List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Azza21]

For a moment there I was thinking you were actually trying to put together something thoughtful. Then I saw...
Oscar Allen + pick 3 for 6 bolton + baker

We need a player like bolton more than oscar.
Having J.Will, Waterman, Archer Reid, Maric and hopefully Gerreyn in the draft will be enough Tall forward. We don't have enough x factor, match winners like bolton

 

[THE A5]

We need a player like bolton more than oscar.
Having J.Will, Waterman, Archer Reid, Maric and hopefully Gerreyn in the draft will be enough Tall forward. We don't have enough x factor, match winners like bolton

players like Bolton are the cherry on top. The type of player you bring in just as you’re ready to challenge. On the other hand the guys like Allen are fundamental for your building list. Bar Waterman non those guys are proven yet.

 

[Azza21]

players like Bolton are the cherry on top. The type of player you bring in just as you’re ready to challenge. On the other hand the guys like Allen are fundamental for your building list. Bar Waterman non those guys are proven yet.

Allen's had 1 good year, he is always injured

 

[Elite Pete]

players like Bolton are the cherry on top. The type of player you bring in just as you’re ready to challenge. On the other hand the guys like Allen are fundamental for your building list. Bar Waterman non those guys are proven yet.

That would be the ideal situation but the way Rankine plays in the midfield and forward is similar to Bolton.

Crows wouldn’t give him up and they are bottom 4. When they traded for him they didn’t look like they would be contending either.

If we had the link midfielder already I’d be all for bringing in Bolton but we don’t so have to use pick 3 for that

 

[Ghossein]

When you look at the back group, we're still lacking a Jetta/Hurn type player, another quality offensive back, a speedy linebreaker with elite kicking skills - only have Gov, Hough's good but not elite. Could sacrifice Cole easily. Ginbey shows promise but kicking is unreliable like Duggan. 3 backs there that are B grade (Ginbey, Cole, Duggan), solid but flawed.

We're also losing Witherden, Rotham, JJ, Barrass... we're losing a fair bit of depth down back

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

As an exercise I'm having a crack at the R1 line up just to see what we're potentially working with (it's how I approach my FIFA transfer windows)

FB: Duggan HEdwards Hough
HB: Cole McGovern Ginbey
C: Johnston Kelly Hunt
HF: Cripps Allen Baker
FF: Ryan Waterman Long
Fol: Flynn Yeo Reid

Int: Dewar, Hewett, JWilliams Graham
Sub: Brockman

Am hopeful Brockman, Hewett, Flynn have really good pre-seasons. Hutchinson and Maric stiff to miss.

Think Johnston is a natural fit for the wing over Hall/Chesser who would be better developed as inside mids

Does leave us a bit light on the back rotations

Misses out: Sheed, Hutchinson, Chesser, BWilliams, Maric, Hall, Petch, Bazzo

This is too much of what we are already doing scenario in regards to mdifield and defense. I think we need to be a bit more umm creative then this. Id go with

FB: Hough, H.Edwards, Hunt
HB: Maric, McGovern, Ginbey
C: Cole. Garcia/Sheldrick, Duggan
HF: Baker, Allen, Long
FF: Ryan, Waterman, Dewar
R: Flynn, Yeo, Reid
I/C: Hutchison, Graham, JWill, Kelly

BWill, Chesser, Brockman, pick 3, Hewett, Sheed in reserve

I think Maric to HB should be first thing we try. Need some more field kicking from that spot. Hunt can provide some run and Ginbey can be the sweeper

Tom Cole at wing because we have no one else. As the year goes on id like to see Hewett take that spot. Garcia/Sheldrick as I feel we need 1 of them and no more Tim Helicopter in the midfield. Forward line id like to see Noah Long up the ground with his creativity. Baker for obvious reasons. Ryan deeper and Dewar with first go at forward. Hutchison on bench to play the HFF/Midfield utility role. Graham to tag mostly. JWill as backup ruck and tall forward and Tim Kelly to play in place of Harley Reid and not in the same centre bounce setup as each other

Ill give McQualter a ring. Think he might wanna talk to me about my ideas

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

We're also losing Witherden, Rotham, JJ, Barrass... we're losing a fair bit of depth down back

Rotham, JJ shouldn’t have been anywhere near our best 22. I’d say we never lost anything with those 2 going. Witho is easily replaced since he wasn’t that good anyway. A crapload of pressure on HEdwards shoulders that’s for sure. It’s why we need a guy like Maric to learn the spot in pre season to provide some flexibility

 

[Keys]

We're also losing Witherden, Rotham, JJ, Barrass... we're losing a fair bit of depth down back

It won’t please people but I’m not convinced Witherden gets delisted

It will depend on whether or not we bring in more than Baker and Graham as mature aged players and/or trade Culley/someone else out

We’re light on in that 22-27 age bracket so if it’s just two we bring in with Jones and Trew already gone plus Rotham and Luke Edwards likely to go, then I can see Witherden being retained.

Barrass, Darling and Gaff also represent a loss of 700+ games of experience

Not necessarily saying we should keep Witho but can see why we might

 

[Broken_Chairs]

It won’t please people but I’m not convinced Witherden gets delisted

It will depend on whether or not we bring in more than Baker and Graham as mature aged players and/or trade Culley/someone else out

We’re light on in that 22-27 age bracket so if it’s just two we bring in with Jones and Trew already gone plus Rotham and Luke Edwards likely to go, then I can see Witherden being retained.

