List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Keys]

Don’t get me wrong I hate the trade as much as anyone

But I wonder if part of our thinking was that if we proved to Hawthorn we could get the Baker deal done without them, it would increase our negotiating power there?

It’s a low percentage play

In a sense you’re right

They used our desire to get the Barrass deal done so we could then get Baker to lowball us

By removing that link, at considerable cost mind you, we are no longer pressured to get the Barrass trade done. Instead, the onus is now on Hawthorn to land a player they promised they could broker a deal for

How firm we stand remains to be seen however and as it stands my confidence that we will is at an all time low

 

[Goomba1973]

Don’t get me wrong I hate the trade as much as anyone

But I wonder if part of our thinking was that if we proved to Hawthorn we could get the Baker deal done without them, it would increase our negotiating power there?

It’s a low percentage play

It's a no percentage play....

 

[Mattman93]

I just can't even fathom WTF the club is even thinking.

It's impossible to even position that it's an investment worth paying overs to get hold of.


Did the club pay overs for access to an elite talent? A gun of the competition? No, it got L.******.Baker and M.******.Owies...


It reeks of a sugar hit that may help the club onfield over the short term, but will become an albatross around its neck for the better part of the next decade.


Utter madness. 10 wins in 3 years, yet the club still isn't committed to doing a proper rebuild.





Could have so easily just kept pick 3 and walked L.Baker to PSD.


M.Owies is worth nothing. Carlton was about to delist him. T.Dewar is already better than M.Owies.


Completely borked the chance to gain an elite mid in a strong draft to complement H.Reid.


And don't even have enough points anymore to cover bids on M.Champion without going into deficit.





Beyond worst case scenario here - lose T.Barrass and lose place within the top 10 picks...


L.Baker regardless of performance is guaranteed to become a whipping boy with comparisons being drawn against whoever is taken at pick 3.



The new regime has seemingly done everything it can to piss off the club's supporters, aside from trading H.Reid. (Still another day of trading to come however...). This is a very poor start in getting the endorsement of the fans.

The only thing West Coast supporters have been able to hang hopes upon over during this dumpster fire period, is the prospect of seeing new talent come in and develop. This trade kills that hope, which why so many are so angry about it.




The club will also now be inevitably stained as a soft touch in negotiations for years to come.



Why would Hawthorn now bother to up their bid for T.Barrass? The Eagles just rolled over to one of the worst trades ever for questionable gain.


And the club reckons it can get Ch.Warner next year?... It can't even get L.Baker without embarrassing itself.




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Not gonna go for one last dose of optimism to give us all hope like yesterday Dylan?

 

[xLeCrAs2x]

Deal officially done. Absolutely horrendous

 

[BG__]

we got pick 73 too! what a steal

 

[Godfather32]

Does Baker and Owies even make us more competitive next year, enough to win more games?
I would say no and that's without factoring in the loss of Barrass as well. Do they even make up the difference of losing him?

 

[WCErevival]

Gee whiz. We have turned into StKilda. We haven't seen a club fall this far since Hutchy destroyed the Wildcats

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Darling was also one of our best in 2018 what’s your point? Does that make Darling not a spud now?

Darling has been a ripper of a player over his career . Wtf are you on about

 

[dajesmac]

In what way? If anything, this trade shows we are weak negotiators.
As if that wasn't enough we are also giving Carlton late pick sweeteners.
What makes it worse is that those were our 3rd and 4th best picks.

Believe me my intention is not to defend the club. But prior to this Hawthorn may have felt we needed to accept a deal for TB to get our own target. Now the onus is on them.

Getting two late firsts for TB wouldn’t be enough to rescue this trade period though

 

[Vimal Anand]

1: decent but not "very good" and only a few years left in him
2: Freo gets him with 11
3: not part of trade

You could have easily screwed us by saying no to baker and we would have spent 11 on baker.

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[FKASC]

Does Baker and Owies even make us more competitive next year, enough to win more games?
I would say no and that's without factoring in the loss of Barrass as well. Do they even make up the difference of losing him?

Nope

 

[Barrybran]

Definitely going to need some explaining by Clarke, Pyke and probably the board. We're in 'don't come Monday' territory.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Deal officially done. Absolutely horrendous

 

[Corkintheocean]

Pathetic

 

[pantskyle]

pantskyle I guess the experts know best, compared to our subjective opinions though right?

 

[mat11]

Cal twomey reporting it'd a done deal. **** this club


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[Spod]

Club absolutely need to put someone out to explain themselves right now. Absolutely ridiculous turn of events.

 

[Cuzz09]

Waiting for some kind of response from these idiots

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[Lyyynnnchy]

Idk I think you guys are undervaluing baker.

He’s a good player about to enter his prime.

Pick 14 is a little overs but you’ve got an awkward pick to spilt.

If it’s awkward then don’t do it ffs

The one that should be in an awkward position is you. He’s out of context and has given you some good years

 

[EagleMan87]

Ok, now we can all melt...

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Deal officially done.

This is how I feel

 

[Tugga27]

Darling was also one of our best in 2018 what’s your point? Does that make Darling not a spud now?

The point is, you're saying the GF showed him up to be a front runner, even though he was one their best players.

I know we're all upset, so maybe take a Bex and have a lie down.

 

[dan78]

Absolutely gutted by this trade.
Club has NFI.
Every club is laughing at us now.

 

[wce_all_da_way]

It's a sad feeling losing complete hope in all aspects of the club.

 

[KBLT]