List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Convocation]

I like Owies but does he fill a need?

We have Long and Brockman coming back from injury/drama next year, plus Cripps (still), Ryan, Dewar and all the talls.

I’d be focusing on midfield targets, and some replacement depth for Barrass, and maybe a ruck, before I looked at forwards.

Doesn’t change your points above which I agree with, but I have high hopes Noah Long comes back and eventually moves into a midfield role and turns into a Lachie Neale type

 

[Jukes]

I like Owies but does he fill a need?

We have Long and Brockman coming back from injury/drama next year, plus Cripps (still), Ryan, Dewar and all the talls.

I’d be focusing on midfield targets, and some replacement depth for Barrass, and maybe a ruck, before I looked at forwards.

Regardless of position, we could do a lot worse than someone who is a good age, good durability, proven track record (this year) and seems like a “culture” guy.

You’d think he won’t cost us much at all as they need to get rid of him to manage their salary cap. Further to this, given how this has played out, I’m sure he’ll be happy to stick his middle finger at them by going preseason draft (unlike old mate Baker).

 

[Goroyals22]

Owies isn’t the type of player I would want to spend draft capital on given where we are at.

Take picks to the draft or trade for midfield depth.

He is out of contract, he can walk to the psd


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[Dark Sharks]

Can't say i'm particularly keen on Owies, who we made look like Stephen Milne

Stephen Milne

Age

44

Ht

176cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

9.1

4star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

2.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.4

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

1.4

5star

the last time we played.


Draper can piss off. Enough of this shit. I say we call his bluff and draft him anyway.

Three drafts in a row now we've had players do this crap we have to adjust our draft board for.

 

[THE A5]

Owies at the right price would be a good get. Kicked 30 odd and is in the age bracket we need. Cripps nearly done leaving with ryan as the only senior small. Long coming back via a knee injury and dewar only promise at this stage. I honestly think Brockman is tracking in that SPS direction

 

[THE A5]

Can't say i'm particularly keen on Owies, who we made look like Stephen Milne the last time we played.


Draper can piss off. Enough of this shit. I say we call his bluff and draft him anyway.

Three drafts in a row now we've had players do this crap we have to adjust our draft board for.

Think he’ll change his attitude when Big Harls carrys him on his back

 

[bzparkes]

Good lord.

Half a dozen pages of absolute bedwetting echo chamber over;

• A trade we haven't done yet
• Which includes a pick we don't have
• Stemming from a trade that is also still yet to happen.

This is the worst trade melt, in the history of trade melts, maybe ever.

 

[Bender_]

The thought of Owies in our side makes me want to puke. I could've kicked 25 goals in Carlton's forward line this year.

 

[Bacchus]

I like Owies but does he fill a need?

We have Long and Brockman coming back from injury/drama next year, plus Cripps (still), Ryan, Dewar and all the talls.

I’d be focusing on midfield targets, and some replacement depth for Barrass, and maybe a ruck, before I looked at forwards.

Brockman hasn’t kicked a goal for us yet, Long doesn’t kick many and Ryan’s output is down. Next year may be Cripps’ last, Dewar is kicking a goal or two a game although he may be more useful further upfield.

Brockman, Long, Ryan and Dewar seem to being used as part time midfielders so I think there could be a spot for Owies as a dedicated forward pocket who is a consistent goal kicker. Depends on cost of course like everything and as you say we have areas of more pressing need.

 

[THE A5]

Whats brockmans contract like? If he’s out of contract he really needs that “breakout” season after what he dished up this year and after the incident

 

[Keys]

Brockman hasn’t kicked a goal for us yet, Long doesn’t kick many and Ryan’s output is down. Next year may be Cripps’ last, Dewar is kicking a goal or two a game although he may be more useful further upfield.

Brockman, Long, Ryan and Dewar seem to being used as part time midfielders so I think there could be a spot for Owies as a dedicated forward pocket who is a consistent goal kicker. Depends on cost of course like everything and as you say we have areas of more pressing need.

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Broadly agree with your post though

 

[Keys]

Whats brockmans contract like? If he’s out of contract he really needs that “breakout” season after what he dished up this year and after the incident

Footywire has him listed as out of contract next year after previously showing him uncontracted at the end of this year

Truth is, he signed on a 3 year deal when joining last year which ends in 2026

 

[Corn69]

Regarding Draper, while I like him as a prospect, Matt Clarke pretty much eluded to pick 3 being a Victorian.

Specifically mentioned 'Victorian' talent when talking about those in consideration for pick 3.

