List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[eaglevision]

Would be pick 6 + 26 n all reality. Would do it either way

In such a scenario id angle for Hawks F1st + 30 which leaves us with

Pick 3, 6, 23, 26, 30 and 59

5 picks before 30 and then 59 on Champion works for me

Why not go for pick 13 and F2 in that scenario? Or better yet 13 and 30?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Why not go for pick 13 and F2 in that scenario? Or better yet 13 and 30?

Would want a first rounder next year of some sort still. Not a huge fan of exiting a top 20 of a draft. 6 pickls is enough for 1 draft also. We still need 2 mature bodies for example . Taking 7 picks just leads us down the path of delisting Dom Sheed which I think is a bad idea as we need someone in the WAFL to lead the way still

 

[CountryLad]

Hypothetically speaking let’s say we put our F1 on the table for GCS because we want a bigger presence in this draft. Would posters be happy with 6 and 20 coming back from the Suns?

Just personally mate I’d be quite happy to hang onto our F1 unless it was required for a Warner trade.

The reason is simply that you can only realistically play so much youth at one time. For the majority of players (not Harley) they need to serve an apprenticeship of sorts. We have plenty of kids to get games into, there’s no real rush to sell ourselves out of what’s likely another top 3 pick to bring in even more youth.

Draft about 5 kids this year onto our main list, we will hopefully have a 50% strike rate and then do the same again next year. Over 5-6 years you slowly build the base that’s required when going the rebuild path like we have been forced to.

 

[eaglevision]

Just personally mate I’d be quite happy to hang onto our F1 unless it was required for a Warner trade.

The reason is simply that you can only realistically play so much youth at one time. For the majority of players (not Harley) they need to serve an apprenticeship of sorts. We have plenty of kids to get games into, there’s no real rush to sell ourselves out of what’s likely another top 3 pick to bring in even more youth.

Draft about 5 kids this year onto our main list, we will hopefully have a 50% strike rate and then do the same again next year. Over 5-6 years you slowly build the base that’s required when going the rebuild path like we have been forced to.

Good point although I do think 3,6,13,20,23 and Champion would be fine from a development point of view. Perhaps we could look to trade 20 or 23 into next year for a F1 on draft night and get the best of both worlds.

 

[Mattman93]

Continuing my schtick of under-estimated GWV players we should draft, I said this a while back (lay-scout cred in order) but why the hell is Ollie Hannaford continually spoken of as a late-ish pick?

Looks second round at the very worst to me.

 

[eaglevision]

Continuing my schtick of under-estimated GWV players we should draft, I said this a while back (lay-scout cred in order) but why the hell is Ollie Hannaford continually spoken of as a late-ish pick?

Looks second round at the very worst to me.

Would be very surprised if he doesn’t go top 30 after his finish to the season.

 

[Mattman93]

Would be very surprised if he doesn’t go top 30 after his finish to the season.

Yeah, will push first round I reckon. To my eye he looks like he'll test very, very well in the relevant athletic markers too. There'd be a good case for preferring him to Berry.

 

[eaglevision]

Yeah, will push first round I reckon. To my eye he looks like he'll test very, very well in the relevant athletic markers too. There'd be a good case for preferring him to Berry.

I think he’d be lucky to push Berry with his runs on the board but you’re right will be very interesting to see how they both test head to head. If he hits it out of the park I agree late 1R is a definite possibility.

 

[Balls In]

Geelong delisting 7 players less than a week after missing a grand final by a whisker. That's how they do it.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Having read an interview with Chad Warner

1

Chad Warner

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

I don’t think he plans on going anywhere.
He’s talking to Swans recruiting staff about his two youngest brothers. He wants them in Sydney to play with him. Does that sound like somebody planning on leaving??

 

[TY24]

I mean I definitely wouldn’t say no

 

[CountryLad]

Good point although I do think 3,6,13,20,23 and Champion would be fine from a development point of view. Perhaps we could look to trade 20 or 23 into next year for a F1 on draft night and get the best of both worlds.

The only thing I’d say on that is that with picks 3,6 & 13, there would be an expectation that they play AFL.

We still need to get games into Long, Hall, Johnston, J. Williams, A Reid, Dewar Bazzo, Hewett and dare I say it Chesser. That’s nine players that are all at 0-30 games of experience before we start on the 2024 crop.

Of that group the pressure is going to come on Bazzo and the two Fwds in Williams and Reid. This is due to both Barrass and Darling moving on. If injury hits they now become important pieces.

I think it’s fair to say the likes of Hough, Ginbey, H Edwards and H Reid are all at the end of there apprenticeships and would be expected to perform well at AFL level.
.

 

[Bender_]

I mean I definitely wouldn’t say no

The whole making stuff up and trying to pass it off as having insider knowledge is getting pretty f*cken tiresome, from Schofield and the majority of the AFL media.

 

[TY24]

The whole making stuff up and trying to pass it off as having insider knowledge is getting pretty f*cken tiresome, from Schofield and the majority of the AFL media.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Schoey called the Barrass and Darling trades long before they became official. He’s been very adamant about King being our coach for a while too.

