List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Like i said before Richmond are only offloading players to speed up there rebuild, this will slow our rebuild down big time.

No it won't.

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[bzparkes]

Like i said before Richmond are only offloading players to speed up there rebuild, this will slow our rebuild down big time.

Didn't work out so well for them last time they had 5 picks inside 30...

 

[mattyc75]

Hannebury was surprisingly optimistic on our list, he made some good points, we are ok for top end talent for the next couple of years, but lack depth that is AFL standard.
If over the next 3 years we phase out Yeo and Gov, then Reid/Hewett/a couple more 1st round picks come on we will be more than fine

Having waterman really come on has helped a lot , with all our tall forwards it allows us to plug other holes. Edwards showing more last season and hough and ginbey down back are good too

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[stallon]

Should we ask the question about Corey Warner this year?
Balanced mid who goes at 20something touches a game in the VFL. Depth option who wont get games at the Swans with their depth and constant adding of academy kids. Wouldnt get a game at Freo either, but might with us.
Start the process of getting Chad next year. Probably not really a consideration until next year but Corey may appreciate a better chance at getting a game.

May also make Chad feel a little more homesick without any family over there too to make sure he comes back next year

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

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I was just going to go with the below

Dear Pykey

Why is our list manager such a fat stupid dickhead. Our list is crap and so far he hasnt done anything about it. Could you please let that walking ball of anus puss know that we are not happy

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Should we ask the question about Corey Warner this year?
Balanced mid who goes at 20something touches a game in the VFL. Depth option who wont get games at the Swans with their depth and constant adding of academy kids. Wouldnt get a game at Freo either, but might with us.
Start the process of getting Chad next year. Probably not really a consideration until next year but Corey may appreciate a better chance at getting a game.

May also make Chad feel a little more homesick without any family over there too to make sure he comes back next year

I would but we would need to cut deeper a bit if we did. I dont think club has the courage for that.

 

[bzparkes]

I was just going to go with the below

Dear Pykey

Why is our list manager such a fat stupid dickhead. Our list is crap and so far he hasnt done anything about it. Could you please let that walking ball of anus puss know that we are not happy

I mean, what can he even do to improve it before trade week starts?

Dig up players from the cemetery below MRP?

 

[stallon]

I would but we would need to cut deeper a bit if we did. I dont think club has the courage for that.

We should comfortably have 8 list spots if we delist Witherden, 7 if we dont.
Graham, Baker, Dev/Garcia and Corey Warner with 4 picks is easily doable imo.

Take pick 3+13/23+Champion and somehow find another pick

 

[Elite Pete]

We should comfortably have 8 list spots if we delist Witherden, 7 if we dont.
Graham, Baker, Dev/Garcia and Corey Warner with 4 picks is easily doable imo.

Take pick 3+13/23+Champion and somehow find another pick

More cuts. Keep hearing picks in the 40s this year are like picks in 20s of any other draft.

 

[Barrybran]

More cuts. Keep hearing picks in the 40s this year are like picks in 20s of any other draft.

Sounds like your average hype. Isn't this a deep draft more than a good draft?

 

[pantskyle]

Sounds like your average hype. Isn't this a deep draft more than a good draft?

Deep and good. Very even. Lots of talent. Get on it.

 

[Altum Volantes]

We should comfortably have 8 list spots if we delist Witherden, 7 if we dont.
Graham, Baker, Dev/Garcia and Corey Warner with 4 picks is easily doable imo.

Take pick 3+13/23+Champion and somehow find another pick

I doubt we are getting Dev or Garcia…or Warner (wut?), so picks shouldn’t be an issue.

There will be picks involved in the Baker trade, won’t be a 1 pick swap.

Witherden will stay if Rotham goes - or vice versa I think.

 

[stallon]

More cuts. Keep hearing picks in the 40s this year are like picks in 20s of any other draft.

If we cut more it starts to go into delisting guys a year early, do we even have the salary cap to delist a guy like Sheed or something? id assume we would have front loaded as much as possible

Split 23 into 2 picks around pick 30-40 I agree with if we dont want a KPD

 

[Keys]

Like i said before Richmond are only offloading players to speed up there rebuild, this will slow our rebuild down big time.

