List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

How do we get warner then?

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Ah - that is a long shot.

What I like is to look at the alternative position. So we either get Warner OR Cody and Fred

 

[ziad]

After looking at Baker's nuffie B & F night speech, laughable that the Tigger supporters are banging on about him as a future captain.

May be an on field leader, but his vibe was pretty disrespectful and completely failed to read the room or thank the club properly.

Maybe the honest answer is, he's not real bright (which suits as us he sure has burnt some bridges at the Tiggers, so mid to latish 2nd rounder and they can think themselves lucky).

Shai Bolton's speech marginally better, but gee the Tiggers average IQ will shoot up with these 2 moving on.

Perhaps about time we target good footballers not good boys. I have no idea what the back story is though.

 

[BartBart]

After looking at Baker's nuffie B & F night speech, laughable that the Tigger supporters are banging on about him as a future captain.

May be an on field leader, but his vibe was pretty disrespectful and completely failed to read the room or thank the club properly.

Maybe the honest answer is, he's not real bright (which suits as us he sure has burnt some bridges at the Tiggers, so mid to latish 2nd rounder and they can think themselves lucky).

Shai Bolton's speech marginally better, but gee the Tiggers average IQ will shoot up with these 2 moving on.

Enough to burn bridges that he can't go back if WCE trade falls through?

 

[darksquare]

One of the things I look for in a player is the ability to both accumulate possessions and hit the scoreboard. A measure of this is the number of 20-possession, 2-goal games a player can register in a season. I expect Harley Reid to become prolific in this respect.

To put things in perspective, last year only 3 Eagles achieved this in any game (Waterman, Hunt, Sheed). This year we had 3 instances again (Yeo, Reid, Ryan) out of a total of 239 achieved by all players in the league.

Last year, the highest number of 20+2 games was achieved by Toby Greene

4

Toby Greene

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

G

2.3

5star

D

26.6

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

14.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.0

1star

, with 7. He only had 1 this year. Here's a list of all players who managed it 3 or more times in 2024:

3: C Rozee, E Gulden, L Baker, S Bolton, H Sheezel, A Treloar, C Ward, C Macdonald, M D'Ambrosio, E Richards, S Flanders

4: J Kelly, J Cameron, C Rayner, H McCluggage, P Cripps, H Young, J Ginnivan, L Neale, N Martin

5: J Horne-Francis, J Daniher, G Miers, B Keays, D Moore

6: N Daicos

8: M Bontempelli

11: I Heeney, C Warner

We need players like this. We're getting one (Baker) and it's hard to argue we shouldn't get another (Warner) if he's in any way available.

 

[Dylan82]

Jack Graham only played generally 70% ToG in a team that finished last. Anyone who watched the Tigers know why?

Minutes were probably being managed to some extent as he had a serious quad strain during preseason and then did his hamstring just three matches after his return. In 2023 his time on ground was higher.

Tigers also had D.Prestia, J.Hopper and T.Taranto who can't play anywhere except in J.Graham's preferred position, so that has probably had some impact as well.

 

[stallon]

One of the things I look for in a player is the ability to both accumulate possessions and hit the scoreboard. A measure of this is the number of 20-possession, 2-goal games a player can register in a season. I expect Harley Reid to become prolific in this respect.

To put things in perspective, last year only 3 Eagles achieved this in any game (Waterman, Hunt, Sheed). This year we had 3 instances again (Yeo, Reid, Ryan) out of a total of 239 achieved by all players in the league.

Last year, the highest number of 20+2 games was achieved by Toby Greene, with 7. He only had 1 this year. Here's a list of all players who managed it 3 or more times in 2024:

3: C Rozee, E Gulden, L Baker, S Bolton, H Sheezel, A Treloar, C Ward, C Macdonald, M D'Ambrosio, E Richards, S Flanders

4: J Kelly, J Cameron, C Rayner, H McCluggage, P Cripps, H Young, J Ginnivan, L Neale, N Martin

5: J Horne-Francis, J Daniher, G Miers, B Keays, D Moore

6: N Daicos

8: M Bontempelli

11: I Heeney, C Warner

We need players like this. We're getting one (Baker) and it's hard to argue we shouldn't get another (Warner) if he's in any way available.

In a better team I believe Kelly is still this sort of player, we have Reid and I think Hewett will be this too once he gets his fitness sorted.

We can only fit so many of these guys in the side, Sydney got exposed a bit with having too many of these types running/offensive mids going through their midfield in the grand final.

Swapping Kelly out for Warner though would be an ideal situation

 

[Wooshaaaa]

And if Warner leaves along with Parker Swans will chase picks PLUS a ready made player to boost centre square clearances.

It's the area they were totally smashed in the GF.

So Kelly would be a great addition if Warner moved. Kelly also a pretty d3cent half forward. Swans get a player who can rack it up and impact immediately next season. Plus use pick 3 on a gun mid.

They have Cleary and Sheldrick for inside hard ball gets players. I suspect those 2 will be part of the changes U see the swans make I'm there midfield next year. I recon Taylor Adams will be playing some VFL next year.

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[Smotie2]

Not sure what people's angst is over trading baker in. Sure he's not a first round pick player but if we can get him for a 2nd rounder or third he is a good player and in the age bracket we need.
If you look at his highlights from 2023 there is enough to suggest he is going to help us get better.

