List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[ToastieBoy18]

Not exactly ground breaking news, but have it on good word that Jamaine Jones

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Jamaine Jones

Age

26

Ht

180cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

4.2

3star

M

2.1

2star

T

3.8

5star

MG

159.6

3star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

4.0

5star

MG

196.5

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.2

5star

MG

166.0

3star

has signed with South Fremantle. Expect that his delisting along with others will be announced before the BnF on Thursday night.

 

[WCE_Phill]

I 100% want the Hawks F1

They were on some awesome run but will definitely have a slide next year

 

[bzparkes]

Not exactly ground breaking news, but have it on good word that Jamaine Jones has signed with South Fremantle. Expect that his delisting along with others will be announced before the BnF on Thursday night.

Surely they announce it after? I don't recall us delisting players before BnFs, unless it was a Ryan Burrows scenario.

 

[Barrybran]

I 100% want the Hawks F1

They were on some awesome run but will definitely have a slide next year

Why? They'll have a harder fixture but they'll also have a better team. Hawthorn with Barrass should be looking at a top 4 finish.

 

[WCE_18]

GWV into the GF vs Sandringham by 4 points. For Oakleigh Jagga with another 32 touches will surely go pick 1. FOS 20 possessions, 2 goals and 8 i50s. Great hands with the ball and in the air but still looks a gallop short with match awareness and pace.

for the Rebels Jack Ough 21 touches and would be a perfect pick if we can get pick 40 for Darling and salary. Still fuming we traded our 3R, could have had Freijah and probably Ough as big bodied goal kicking wingman. Jonty Faull fantastic hands and a good kick with 5 goals hopefully pushing into top 12 calculations.

Bit of a sliding doors moment, but I do wonder whether we would have taken Hall last year if we had traded in Dev.

Then like you say we would select freijah and have kept our F3 instead of being spooked by Essendon

 

[eaglevision]

Bit of a sliding doors moment, but I do wonder whether we would have taken Hall last year if we had traded in Dev.

Then like you say we would select freijah and have kept our F3 instead of being spooked by Essendon

I bloody hope not but you may well be right. Mind you glass half full we may have paid our F2 (pick 23) for Dev and if it wasn’t that it would have been our F3 anyway. Have it on good authority that briztoon dropped a prawn into the soup of Dev’s missus at the Lions B&F, altering the course of history forever.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Definitely seemed like we wet the ol pantaloons on draft night getting Hall IMO.

Maybe with Cooper Simpson getting picked a couple selections earlier it threw a spanner into the works for us and we panicked.

Either way, fair price to pay. Every decent pick counts these days with packaging and sliding up the draft order. Particularly when you're shit and down the bottom end of the ladder, like we are.

 

[eaglevision]

Definitely seemed like wet wet the ol pantaloons on draft night getting Hall IMO.

Maybe with Cooper Simpson getting picked a couple selections earlier it threw a spanner into the works for us and we panicked.

Either way, fair price to pay. Every decent pick counts these days with packaging and sliding up the draft order. Particularly when you're shit and down the bottom end of the ladder, like we are.

Shitting the bed of the highest order. Freijah last year and Ough (who only turns 18 in December and is 194cm) at 41 this year. If Ough gets anywhere near his potential our wings would have been sorted for next dozen years.

 

[BartBart]

JW Medal Thursday night for those whining about delistings... not long now.

 

[Elite Pete]

Why.

Hawks F1 could be 18.
Our F2 could be 19

So Barrass for 13 is the deal basically! **** that.

Why do people on here insist that something has go back as part of the deal.

They want him, come pay up.



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Facts are if you want the Hawks two first, something will go back. Most likely F2.

While it could be pick 18, it could very well be pick 5 to 10. Just look at Melbourne and the Pies this year. Teams are known to take a leap and then crash back down the year after.

We also have said multiple times we want more early picks so we do want to sell as well.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Where do I sign?

The Barrass deal will unequivocally include pick 13, the question is what else. Most likely options would seem:

HAW F1 with our F2 going back
One of Ward, Serong, Reeves or Hustwaite
Pick 30
F2

I’d love Cam MacKenzie or to send back our F3 for their F1, but that would be the most impressive bit of trading our club has done since the GCS fleecing.

I suggest pick 9 for Barrass would have sealed it with nothing else

The problem is that pick has slid 4 places

Therefore their F1 with our F2 going back would be like a slide of 4 places. Seems fair!

 

[BartBart]

The Adelaide board seems convinced we’re all over Draper.

Adelaide wants Drapes to match their Curtin?

I'll see myself out...

 

[OldBlueEagle]

Adelaide wants Drapes to match their Curtin?

I'll see myself out...

That is the best post in last 3 weeks. Gold

 

[Keys]

Not exactly ground breaking news, but have it on good word that Jamaine Jones has signed with South Fremantle. Expect that his delisting along with others will be announced before the BnF on Thursday night.

Had hoped we might have been able to get Jones to hang around to play for the Beagles

Probably mates with Winder though so joining him at South Freo. Also Kelly’s old club

No surprise he’s being moved on - had some good attributes but disposal was too erratic and couldn’t nail down a position after 4 years on the list.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Probably been discussed 783 times already but I wonder what Liam Reedy's contract situation is. Dominating the WAFL is one thing but he's monstering guys week in week out.

Imagine the Reidy2Reid2Reid combination.

 

[Mulldogg]

Had hoped we might have been able to get Jones to hang around to play for the Beagles

Probably mates with Winder though so joining him at South Freo. Also Kelly’s old club

No surprise he’s being moved on - had some good attributes but disposal was too erratic and couldn’t nail down a position after 4 years on the list.

Anthony Van Der Wielen manages both TK and Jones. He’s heavily involved with Souths which is where he draws almost all of his client base from.

So the likelihood of this being correct appears high.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Why.

Hawks F1 could be 18.
Our F2 could be 19

So Barrass for 13 is the deal basically! **** that.

Why do people on here insist that something has go back as part of the deal.

They want him, come pay up.



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Absolute worst case scenario is Hawks flag and we win the spoon, making the picks 18 (now ours) and 19 (now belonging to Hawthorn).

Except if we win the spoon next year, we’ll almost certainly get some assistance, perhaps in line with North’s myriad of End of First round but must be traded picks.

So we’ve jumped the queue and now own 18, 19 (pp), 20 (pp), pushing Hawks pick out to 21.

Let’s say there’s some Band 2 compo somewhere. Well slot that in, now the Hawks pick is 22.

God forbid North get another handout slotting it back even further.

Or we’re not priority pick worthy, meaning our pick is less likely to be 19 and more likely to be in the low 20s. So it’s a decent upgrade again.

The gap from 18 to 19 is one thing, but the gap from first to second round is huge when it comes to compos and any priority picks. And this is all in a scenario where we win the spoon and they win the flag.

Even if they come fourth and we come third from bottom again, that’s 15 to 21. God forbid they have an unexpected slide and it winds up being a 10+ pick upgrade.

13 + F1 for Barrass and F2 is a good deal, it’s a fair deal and, if we get it, it’s the deal that will complete the heavy drafting phase of the rebuild.

 

[MeltMan]

Imagine the Reidy2Reid2Reid combination.

Then we just need a Riley. Could **** any midfield oppo.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Y'all need Jesus.

 

[maverick001]

Not convinced North will go for Trainor, unless they plan on moving Comben forward.

For likely they go for Smillie, since the Will Phillips experiment seems to have failed and they need a much bigger body in there than they currently have.

If they want a bigger body they'll go Langford I reckon
Which is who I want. Or draper

 

[maverick001]

GWV into the GF vs Sandringham by 4 points. For Oakleigh Jagga with another 32 touches will surely go pick 1. FOS 20 possessions, 2 goals and 8 i50s. Great hands with the ball and in the air but still looks a gallop short with match awareness and pace.

for the Rebels Jack Ough 21 touches and would be a perfect pick if we can get pick 40 for Darling and salary. Still fuming we traded our 3R, could have had Freijah and probably Ough as big bodied goal kicking wingman. Jonty Faull fantastic hands and a good kick with 5 goals hopefully pushing into top 12 calculations.

Is Ough a good runner or fast?
Someone said yesterday there was a WA winger (aside from davis) who might be good late. Boxhall or Artemis I think. Thoughts on them?

 

[maverick001]

Would you send our F2 back for Cam MacKenzie? ie. 13 + MacKenzie for Barrass + F2.

In a heartbeat but there's not a snowflake's chance in hell Hawks do that.
Would be list suicide on their behalf. Mackenzie holds significant value & if he was on the market right now it would unquestionably take a top 10 pick.

 

[Bacchus]

Did not know this. Thought he was ok, obviously not.

Where have you been?

 

[happy_eagle]

Where have you been?

Obviously not following football as closely as I used to lol

I honestly thought he was injured

 

[Bacchus]

I 100% want the Hawks F1

They were on some awesome run but will definitely have a slide next year

But no F2 back which largely negates it.

There is a very strong likelihood we will be bottom 4 and a strong likelihood Hawthorn will be top 8 if not in the last 4.

Why are you so certain about a Hawthorn slide in 2025?