At some point can you please get your head around the fact that Richmond aren’t offloading players

They’ve offered Graham a contract of equal value to stay and would happily retain Baker if they could

Graham costs no draft capital and helps fill a void in our list for 2 or 3 years before he becomes a depth player helping new recruits in the WAFL

Baker is comfortably best 22 and will give us ~100 games of decent football. The issue with him is draft cost and we have to wait before we know what that is- an early R2 pick seems fair based on what other players of similar ability have been traded for

 

[stallon]

I doubt we are getting Dev or Garcia…or Warner (wut?), so picks shouldn’t be an issue.

I was asking for thoughts on going for Corey Warner...

There will be picks involved in the Baker trade, won’t be a 1 pick swap.

Witherden will stay if Rotham goes - or vice versa I think.

I agree, unless we decide to move guys like Maric, Hunt and potentially trial someone else into the backline or draft a couple of defenders

 

[Barrybran]

Deep and good. Very even. Lots of talent. Get on it.

Split everything then. 3, 13 + 23 for 7, 17, 27, 37, 47 + 57

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I mean, what can he even do to improve it before trade week starts?

Dig up players from the cemetery below MRP?

I feel like people take me too seriously at times (the above is a quote from South Park ragging on people who havnt been given a chance to do anything )

 

[Elite Pete]

Sounds like your average hype. Isn't this a deep draft more than a good draft?

Just repeating what draft expert Cal is saying.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

We should comfortably have 8 list spots if we delist Witherden, 7 if we dont.
Graham, Baker, Dev/Garcia and Corey Warner with 4 picks is easily doable imo.

Take pick 3+13/23+Champion and somehow find another pick

Ah so id take 5 picks no matter what myself. If we wanted the 4th player then id delist Callum Jamieson without losing 1 eyelash. Dont think the club would be so brave

 

[Chris_6678]

Im going to email the club about Liam Baker......

Im serious

Crazy

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Crazy

Desperation leads men to do crazy things

 

[Keys]

Awfully close to 13 for baker and 21.

Assuming Sydney would do that trade, which I can’t see why they would at all. Why would they give up a first rounder to move 4 spots? That can only happen on draft night if a player they rated at say top 5 is still available.

All other offers for GC 12 are about the points. If we wish to trade for junkier picks, then sure. So not sure about “plenty of others” that wouldn’t severely dilute what we have.

You might be right in that Sydney wouldn’t do that trade. It was a quick example

As for Gold Coast, their side of the trade is for points but the other side is clubs trying to move up the draft order. Melbourne traded picks 14,27,35 last year to Gold Coast for pick 11

My main point is that if/when we do get pick 13 for Barrass we should at least look at what other clubs are prepared to offer for it before blindly handing it over to Richmond

The offers to Gold Coast for pick 12 will be a handy guide to what pick 13 is worth

 

[Chris_6678]

We need Mini to have a catch up with Shai in a public place with the media getting in on it so it drives the price up for Freo.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

We need Mini to have a catch up with Shai in a public place with the media getting in on it so it drives the price up for Freo.

He had a catch up with Jack Graham but the West reported it as "McQualter makes time for mysterious stranger at Scarborough cafe"

 

[Elite Pete]

Split everything then. 3, 13 + 23 for 7, 17, 27, 37, 47 + 57

Get at least 30 back for the TB deal if the Future first isn’t a goer.

As the other poster said. At least 29 in the Baker for 13 deal

3, 23,29,30 and Champion plus need a rookie spot for Mature age ruck (Blakiston?)

Baker + Graham + Dev + Garcia.

10 spots needed so 11 retirements/Delistings/Trades
1- Gaff (Retired)
2- TB (Traded)
3- Darling (Traded)
4- Culley (Traded/delisted)
5- L Edwards (medically retired)
6- Witherden (delisted
7- Rotham (free agent?)
8- Trew (delisted)
9- Baker (delisted)
10- Jones (delisted)
11- Burgiel (the one I would re rookie if we have any other players traded out)