List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[stallon]

Geelong is an extreme outlier in their list build so not a great example.

Collingwood do something similar, theyve got Daicos in there and then a bunch of role players around him.
I think Collingwood and Geelong are who we should be trying to emulate long term

These points have all been discussed so not going to reiterate them but, you are talking perfect world stuff. An injury or two and our midfield is badly exposed. Trew, Culley and Hall (who I am hopeful on) all played games this year and were not up to it, and that’s with a far healthier list than we have had in recent years. Look at some of the good midfields and their depth and top-end are in another realm to us.

I’m with you on being optimistic on some of these fringe guys, but again perfect world one or two become decent contributors for us. But there is just as much chance they aren’t up to it. There’s a reason they can’t get a game elsewhere and aren’t highly sought after.

Probably not so relevant anymore as we have Graham and Baker coming who we know can perform at AFL level, but a guy like Dev would still be good as depth and he still has potential due to lack of AFL level midifeld exposure.

Was partly a rhetorical question as I think it’s clear that it will be a mix, but what percentage of each is the question. Baker and Graham are already looking like part of the strategy so what draft capital we retain will be a huge factor.

Again perfect world we draft well and in a few years we have another A-grader or two. But all draft picks are speculative. If we end up with a Will Phillips who doesn’t develop then we are left spinning our wheels with no progress. If we recruit well then we should definitely have the bones of a good list in a couple of years time.

Yep thats the risk, we are up against it especially with academies compromising the draft. Need to draft well or find great players in value trades

Haha that is pretty obvious. Well within your rights to be adversarial but there are some genuinely good points raised by other posters so I wouldn’t dismiss them and argue just for the sake of being contrarian. I’m all for exploring different view points though.

Probably about as close to conceding as you will give so I’ll take it! Haha

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Again, I’m not advocating for Baker. I’d actually prefer not to trade for him at all, no matter the cost, but,

It’s likely it’s 13 for Baker AND 21, a 6 pick downgrade. Posters continually leave this out and it’s frustrating. There is no talk anywhere of 13 on its own

Certain posters have a player(s) in mind at the pick and won't let go. Honestly, I think that's a perfectly balanced trade. But like you i don't care for Baker even if he makes our team better over the short term.

Ideally, we get more than Pick 13 for Barrass and then we get something back in the trade for Baker. We need to turn Barrass trade into a pick surplus to clear the bottom of the list out.

 

[Schtinker]

13 for Baker and 21

So, Barrass for Hawks F2, 21 and Baker

Don’t let that get in the way of a whinge though

Media are only mentioning Pick 13 for Barrass, no future 1st, 2nd or 3rd. I think we're all getting excited about trades/picks that haven't and probably won't happen.

 

[Gugs9]

Not that Richmond is likely to accept, but what if we tabled pick 13 and Hawks F1 for both bolton and baker? Maybe a little extra added on top to close the deal?

Depending on the TB trade, that would net us both for TB and change.

And still leave us with picks 3 and 23 this year.

Definitely worth pursuing if we can convince Bolton to come to us.

 

[Coasters7]

13 for Baker and 21

So, Barrass for Hawks F2, 21 and Baker

Don’t let that get in the way of a whinge though

That’s still a terrible return for one of our best players though no?

A solid utility who won’t be around for our next finals push (think Hunt sorts of areas), an early first, and a late second

 

[Coasters7]

Certain posters have a player(s) in mind at the pick and won't let go. Honestly, I think that's a perfectly balanced trade. But like you i don't care for Baker even if he makes our team better over the short term.

Ideally, we get more than Pick 13 for Barrass and then we get something back in the trade for Baker. We need to turn Barrass trade into a pick surplus to clear the bottom of the list out.

Best case scenario is Barrass for 13 and a second and then ontrade the second for Baker.

Leaves it at Barrass for Baker and 13 which isn’t unrealistic for all parties.

13 and F2 for a contracted Barrass
F2 for an uncontracted Baker

Looks pretty fair to me.

 

[stallon]

Not that Richmond is likely to accept, but what if we tabled pick 13 and Hawks F1 for both bolton and baker? Maybe a little extra added on top to close the deal?

Depending on the TB trade, that would net us both for TB and change.

And still leave us with picks 3 and 23 this year.

Definitely worth pursuing if we can convince Bolton to come to us.

Bolton is probably worth a little more than Barrass.

Barrass+F2 for 13+Hawks F1
trade 3+13 for 6+9
Trade 9+Hawks F1 for Bolton
Trade 23 for Baker

End result is: 3+23+F2+Barrass for Bolton+Baker+6

Barrass and 2x 2nd rounders for Bolton and Baker. We lose priority in choosing which mid we want but if the mids are all more or less even in that part of the draft then its no biggie going from 3 to 6.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

This.

We are all too familiar with the following:

• opening line in the media for trades being to the advantage of the opposing club
• hearing nothing from the Eagles to refute that
• letting that story become the consensus opinion of "fair terms"
• then seeing West Coast deal to that consensus, and pretend it yielded good value.

The confidence gained from holding on to pick 1 last year was completely eroded by what the club offered on draft night for D.Curtin.


I just hope the new team in charge has a far better handle on managing trades than those previously involved.

