waterman off the back of one seasons form… garbage list management


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It's called market value.

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[AsterixTheGaul]

Nick Stevens didn’t, it wasnt available then. Luke Ball and Ben Jacobs are the two examples that spring to mind. It hasn’t really happened since, but that’s because it hasn’t had to because clubs have just done the trades.

Carlton took Jack Martin through the PDS

 

[PremiershipNo4]

The ones that are young, or close to retirement. you're the one who said you're all for small contract lengths, then for someone reason referenced Simpson in a thread on players.



If you want to keep your best players, you have to offer them long contracts.

Anyone can be a hindsight hero though, as you've repeatedly shown.

You always been a Simmo Hero boy, this is fun!
So getting back to the discussion, the original post was about Garcia, a player who has played half the year playing in the VFL unable to cement a spot in the Western Bulldogs AFL team.
Apparently WC have offered said player a 2 year contract, which you clearly find grossly inadequate.
It is not my thinking that is flawed but yours clearly is, a 2 year contact for a player of that ilk is more than sufficient.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Carlton took Jack Martin through the PDS

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I was asked for examples of players putting themselves into the ND.

Martin and Hately went straight to the PSD because they were guaranteed to get to their team of choice that way.

Ball and Jacobs didn’t because they were better off going to the ND.

Since that became an option, I’m not aware of any uncontracted player who’s either given up on a trade request and re-signed, or gone into the draft but ended up back at the club they tried to leave.

Every uncontracted player since then who’s asked for a trade has got to their destination one way or the other. Unlike contracted players, where there’s a few examples (eg Papley, Mitch Brown, Kelly in 2018) of players who’ve ended up having to stay.

Which is why there’s a clear difference between Bolton’s situation and Baker’s. (Which is where this started)

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Ryan, mate, you can’t start a tweet like that.

Sounds front loaded with some triggers at the end, which means the salary floor simply should not be an issue next year.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

You always been a Simmo Hero boy, this is fun!
So getting back to the discussion, the original post was about Garcia, a player who has played half the year playing in the VFL unable to cement a spot in the Western Bulldogs AFL team.
Apparently WC have offered said player a 2 year contract, which you clearly find grossly inadequate.
It is not my thinking that is flawed but yours clearly is, a 2 year contact for a player of that ilk is more than sufficient.

You’ve been arguing no player should get more than two years, and you’re pointing to one (reported) offer to one fringe player as proof you’re right and bzparkes is wrong.

Classic.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

You’ve been arguing no player should get more than two years, and you’re pointing to one (reported) offer to one fringe player as proof you’re right and bzparkes is wrong.

Classic.

Dream on!
I have never argued no player is worth more than 2 years. Prove me wrong.

 

[bzparkes]

You always been a Simmo Hero boy, this is fun!

I've long moved on, he lives rent free in your head.

So getting back to the discussion, the original post was about Garcia, a player who has played half the year playing in the VFL unable to cement a spot in the Western Bulldogs AFL team.
Apparently WC have offered said player a 2 year contract, which you clearly find grossly inadequate.
It is not my thinking that is flawed but yours clearly is, a 2 year contact for a player of that ilk is more than sufficient.

How do you get him to move if another club's offering 2 in Vic? Despite being born in WA, it's much easier to stay where you are if another club's offering a similar deal.

You have to offer them more if you want them to commit, it's as simple as that.

You won't be getting many, if any, successful trades offering them 2 years and the ones that do come would be de-list material to begin with.

 

[bzparkes]

Dream on!
I have never argued no player is worth more than 2 years. Prove me wrong.

Care to clarify the below then?

Personally I’m all for small contract lengths, WTF is wrong with a 2 year contract?
We’ve just come off a disastrous patch where Simmo was on a 5 year contract, a number of older players, Gaff for example on long contracts when they were clearly stuffed.
2 year contracts sound bloody tremendous to me, perform or **** off!

 

[PremiershipNo4]

I've long moved on, he lives rent free in your head.



How do you get him to move if another club's offering 2 in Vic? Despite being born in WA, it's much easier to stay where you are if another club's offering a similar deal.

You have to offer them more if you want them to commit, it's as simple as that.

You won't be getting many, if any, successful trades offering them 2 years and the ones that do come would be de-list material to begin with.

He lives rent paid in your head, what a Simmo fan boy comment………I expect nothing less.

He’s a WA boy that could move home to an almost guaranteed starting 18 role, a 2 year contract is fine.

 

[squashface]

Ryan, mate, you can’t start a tweet like that.

Sounds front loaded with some triggers at the end, which means the salary floor simply should not be an issue next year.

And he ends it with some pity credit for Woodcock. “See he breaks stories sometimes too!!!”