List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[bzparkes]

A deal I’d do with North

Big bid for Josh Rotham which nets us pick 5.
Eagles trade pick picks 13,26,30 for Zac Fisher (Barass compo plus 26)
North trade pick 13,26,30 for Houston (Port cover some of Houston’s salary)

So deal is

Eagles get pick 5 and Zac Fisher for 13,26,30
North get Houston and Rotham for Zac Fisher
Port get 13,26,30 for Houston

North giving up 2 mill on salary space over 5 years basically to get Houston for cheap . Eagles take on Zac Fisher plus dump a ton of picks to get pick 5 as Thanks . Port gets picks to get trades done.

Fisher would be a good pickup for us to fill a need. I’d trade future 2nd to get back in then 30s also

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

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Who says No?

 

[Chris_6678]

Hahaha

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Hahaha

How does Port get our pick 30

Big hole in that

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Hahaha

That’s an absolute ripper deal isn’t it

 

[Barrybran]

Hahaha

WTF?! Who is coming up with these trades?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

As a restricted free agent you have the right to match the offer and force a trade

Clubs need to start doing this, way to much power with the players now.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

How much attention do the clubs really pay to the draft combine?

 

[Barrybran]

How does Port get our pick 30

Big hole in that

Two holes actually. Pick 30 from the Barrass trade and something else in the Baker trade, seeing as this suggestion would effectively be 13 for Baker + Port's F4.

 

[RanaNaved]

The Age rankings/mock draft (https://archive.md/uM2zx) make for interesting reading, esp given they say they've spoken to 12 recruiters or list managers this week. West Coast preferences are mentioned a few times (draper, TT, hynes) so I presume we are one of the 12.
If we are heavily into draper as reported and he's expected to make it to 6-7ish, certainly wouldn't surprise to see us trade back even if it only nets us a late 1st rounder or early second. Late first rounder could be used on Baker & retain 14.
Also it says a lot of clubs rate Murphy Reid only mid to late first-round

Draper at 10, they correctly pointed out his skills and decision making as below the other contenders. That combined with his small stature and back makes me want WC to steer well clear

 

[kerrazy]

People suggesting band 1 compo for Rotham.

 

[Barrybran]

People suggesting band 1 compo for Rotham.

It's no more idiotic than paying band 1 salary to Graham

 

[ArdentEagle]

A deal I’d do with North

Big bid for Josh Rotham

35

Josh Rotham

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.8

2star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

167.2

3star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

157.5

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

168.0

3star

which nets us pick 5.
Eagles trade pick picks 13,26,30 for Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

(Barass compo plus 26)
North trade pick 13,26,30 for Houston (Port cover some of Houston’s salary)

So deal is

Eagles get pick 5 and Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

for 13,26,30
North get Houston and Rotham for Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

Port get 13,26,30 for Houston

North giving up 2 mill on salary space over 5 years basically to get Houston for cheap . Eagles take on Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

plus dump a ton of picks to get pick 5 as Thanks . Port gets picks to get trades done.

Fisher would be a good pickup for us to fill a need. I’d trade future 2nd to get back in then 30s also

 

[Campaigner for good]

Haven’t checked in here too much today but willing to bet the flow chart has had a workout post Peatling announcement.

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Haha, this is almost perfect. You left out the final step... Arrows from we caved and not destination club to board melt.

 

[eaglespremiers]

So ESPN saying Langford finished equal with FOS and Jagga in the 2km at 6:25. That is an incredible effort from him and he obviously worked very hard on his tank this year. Just went up in my book.

eaglespremiers can you confirm that report is correct?

Yep, if my stopwatch was accurate.
And for those who want to know about the other Bendigo boys.
Archer Day-Wicks took out his heat in 6 minutes and 33 seconds, Jobe Shanahan ran 6 minutes and 40 seconds (which I think was basically what Jack Whitlock ran) and James Barrat ran 6 minutes and 53 seconds.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Not sure on what grounds the AFL could step in tbh
Not like they can say "Sorry, that's too much to pay for Graham, he's shit, no deal"
And if they object to us walking baker to the psd, then they're effectively saying the psd shouldn't exist. Except it does.....

Paying Graham enough for band 1 is not enough for us to get Baker for free .