If King gets named coach then that’ll be 3/3 for him so far this offseason.

 

[Elite Pete]

Just personally mate I’d be quite happy to hang onto our F1 unless it was required for a Warner trade.

The reason is simply that you can only realistically play so much youth at one time. For the majority of players (not Harley) they need to serve an apprenticeship of sorts. We have plenty of kids to get games into, there’s no real rush to sell ourselves out of what’s likely another top 3 pick to bring in even more youth.

Draft about 5 kids this year onto our main list, we will hopefully have a 50% strike rate and then do the same again next year. Over 5-6 years you slowly build the base that’s required when going the rebuild path like we have been forced to.

Yeah holding our F1 unless it’s for Warner.

Imo Sharp looks a class above anyone in this draft incase we finish bottom. Probably 2nd or 3rd bottom and Duursma looks perfect for us too and has the extra bonus of currently being our best young players brother in law.

Just cut the dead weight and throw some darts in the rookie and late picks this year along with our current pick.

Hawks F1 for GCs pick 12 and tag an Atkins in a salary dump is all that is needed

 

[squashface]

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Schoey called the Barrass and Darling trades long before they became official. He’s been very adamant about King being our coach for a while too.

If King gets named coach then that’ll be 3/3 for him so far this offseason.

Schoey is friends with current Eagles players like Barrass and Darling so it makes sense that he would have the correct info about their movements.

He has no info about our coach appointment or drafting/trading as his only sources (current Eagles players) don't have that info either.

 

[TY24]

Schoey is friends with current Eagles players like Barrass and Darling so it makes sense that he would have the correct info about their movements.

He has no info about our coach appointment or drafting/trading as his only sources (current Eagles players) don't have that info either.

I know, I never said he did.

I’ve been saying for a while that I believe Mr Pyke and the panel are the only ones with any real idea about the coaching selection.

The video is just food for thought. The idea of Harley and Chad playing together is making me feel things.

 

[CountryLad]

Yeah holding our F1 unless it’s for Warner.

Imo Sharp looks a class above anyone in this draft incase we finish bottom. Probably 2nd or 3rd bottom and Duursma looks perfect for us too and has the extra bonus of currently being our best young players brother in law.

Just cut the dead weight and throw some darts in the rookie and late picks this year along with our current pick.

Hawks F1 for GCs pick 12 and tag an Atkins in a salary dump is all that is needed

The top 5-10 next year will be just as good as this. Most years top 10’s are good so don’t trade out of those positions unless it’s necessary such as a Warner deal.

Clubs may pay overs to get to the likes of Sharp or Louis Emmett or you just take the best kid. There’s a good bunch of WA boys coming too so there’s no rush to trade out of next year unless it’s for Warner.

 

[Elite Pete]

I know, I never said he did.

I’ve been saying for a while that I believe Mr Pyke and the panel are the only ones with any real idea about the coaching selection.

The video is just food for thought. The idea of Harley and Chad playing together is making me feel things.

Damien Barrett went with that thought last Friday too in his afl article. Let’s hope Don’s and Chads connection is strong

 

[RanaNaved]

I know, I never said he did.

I’ve been saying for a while that I believe Mr Pyke and the panel are the only ones with any real idea about the coaching selection.

The video is just food for thought. The idea of Harley and Chad playing together is making me feel things.

Is it an erection you are feeling?

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Good point although I do think 3,6,13,20,23 and Champion would be fine from a development point of view. Perhaps we could look to trade 20 or 23 into next year for a F1 on draft night and get the best of both worlds.

Don't see the point in trading our future 1st unless its a big fish . We should already have 2 x 1st rounders this draft and by the look of it you could pick up a gun in the 2nd or 3rd rounds .

We also have so many young players wanting games its better to spread out our talent intake over many years .

I would rather get extra 2nd and 3rd rounders at lower cost .

 

[RanaNaved]

Can someone who has watched more of the 2025 draft class than me name some of the more highly rated ones please

 

[ToastieBoy18]

Damien Barrett went with that thought last Friday too in his afl article. Let’s hope Don’s and Chads connection is strong

I wrote in early Feb this year on this thread, but Don and Chad have a really good relationship.

They met twice last off season, one at the Warner’s family home and one more informally, playing golf. At the time, my info was that Chad was a real strong chance to join West Coast, whether that be at the end of this season or more likely at the end of next.

I personally don’t think much has changed, but that is just my instinct. If he wants more success and to come home, then Freo would be the favourite, but I don’t think they will compete with what we are offering him money wise.

 

[THE A5]

Chad must really miss home if he is entertaining the idea of coming home. Swans seriously look like they’ll be in this form for a while and plus their culture is one of the best going around. Huge get for us if we can pull it off

 

[Bender_]

I personally don’t think much has changed, but that is just my instinct. If he wants more success and to come home, then Freo would be the favourite, but I don’t think they will compete with what we are offering him money wise.