What was offered for Curtin? It obviously wasn’t accepted so it couldn’t have been too great, because the trade with the Crom was
11, 15 & F2 for 8 (Curtin) & 17


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[EdCurnowRules]

**** turning Tom Barrass got essentially liam baker would be a bigger blight than 2022/23

One guy wants to be here, the other guy doesn’t. It’s about the only positive that I can find

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

What was offered for Curtin? It obviously wasn’t accepted so it couldn’t have been too great, because the trade with the Crom was
11, 15 & F2 for 8 (Curtin) & 17


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We would be dreaming about what our plans are for pick 25 in this years draft instead of pick 3

 

[BartBart]

I’m putting together a crew to burn the club to the ground if we trade 13 for Baker.

I’m pleased to announce that I’m currently accepting applications. Previous arson experience desirable. Must be a self starter.

Crew must be able to work with a specific Prodigy song being played (and possibly Leftfield with John Lydon)?

 

[BartBart]

Jack Graham's highlights are pretty solid for a freebee. Far from being a spud.

How long ago were the highlights?

 

[Big_Birdy]

We would be dreaming about what our plans are for pick 25 in this years draft instead of pick 3

Actually there is a very good chance we would have Curtin on the list and be working out what to do with pick 4.

 

[Barrybran]

Not that Richmond is likely to accept, but what if we tabled pick 13 and Hawks F1 for both bolton and baker? Maybe a little extra added on top to close the deal?

Depending on the TB trade, that would net us both for TB and change.

And still leave us with picks 3 and 23 this year.

Definitely worth pursuing if we can convince Bolton to come to us.

Bolton is probably worth a little more than Barrass.

Barrass+F2 for 13+Hawks F1
trade 3+13 for 6+9
Trade 9+Hawks F1 for Bolton
Trade 23 for Baker

End result is: 3+23+F2+Barrass for Bolton+Baker+6

Barrass and 2x 2nd rounders for Bolton and Baker. We lose priority in choosing which mid we want but if the mids are all more or less even in that part of the draft then its no biggie going from 3 to 6.

We don't want Bolton. He's an icing on the cake type of player. We're still baking the cake. Please don't give this thought any oxygen.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Crew must be able to work with a specific Prodigy song being played (and possibly Leftfield with John Lydon)?

Must have full bladder to extinguish the remaining ashes

 

[mat11]

Baker for 13 is a howler. Sit Lindsay on a wing or Travaglia off a half back flank.

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[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Actually there is a very good chance we would have Curtin on the list and be working out what to do with pick 4.

You think we asked for 2 1st rounders for our 1 future 1st?

Offer was definetly like

Future 1st + pick swaps in Adelaides favor in 2023 draft for pick 8 + future 2nd lines .

 

[stallon]

We don't want Bolton. He's an icing on the cake type of player. We're still baking the cake. Please don't give this thought any oxygen.

Just contemplating how it might get done. I think there is a world where we try to top up the list rather than continue to prioritise the draft like many here think we should.

There is more than 1 way to build a list. I agree Bolton is a icing on the cake type but how far away are we actually from having the cake ready to eat? We have talent, adding Bolton and a kid with pick 6 this year, and keeping our natural F1 next year rounds out the talent we need. We have a heap of kids too, guys like Maric and Hutch look like great additions that make up for draft misses with 2nd round picks.

We need specific roles filled on top of that. We have the midfield bolstered with Graham and Baker, add Dev for cheap to round out depth. Need a few defenders and a maybe 1 more a-grade mid and we are sorted

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Baker for 13 is a howler. Sit Lindsay on a wing or Travaglia off a half back flank.

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Can we stop using small words like howler. Correct terminology can be used like

"Worst mistake since the dawn of civilisation"
"Lowest point of West Coast Eagles history"
"Zac Langdonesque move"
"Like a 190 pt loss to Fremantle Dockers on a wet and windy day"

 

[bzparkes]

How is trading in players and coach from the bottom team going to work in a rebuild. Don't see any upside here at all.

Next they will be offering Harley Reid for a mid range pick.

Pyke needs to start considering his future. The member backlash will be massive.

5/7 melt.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

You know it will be

Pick 9 for Shai Bolton

29

Shai Bolton

Age

25

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

Pick 13 for Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

Yes we are that club

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Rumors are doing the rounds that Harley Reid will relinquish the 9 jersey to keep its lineage of going toone of the top players of our club. Jack Graham

34

Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

said he feels privileged to take the number on

 

[Barrybran]

Just contemplating how it might get done. I think there is a world where we try to top up the list rather than continue to prioritise the draft like many here think we should.

There is more than 1 way to build a list. I agree Bolton is a icing on the cake type but how far away are we actually from having the cake ready to eat? We have talent, adding Bolton and a kid with pick 6 this year, and keeping our natural F1 next year rounds out the talent we need. We have a heap of kids too, guys like Maric and Hutch look like great additions that make up for draft misses with 2nd round picks.

We need specific roles filled on top of that. We have the midfield bolstered with Graham and Baker, add Dev for cheap to round out depth. Need a few defenders and a maybe 1 more a-grade mid and we are sorted

Bolton is a forward that can chop out in the midfield as opposed to Warner who is a mid who can play forward. Your trade proposal is effectively 3, 13 + Hawks' F1 for 6 + Bolton. If our mid of choice is available at 6 AND we could get Warner next year, it would be a coup. There's a lot of water to go under the bridge for that to happen though.

 

[Spooky17]

Baker for pick 13

 

[EagleMan87]

Half the campaigners in this thread: