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Done deals:

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
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  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Don’t get me wrong I hate the trade as much as anyone

But I wonder if part of our thinking was that if we proved to Hawthorn we could get the Baker deal done without them, it would increase our negotiating power there?

It’s a low percentage play

Nope. It will just show them we are the weak link and deserve to be bullied.

 

[Obeanie1]

Where are the grammar police when you need them?

They are flat out at the club drafting Pyke's email to members explaining all this to us?

 

[DanWCE]

Stinks of impatience and trying to stop the hurt to the bottom line. Seems like we're far less interested in creating a list for our next premiership tilt and more interested in getting back to being competitive in most games without ever reaching the top 4 or bottom 4.

We've blinked. So disappointing.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

If we end up with 2 F1sts and our 1st next year then I'm thinking stuff Warner and get 3 1st rounders

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Still doesn't mean we should eat a shit sandwich this season

 

[DRK_13]

I am absolutely not excited about Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

. We bent over backwards to get him, he will be judged by fans accordingly.

 

[Dylan82]

I just can't even fathom WTF the club is even thinking.

It's impossible to even position that it's an investment worth paying overs to get hold of.


Did the club pay overs for access to an elite talent? A gun of the competition? No, it got L.******.Baker and M.******.Owies...


It reeks of a sugar hit that may help the club onfield over the short term, but will become an albatross around its neck for the better part of the next decade.


Utter madness. 10 wins in 3 years, yet the club still isn't committed to doing a proper rebuild.





Could have so easily just kept pick 3 and walked L.Baker to PSD.


M.Owies is worth nothing. Carlton was about to delist him. T.Dewar is already better than M.Owies.


Completely borked the chance to gain an elite mid in a strong draft to complement H.Reid.


And don't even have enough points anymore to cover bids on M.Champion without going into deficit.





Beyond worst case scenario here - lose T.Barrass and lose place within the top 10 picks...


L.Baker regardless of performance is guaranteed to become a whipping boy with comparisons being drawn against whoever is taken at pick 3.



The new regime has seemingly done everything it can to piss off the club's supporters, aside from trading H.Reid. (Still another day of trading to come however...). This is a very poor start in getting the endorsement of the fans.

The only thing West Coast supporters have been able to hang hopes upon over during this dumpster fire period, is the prospect of seeing new talent come in and develop. This trade kills that hope, which why so many are so angry about it.




The club will also now be inevitably stained as a soft touch in negotiations for years to come.



Why would Hawthorn now bother to up their bid for T.Barrass? The Eagles just rolled over to one of the worst trades ever for questionable gain.


And the club reckons it can get Ch.Warner next year?... It can't even get L.Baker without embarrassing itself.

 

[Cuzz09]

100% more interested in being competitive in the next couple years.



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[xLeCrAs2x]

Warner was best on for Sydney in the 2022 GF

Darling was also one of our best in 2018 what’s your point? Does that make Darling not a spud now?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Don’t get me wrong I hate the trade as much as anyone

But I wonder if part of our thinking was that if we proved to Hawthorn we could get the Baker deal done without them, it would increase our negotiating power there?

It’s a low percentage play

I think this is what's happened

It's a terrible play but it's the only thing that makes any sense

 

[Footfalcon]

This 100%

The grand final showed him up to be a front runner

His highlight reels are full of, cherry on the top plays from extra man out, rebounds that he got at the end of others hard work

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Don’t get me wrong I hate the trade as much as anyone

But I wonder if part of our thinking was that if we proved to Hawthorn we could get the Baker deal done without them, it would increase our negotiating power there?

It’s a low percentage play

Maybe so.
2 1st round picks or no deal.

 

[jooce8891]

We already got two F1sts today. Both of Carltons f1sts in our ass

possibly the greatest post on this site?

 

[Cuzz09]

Still doesn't mean we should eat a shit sandwich this season

No but I'm just saying should this poopy deal go through we need to load up next year

But you know all 3 1sts will go to Syd

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[daddy_4_eyes]

Eagerly anticipating the sweet sweet deal Clarke will broker when Harley declares he wants to head back to Vic.

 

[xLeCrAs2x]

His highlight reels are full of, cherry on the top plays from extra man out, rebounds that he got at the end of others hard work

Tim Kelly mk2

The exact opposite of what we need

We need a Neale type that can actually get the ball first

 

[SumaGodCoach]

Here's what everyone was offering for 13.

Seven clubs are hunting 2024s most prized draft pick. This is what they’re all offering

Seven-way race for AFL Trade period’s most crucial piece — and what clubs are offering

www.foxsports.com.au

If the 3 for 12 and 14 trade goes through, we might be better off just saying screw it and trade 12 to North or St Kilda as well. Insist that a F1 and current year 2nd is thrown in.

 

[Barrybran]

I saw a great comment somewhere, but people need to also look at what Carlton gave up for pick 14, which they used to get pick 3. It has cost them ALOT also.

The entire trade needs be looks at holistically, and if that Carlton F1 which went to Hawthorn is involved in the Barrass deal, then it stands to reason it needs to be involved in the 'idea' of pick 3 for 12, 14 and Owies.

Pick 3 for 12, Carl F1 (at Hawks), Carl F2 (at Hawks), Owies, Baker etc etc. I'm missing details for brevity but it is a cluster**** and I await to see what Barrass can net us from Hawks now

Barrass + 3 for Baker, 12 + 2 x F1 looks fine on paper but that's going to cost at least our F2 to get the second part done. The net trade effectively becomes Barrass + 3 for 12 + 2 x F1, which is still unders.

 

[squashface]

Maybe we’re trying to get pity picks off Hawthorn?

 

[Lia]

So considering Hawthorns currency, we are going to have one mid first round pick this year after losing pick 3 and Tom Barrass

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Tom Barrass

Age

29

Ht

197cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

6.1

5star

T

0.9

3star

MG

158.5

3star

D

10.1

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

5.6

5star

T

0.3

1star

MG

139.6

2star

D

11.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.4

3star

MG

160.0

3star

. How the **** is that a good outcome?

 

[Cuzz09]

His highlight reels are full of, cherry on the top plays from extra man out, rebounds that he got at the end of others hard work

You could line it up with TK at the cats getting on the end of Selwood/Danger/ablett Jr work

Then they come to us and have to go get the ball and look lost

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[Ambrose Burnside]

All because of a single trade with us.

gg boys

 

[element]

Deal officially done.

 

[GrumpyGoron]

Hawks played us like a damn fiddle

 

[KBLT]

Just readin the room here, looks like MRP will be getting a few very unhappy visitors today.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Don’t get me wrong I hate the trade as much as anyone

But I wonder if part of our thinking was that if we proved to Hawthorn we could get the Baker deal done without them, it would increase our negotiating power there?

It’s a low percentage play

In what way? If anything, this trade shows we are weak negotiators.
As if that wasn't enough we are also giving Carlton late pick sweeteners.
What makes it worse is that those were our 3rd and 4th best picks.