List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Cuzz09]

He's definitely gone, listen to his speech from the awards night.

I meant if they can't agree on a trade for Hawks

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[Slash136]

Getting Baker this year makes no sense from a club perspective. He is a free agent next year and we could have picked him up then at 0 cost to our draft capital. These are the kind of decisions that you never see Geelong make, they would tell baker to wait or nor worry about it. I get that Baker wants to come this year, but to be successful the needs of the club should come over the wants of the individual.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I meant if they can't agree on a trade for Hawks

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Swans might be desperate enough Barass + 23 for Warner. Get it done.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Getting Baker this year makes no sense from a club perspective. He is a free agent next year and we could have picked him up then at 0 cost to our draft capital. These are the kind of decisions that you never see Geelong make, they would tell baker to wait or nor worry about it. I get that Baker wants to come this year, but to be successful the needs of the club should come over the wants of the individual.

Its the kind of list move you do if you are competing for a flag and believe the next season is massively important

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

AFL.com.au running with the pick 13 for Baker move too...

 

[WCErevival]

Pick 13 for Baker + Pick 6

 

[kerrazy]

Its insane how there's no one in the media mentioning how west coast are in rebuild mode and that they can't afford to give up 13.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Clay Hall if we are honest. Its beginning to look like a absolute bizarre pickup. We gave up on the guy like 2 weeks into his career

He might still be worthy of being a full time mid, but not next year. Maybe the year after. You all expecting these 18/19yo mids to be ready made full time mids like Harley, is delusional.


Full time in the midfield since drafted as top 10 pick

2020 draft
Nil

2021 draft
Daicos
Horn Francis

Only in the last yr
Ward, Rachelle, callaghan

2022 draft
Ashcroft
Wardlaw

Sheezel this yr.

2023 draft
Reid



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[HoneyBadger35]

Getting Baker this year makes no sense from a club perspective. He is a free agent next year and we could have picked him up then at 0 cost to our draft capital. These are the kind of decisions that you never see Geelong make, they would tell baker to wait or nor worry about it. I get that Baker wants to come this year, but to be successful the needs of the club should come over the wants of the individual.

But he’s not a free agent, he’s out of contract now as you say. So we’d be relying on him signing a one year deal with Richmond, which is already unlikely enough even if you ignore that they’d never want to keep him on as a one year rental knowing he’s not in their mid term plans. Then he walks for nothing rather than getting them some assets back now, so even less reason for the Tigers to help him reach FA.

There’s a 0% chance we could just wait a year and get him as a FA.

 

[The Gtrain]

Looks like Wikipedia is already updated with facts.. nice premiership

Liam Baker - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Eastern Rangers]

If baker is worth 13 imagine what Harley would net us if he ever requested a trade


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All of the Tassie Devils picks.

 

[CountryLad]

He might still be worthy of being a full time mid, but not next year. Maybe the year after. You all expecting these 18/19yo mids to be ready made full time mids like Harley, is delusional.


Full time in the midfield since drafted as top 10 pick

2020 draft
Nil

2021 draft
Daicos
Horn Francis

Only in the last yr
Ward, Rachelle, callaghan

2022 draft
Ashcroft
Wardlaw

Sheezel this yr.

2023 draft
Reid



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Don’t try and make too much sense mate he will get a head spin. I still can’t tell if he’s delusional or just a really good troll.

 

[ziad]

Its insane how there's no one in the media mentioning how west coast are in rebuild mode and that they can't afford to give up 13.

Whats more insane is how people on here swallow the media garbage as the truth.

 

[squashface]

Geez I hope we don't do anything stupid and offer up pick 3

 

[TerryFilk]

My preference would’ve been to focus solely on the draft but seeing as that isn’t happening and in all likelihood most of us will be disappointed with what we give up for Baker, we may as well go after Bolton to try and make the deal look better

Would 3,13 and 23 get us Baker, Bolton and 6?

