List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[RanaNaved]

GWS also tried him as a key forward and cut their losses after one year with him.

That speaks volumes

Exactly

 

[THE A5]

Something to make some supporters REALLY happy....

"While foxfooty.com.au understands Josh Rotham looks highly unlikely to receive an extension after 72 games across six seasons at the club."

**** this club

 

[WCEConnor23]

Darling's a good signing for North. Play him deep forward he will do a lot of the physical work and take a lot of pressure of Larkey. He's still got excellent forward craft and is a good ruckman in the F50.

He will also be a great mentor for their young forward's, him and JK were on another level at working together back in the day.

 

[maverick001]

Wonder what his career would have been like if we'd bulked him up and just played him as a key forward.

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So he scored 92 goals in 20 netball games ?

 

[random260]

With all this talk of Baker downgrading pick 3.

Let's us do the same.

Pick 2 + Darling for Pick 3 + Darling + Hawks Pick 30.

Norf don't need to use picks we win

 

[shooshka]

Not that keen on a future fourth. Much prefer a 2024 R4 which is currently 58.

Gunston was seen as cooked 2 years ago and he had half a decent season at Brisbane (17 games) and was serviceable for the Hawks this year (18 games). Sometimes it just needs a new club and a specific role.

Darling has proven to be physically durable having played over 20 games each year for the last 4. I sense we have not understood the impact of him and JK as a tandem and then with Oscar not on the park for big chunks of the year and limited inside 50's, his output has suffered.

If it is a F4, I would like to see added to it Norf and us swapping R3 - where we give up F3 and get Norf's R3 this year which is currently 40. Surely Norf do not need high volumes of yuff this year!!

Totally depends on how much salary we pay IMO.

Nothing (or limited, say $100k max for next year) we get a token pick.

If we pay half, then maybe a decent ish upgrade (59-40 or so).

If we pay most, then 40 on its own

We will find away to meet the cap floor… just depends how much we pay players not on our list as to how much we need to frontload and/or can slightly over pay some FA’s


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[TOA.]

Totally depends on how much salary we pay IMO.

Nothing (or limited, say $100k max for next year) we get a token pick.

If we pay half, then maybe a decent ish upgrade (59-40 or so).

If we pay most, then 40 on its own

We will find away to meet the cap floor… just depends how much we pay players not on our list as to how much we need to frontload and/or can slightly over pay some FA’s


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Issue is that the Roos will have the same salary cap space as us. Like us, they would prefer pick 40 to more space.

 

[Ghossein]

Pick 2 + Darling for Pick 3 + Darling + Hawks Pick 30.

Ive read this 8 times and i still dont get it

 

[Dark Sharks]

People need to get over Brander. Sometimes first round picks don't work out. It's not an exact science, no one can tell the future. Move on.

Quite often lately.

Venables - Dead (but was the real winner in the end.... IF you know what I mean)
Brander - Gone
Chesser - Ugh
Hewett - love him, but I've got no faith.


Ginbey projects as a solid selection at least. Thank god for that. Pick split would've looked atrocious if he wasn't.

 

[lloydbraun]

Ive read this 8 times and i still dont get it

It's very simple.

We trade Pick 2 + Darling to North Melbourne

In return we receive from North pick 3 + Darling immediately traded back to WCE + Hawks Pick 30

 

[Doashuey]

Ive read this 8 times and i still dont get it

After the 2nd reading you should have looked at the poster to realise that the additional 6 readings would be futile.

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Pick 2 + Darling for Pick 3 + Darling + Hawks Pick 30.

If this makes any sense at all to anyone…

 

[Boohemian]

You know, if we're in the process of renegotiating contracts with our two key forwards, the best strategy is to throw in some sweeteners like offering the support and comfort of a free brassiere.

 

[Elite Pete]

It's very simple.

We trade Pick 2 + Darling to North Melbourne

In return we receive from North pick 3 + Darling immediately traded back to WCE + Hawks Pick 30

Eagles refresh their list but also Darling then gets to play his 300th for the Eagles.

 

[Nuke Fremantle]

Quite often lately.

Venables - Dead (but was the real winner in the end.... IF you know what I mean)
Brander - Gone
Chesser - Ugh
Hewett - love him, but I've got no faith.


Ginbey projects as a solid selection at least. Thank god for that. Pick split would've looked atrocious if he wasn't.

Hewett is Exhibit A in the case for mandated medical screenings of draftees. It's a nonsense that its apparently not allowed.

I'd agree Ginbey is "solid" provided your definition of solid is Duggan v2.0.

 

[Peptide Pig]

I get the feeling the Darling trade will be a lot less than we expect.

He'll be traded for a token pick (pick 58) and us possibly picking up part of his salary as well.

58 is reasonable if we are being unbiased, which is rare from some of the recent posts I have read.

I can’t imagine NM have any salary cap pressure given their list is no good, but if they wanted us to pay his salary then maybe we could push for JD + 59 for 40 + 64 or similar.

More likely just a late pick as you mentioned.

 

[kane249]

You know, if we're in the process of renegotiating contracts with our two key forwards, the best strategy is to throw in some sweeteners like offering the support and comfort of a free brassiere.

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Worked for Tom Hawkins

 

[Jukes]

I feel like whatever pick we get for Darling will be on traded to get Dev…

 

[kfad05]

Just one genuine out an out WC mockery pisstake in my lifetime and I'll die a happy man.

Ian Downsborough being picked up as a free agent by Port, and us getting the pre draft pick for Michael Gardiner was pretty good.

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[Elite Pete]

I feel like whatever pick we get for Darling will be on traded to get Dev…

Surely no one can complain about that…… along with an extra salary cap space it creates. Still a little weird no genuine connect. Just speculation due to last year.

Might be off the cards when Garcia and Peatling tell their clubs they want to be an Eagle in 2025 in the next couple of days.

 

[Goroyals22]

salt and pepper?

Here are the calamari twins….

Admiral Akbar is their grandfather



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[Ghossein]

trade idea:

Pick 7 and Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

to Geelong for Pick 2 and Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

and Essendon's F1

 

[Ghossein]

William Saliba to the Boston Celtics in exchange for Max Verstappen and St Kilda's 2nd round rookie selection

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I feel like whatever pick we get for Darling will be on traded to get Dev…

That feels like it’d be a win?

 

[mat11]

58 for darling isn't too bad. GC, Carlton and Brisbane are going to burn through at least a dozen picks bidding on their academy/Fson's so that 58 could still come back to mid 40s. I mean 58 or 40 from North is kinda the same pick anyway. What wouldn't be good is if it's an f3 or f4 that'd suck we want picks in this years draft.