Pick 2 for Graham and Baker?

**** that its not let's all bend over backwards to help Richmond month

 

[twce13]

Paying Graham enough for band 1 is not enough for us to get Baker for free .

Pick 2 for Graham and Baker?

**** that its not let's all bend over backwards to help Richmond month

According to VFL media it is

 

[mat11]

Why are we trying to appease Richmond? Graham sucks, Baker should be pick 26 + one of culley or chesser take it or leave it. Tigers won 3 flags in 4 years they don't need a leg up.

Rotham deserves to be delisted not exploited for band 1 compo ffs.



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[Dylan82]

How much attention do the clubs really pay to the draft combine?

Quite a lot actually.

In an even year such as this one, combine results can become what steers final decisions in the make up of club draft boards.


They are a valuable piece of data in assessing potential ceiling, based off various biometric models.

They can also provide some evidence of the work ethic of the prospect - high endurance results, or indeed large improvements from previous tests, are indicative of hard work that entails a high degree of dedication that should transfer well into a professional environment.

Further to this, but just as importantly, the combine provides a valuable insight into the psychology of prospects - their competitiveness, demeanour when placed outside of comfort zones, how they handle all the egos and cameras.


Clubs aren't able to conduct their own physical testing (officially, they aren't even allowed to ask about weight anymore), so the combine becomes an important piece of evidentiary information to backup or counter opinions that have been formed through match-watching and interviews.

 

[BSD]

It's no more idiotic than paying band 1 salary to Graham

Norf got pick 3 as compensation for that spud Mackay last year. He'd never won a F&B in all the years he was the there.
He got a deal that was hugely front ended to make him look like a huge loss to Norf.
Why shouldn't we get similar compensation for a package that includes Rotham and Witherden

 

[Truckosaurus]

We've also seen combine results rocket a player up the rankings and players with enough club interest to be invited subsequently go undrafted.

 

[eaglespremiers]

How much attention do the clubs really pay to the draft combine?

Depends if a player is a fringe option or not.
For Bendigo I don't think it will matter for Travaglia, Shanahan and Barrat who are now all well entrenched options.
And Day-Wicks running a 6 minute and 33 second 2 km trial is great because he should excel at the sprint, agility and vertical and running jump. So he may be pushed up draft calculations slightly but we're talking a few spots, not whole rounds.

 

[stallon]

It's no more idiotic than paying band 1 salary to Graham

At least Graham is a best 22 player

 

[Hook461123]

Saints have a big whinge and are stuck in mediocrity so the AFL decided to gift them pick 8. Now they have to give everyone else band 1 or 2 that are comparable.
Amateur hour. Should be no compo picks before end of round 2. First two rounds should be protected. Draft is meant to be an equalisation method but it's broken at this point.

I liked someone else’s suggestion of getting to prelist one academy/FS player a year and the rest are free game. If teams want more then one of their academy prospects then DRAFT them.
Protect the first two rounds of the draft from academy and compo picks.

 

[Mori]

West Coast clearly have to improve their team defence. It looks like steps are being taken to improve the midfield structure bringing in more defensive minded mids. But if McQualter wants pressure across the field he will need at least 3 aggressive small fwds to do this, because if the opponent can get easy rebound off half back the whole defensive system falls apart. The problem is outside of Long, the West Coast forwards are incapable of putting that pressure on consistently throughout a game.

So for the 3 small fwd spots they are picking from - Long, Cripps, Brockman, Petch, Rawlinson and maybe Champion. That group will struggle to defend the forward 50. Mids like Kelly, Reid, Hewett will spend time fwd but there is no defence with them. And there will be one spot for a midsized forward which Dewar, Hutchinson and Ryan will be competing for alongside the 3 talls.

Trading Ryan out is the way to go. Last year Carlton offered a pick that would of given West Coast Cooper Simpson. This is the option West Coast need to go for this year. Trade Ryan and use the pick on a quick aggressive hard working small fwd. Make defence a non-negotiable and mold young forwards into a competitive unit.

You would also look at the fact that Ryan putting up some awful efforts at the end of the season under Schofield someone he has a past relationship with. So if he won't compete for Schofield what chance has McQualter got of getting anything out of him.