Don't be surprised if we pick either one of Langford, FOS, Jagga or Smillie at 3.

Draper is very unlikely at this stage.

 

[CountryLad]

I like Owies but does he fill a need?

We have Long and Brockman coming back from injury/drama next year, plus Cripps (still), Ryan, Dewar and all the talls.

I’d be focusing on midfield targets, and some replacement depth for Barrass, and maybe a ruck, before I looked at forwards.

Most sides are playing 3-4 of these types through there fwd line every week and some 5 on occasions. We were the only club trying to play 4 tall fwds. Pretty much summed up our list position and game plans of late. We are absolutely under done in this position but like the rest of our list it’s a mess. Compare that group to the fwd lines some of the finalists are rolling out.

Cripps well past his prime and in the twilight of his career. Has the odd good game still with a few very average to poor ones in between.

Ryan is now Ryan2.0, he’s not the Ryan we saw pre hamstring issues. His game is a long way off the lofty heights of his AA year.

Brockman looks a bust. Can’t get his personal life right and can’t get a kick either. Tough position for a professional footballer.

Petrucelle, lol played like 6 good games in 90 odd.

Long is 20 games in and we still aren’t sure how good he will actually be. Hopefully he’s one we can bank on for the future.

Dewar much the same and probably less likely than Long to make it but there’s always hope i guess.

So especially if there’s an injury or two to this group who are the 3-4 quality players we will have on the field from 2025-27 under a new coach that wont be foolish enough to try and play 4 talls? It looks bloody thin when Cripps retires and there’s an injury or two. Who are the 20+ goal kickers a year that can also lay defensive pressure?

Yes we need better mids and yes we need better defenders but guess what we also need better fwds, particularly of this type.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

Not sure on what planet we offered Dev Robertson 4 years but Riley Garcia 2.

Muppets have no idea

He got offered 2 by dogs ya muppet. We don't know how many he has been offered by West coast

 

[twce13]

The thought of Owies in our side makes me want to puke. I could've kicked 25 goals in Carlton's forward line this year.

Agreed I don't reckon that many have watched him play, he was a benefactor of some a great tall fwd line and lack of alternatives as a small fwd . The fact Carlton aren't fussed to lose him says it all. He is dead set avg and highly prone to brain fades. Hard pass for me.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

He got offered 2 by dogs ya muppet. We don't know how many he has been offered by West coast

We offered 2 as well…. yes we are that dumb

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

He is out of contract, he can walk to the psd


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Where North and Richmond will have picks ahead of us?

 

[BartBart]

The thought of Owies in our side makes me want to puke. I could've kicked 25 goals in Carlton's forward line this year.

If he gets hurt, does he say his own name?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Agreed I don't reckon that many have watched him play, he was a benefactor of some a great tall fwd line and lack of alternatives as a small fwd . The fact Carlton aren't fussed to lose him says it all. He is dead set avg and highly prone to brain fades. Hard pass for me.

The potential premiers in Brisbane are also talking to him so they obviously see a role for him there

 

[random260]

Want some melts? Our boy Sid is understood to prefer a move to a big Vic team…..

Big? Close enough we are huge norf small.

Welcome to wce I'm jumping with happiness.

It's clear he want to be a wce player. Burn it all down if we pass on him

 

[Peptide Pig]

Good lord.

Half a dozen pages of absolute bedwetting echo chamber over;

• A trade we haven't done yet
• Which includes a pick we don't have
• Stemming from a trade that is also still yet to happen.

This is the worst trade melt, in the history of trade melts, maybe ever.

Meh Eagles fans have a right to be pessimistic tbh. A good pre melt softens the blow.

Plus the only thing more annoying is people melting over people melting.

Melting over melting…

 

[Wooshaaaa]

He got offered 2 by dogs ya muppet. We don't know how many he has been offered by West coast

Yes we do. We've offered 2 for Garcia as well.

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[squashface]

Owies at the right price would be a good get. Kicked 30 odd and is in the age bracket we need. Cripps nearly done leaving with ryan as the only senior small. Long coming back via a knee injury and dewar only promise at this stage. I honestly think Brockman is tracking in that SPS direction

Sub a few names around and this exact post could have been written about our boy Zac Langdon a few years ago.

 

[eaglevision]

Big? Close enough we are huge norf small.

Welcome to wce I'm jumping with happiness.

It's clear he want to be a wce player. Burn it all down if we pass on him

I feel you’re choosing to ignore some critical aspects of this article…