Richmond seemingly want to pair Jagga and FOS, I think a top 3 pick greatly appeals to them more so than 9 and 16 from Fremantle.

Again, I’d prefer the draft but getting better immediately with Baker and Bolton + still adding a top end mid or Travaglia / Lindsay at 6 is somewhat appealing.

Could still trade the Hawks F1 to get back into this years draft as well assuming we net that.

 

[new breed]

Trade Week will be interesting again especially for WC and always for Freo.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Pick 13 "starting point" sounds like Eagles will offer pick 13 but Richmond are expected to want more.

 

[kerrazy]

This has all literally played into the tigers hands exactly how they wanted.

Sign Mcqualter
Bring over Graham and Baker
Media pushing for 13
Bolton not caring about which club, causing a bidding war over him

**** off Richmond.

 

[Slash136]

But he’s not a free agent, he’s out of contract now as you say. So we’d be relying on him signing a one year deal with Richmond, which is already unlikely enough even if you ignore that they’d never want to keep him on as a one year rental knowing he’s not in their mid term plans. Then he walks for nothing rather than getting them some assets back now, so even less reason for the Tigers to help him reach FA.

There’s a 0% chance we could just wait a year and get him as a FA.

Exactly my point. The club should not be the one bending. Richmond don't want him on a one year deal he can go to the pre season draft. If Baker doesn't want to do it then we move on without him. We need our draft capital more than Baker.

We could have worked it next year so Richmond got a first round compo so would have worked for them also.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Geez I hope we don't do anything stupid and offer up pick 3

Freo have a very young list profile, don’t need a bunch of kids this year, are close to contention and really need a dynamic small forward.

Oh and they have three firsts.

It simply has to be Freo, and I’ve said it before they should throw the kitchen sink because Freo with Bolton should be flag favourites.

 

[Dylan82]

The sad part is its a chance of being true though. In all reality its kind of my biggest melt overall with this. The fact I need to consider it as a possibility is sad

This.

We are all too familiar with the following:

• opening line in the media for trades being to the advantage of the opposing club
• hearing nothing from the Eagles to refute that
• letting that story become the consensus opinion of "fair terms"
• then seeing West Coast deal to that consensus, and pretend it yielded good value.

The confidence gained from holding on to pick 1 last year was completely eroded by what the club offered on draft night for D.Curtin.


I just hope the new team in charge has a far better handle on managing trades than those previously involved.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Trade Week will be interesting again especially for WC and always for Freo.

 

[Corn69]

In all honesty, hawks future 1st would probably get it done, that is if we get the pick with 13.

The only reason Baker would join us is if he knows Bitchmond are getting a good deal.

Ladies and gentlemen, prepare to get fu*ked in the ass by 'mini', Clarke and Richmond.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

This.

We are all too familiar with the following:

• opening line in the media for trades being to the advantage of the opposing club
• hearing nothing from the Eagles to refute that
• letting that story become the consensus opinion of "fair terms"
• then seeing West Coast deal to that consensus, and pretend it yielded good value.

The confidence gained from holding on to pick 1 last year was completely eroded by what the club offered on draft night for D.Curtin.


I just hope the new team in charge has a far better handle on managing trades than those previously involved.

Nah man, caution based on past indicators = Bedwetting.

Fingers crossed the new leadership is better than what we've endured during trade week. And draft night.

 

[CountryLad]

Having had a good think about the way the Lions went about it on the weekend with Neale and Ashcroft so clean by hand being helped by some bigger bodies in Dunkley and Berry.

If Jagga slipped to pick 3 maybe it could be a really good thing for our midfield. I’ve been concerned about his frame and whether it will be big enough for finals footy at AFL level.

He’s so clean below his knees in contested ball and distribution by hand is very good. Racks the ball up and is as close a player to Will Ashcroft as there is in the draft. (Excluding Levi who we can’t get.)

Just need some big bodies in there to help him out physically.