 

[BartBart]

Not sure what people's angst is over trading baker in. Sure he's not a first round pick player but if we can get him for a 2nd rounder or third he is a good player and in the age bracket we need.
If you look at his highlights from 2023 there is enough to suggest he is going to help us get better.

I think the biggest angst is that we are know for giving overs & accepting unders in player trades over last 5 or so years.

And this draft is one where picks are more valuable than other years and all signs seem to be pointing more of the same.

Granted people might be jumping at shadows, but the possibility of paying overs for Baker isn't good.

 

[eaglevision]

Not sure what people's angst is over trading baker in. Sure he's not a first round pick player but if we can get him for a 2nd rounder or third he is a good player and in the age bracket we need.
If you look at his highlights from 2023 there is enough to suggest he is going to help us get better.

The angst is categorically the price. For a F3 I don’t think there would be many arguments. However if a 1R is involved then a large degree of angst would be expected and justifiably so.

 

[WestCoast05]

Not sure what people's angst is over trading baker in. Sure he's not a first round pick player but if we can get him for a 2nd rounder or third he is a good player and in the age bracket we need.
If you look at his highlights from 2023 there is enough to suggest he is going to help us get better.

I think ppl are just worried we may cave to pressure and use pick 13. I'd like to think we're smarter than that....

 

[Ishmael_]

On Tradies they noted that McQualter was pissed at Richmond when he left as he found out via the media that he didn't get the job.

And they floated the idea of him taking a hardline and walking Baker through the pre-season draft, ingratiating himself with the Eagles faithful.

100-1 that's not going to happen, but if it did, I'd be ingratiated as ****

 

[MaxHunt]

Not sure what people's angst is over trading baker in. Sure he's not a first round pick player but if we can get him for a 2nd rounder or third he is a good player and in the age bracket we need.
If you look at his highlights from 2023 there is enough to suggest he is going to help us get better.

It's not bringing him in that's the issue. It's the cost vs short and long term benefits.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Not drafting Kelly in 2017 is going to impact West Coasts trade and draft decisions for all time.

I would say not rookie listing Kelly in 2016 was the earlier issue. From memory that was the year we took Tom Gorter.

 

[Spooky17]

I’m surprised that the Richmond president took a swipe at Champion after 7 goals in 3 games.

 

[Elite Pete]

No real problem with the Baker speech. After the president speech pretty much targeted him imo.

Wasn’t great but play on, that and hopefully along with McQualter leaving the Tigers on bad terms we now draw a line in the sand and it’s pick 23 and move on

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

No way we trade Champion for 13 after only 7 goals this year.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Champion kicked 70 goals from 3 games in WAFL seniors this year.

Doesn't anyone realise this???

That's why the call him Champion.

 

[Mop]

7 goals in 3 games is the new Bock and Gunston, isn't it?

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

On Tradies they noted that McQualter was pissed at Richmond when he left as he found out via the media that he didn't get the job.

And they floated the idea of him taking a hardline and walking Baker through the pre-season draft, ingratiating himself with the Eagles faithful.

100-1 that's not going to happen, but if it did, I'd be ingratiated as ****

I don't understand why the PSD is not a genuine threat from us while we're at the bottom? Pay unders for Baker or walk him to the draft. Like Pyke said earlier in the year, we need to use all avenues available to us to improve our list.
Richmond won't take Baker at #1 ahead of us because of the fallout it would have with the AFLPA, let alone the message it would send to the rest of their list about how the club values them.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

On Tradies they noted that McQualter was pissed at Richmond when he left as he found out via the media that he didn't get the job.

And they floated the idea of him taking a hardline and walking Baker through the pre-season draft, ingratiating himself with the Eagles faithful.

100-1 that's not going to happen, but if it did, I'd be ingratiated as ****

 

[Peptide Pig]

Wondering if Mini may attract interest from any Dees players to come across?

Or get Bolton's attention.

People will hate this but with the Barrass trade and potentially Kelly we would actually have the trade capital to land two of Warner, Boltonor Kossie now.

Pick 3 and 13

Future pick 1 and Hawks F1st

Kelly.

With some later picks involved coming back to us.

Even then if Kelly also left we may still hold a 1st rounder to use as well.

Don’t hate it at all. Ideally shuffle some picks and retain a first rounder.

I can’t make my mind up on Bolton.. turning 26 and will cost a bit, would definitely be handy over next couple of years in his prime but we are still building.

Not sure about the rumor that Bolton and Baker don’t get along or if that has any influence.

Kozzy and Chad are the perfect age at 23 and 24. Kozzy is aggressive which we need, just has to stop jumping off the ground trying to decapitate blokes.

 

[FKASC]

7 goals in 3 games is the new Bock and Gunston, isn't it?

Several goals in three games

 

[Elite Pete]

I don't understand why the PSD is not a genuine threat from us while we're at the bottom? Pay unders for Baker or walk him to the draft. Like Pyke said earlier in the year, we need to use all avenues available to us to improve our list.
Richmond won't take Baker at #1 ahead of us because of the fallout it would have with the AFLPA, let alone the message it would send to the rest of their list about how the club values them.

Could be done if we wished. $1.5 on his for 1 year. Tigers ain’t touching that and when he gets to us we just smooth out the deal for the next 4 years to level out what we think he’s worth.

Just not worth it imo. Can find a decent trade if needed. Might be a 3 way trade with points and picks ect with Brissy for pick 18.

 

[Mop]

I don't understand why the PSD is not a genuine threat from us while we're at the bottom?

Richmond outbottomed us though, there's that minor detail.