Barrass, Darling and Gaff also represent a loss of 700+ games of experience

Not necessarily saying we should keep Witho but can see why we might

Don't have too many issues keepying witho - hard at it and played most games last year. He's not the future and should be phased out but perfectly fine depth.

 

[Ghossein]

It won’t please people but I’m not convinced Witherden gets delisted

It will depend on whether or not we bring in more than Baker and Graham as mature aged players and/or trade Culley/someone else out

We’re light on in that 22-27 age bracket so if it’s just two we bring in with Jones and Trew already gone plus Rotham and Luke Edwards likely to go, then I can see Witherden being retained.

Barrass, Darling and Gaff also represent a loss of 700+ games of experience

Not necessarily saying we should keep Witho but can see why we might

Agreed, but I would prefer if we could trade to fill the void or shift an existing player into defense

Just find it useful to do that exercise because you identify gaps like this

 

[ghostbat12]

Been saying that the Tigers will be coming for pick 2 or 3. Rumour is they want to keep Jagga and FOS together.

North will look to split IMO but niether orth or whoever trades up will do that for FOS IMO.

So Tigers will deal for either 2 or 3 whichever is cheaper.

I can just see we will solit pick 3 and Baker will get caught up in the pick exchanges.

What would it take to get pick 6, 9 and Baker?

Hopefully only 3 plus 23.

Likely 3 plus Hawks F1st. Which is fine IMO. Some late picks get involved if needed.

Tigers fans will of course believe they hold all the cards in that negotiation too.

Everyone is desperate to uppercut themselves for their cause.

 

[Ghossein]

Rotham, JJ shouldn’t have been anywhere near our best 22. I’d say we never lost anything with those 2 going. Witho is easily replaced since he wasn’t that good anyway. A crapload of pressure on HEdwards shoulders that’s for sure. It’s why we need a guy like Maric to learn the spot in pre season to provide some flexibility

The point is you need depth, if 2-3 players go out with suspension or injury who comes in?

 

[eaglevision]

Draper out of combine with more back issues, think we should pay attention to that because he would have tested very well. Trainor out too.

Only leaves Jagga, FOS, Langford and Smillie to test out of the top mids along with Travaglia.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Draper out of combine with more back issues, think we should pay attention to Thai because he would have tested very well. Trainor out too.

Only leaves Jagga, FOS, Langford and Smillie to test out of the top mids along with Travaglia.

 

[Smotie2]

Well they are now. Were they any less capable before the GF win?

Yep...mental belief lol

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Duggan..shit kick.
Cole………shit kick
Hunt……..shit kick
Kelly………shit kick
Rotham…shit kick
Witho……shit kick
BW………..shit kick
Every one of these guys could put a footy within a square metre at training but decision making/execution/pressure sorts them out.
Skills,skills,skills and more skills.

 

[Ghossein]

Ideally if Hewett, Hutchinson, Hall, or Chesser can take some of the center midfield work, Yeo can shift to that HB role

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The point is you need depth, if 2-3 players go out with suspension or injury who comes in?

Oh that’s easy when it comes to Rotham and JJ

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Ideally if Hewett, Hutchinson, Hall, or Chesser can take some of the center midfield work, Yeo can shift to that HB role

Ginbey did the shift to HB role to take over Rotham to be honest . For defense I’d say

Hunt permanently in defense to replace Witherden. Find a winger to replace Hunt
Johnston to replace JJ in backup HB rotation
Ginbey to replace Rotham But then Maric to defense to provide another option too

 

[eaglevision]

Duggan..shit kick.
Cole………shit kick
Hunt……..shit kick
Kelly………shit kick
Rotham…shit kick
Witho……shit kick
BW………..shit kick
Every one of these guys could put a footy within a square metre at training but decision making/execution/pressure sorts them out.
Skills,skills,skills and more skills.

Not quite how I’d phrase it but agree with your point. The best kicks at the top end of the draft are FOS, Langford and Lindsay. Reid is also a good kick but not penetrating and is still breastfeeding.

Another reason I’m big on keeping 3 and 13.

 

[Elite Pete]

Looks like Power have offer Garcia 2 years now. While we are waiting on Graham who might say he’s staying and sitting on our hands by the looks.

 

[Ghossein]

Ginbey did the shift to HB role to take over Rotham to be honest . For defense I’d say

Hunt permanently in defense to replace Witherden. Find a winger to replace Hunt
Johnston to replace JJ in backup HB rotation
Ginbey to replace Rotham But then Maric to defense to provide another option too

Ginbey and Hunt in the backline I like. Johnston is a good option due to his skill, but I do like him on the wing as I'm sick of us just sticking the 5th-6th best midfielder out there. Maric is a good option purely due to how good is disposal by foot is, but I'd like to see him develop into a more utility player that can go HFF/Wing/HBF.

Will be interesting to see what McQualter does, it's a young list and he can mold it as he sees fit

 

[southcoast]

Jack Graham

34

Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

mulling over a possible move after visiting potential new club.

I think I’ve see this story before.


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[Lyyynnnchy]

Oscar Allen + pick 3 for 6 bolton + baker

wtf? I wouldn’t do Allen alone for 6, Bolton and Baker

 

[stallon]

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Looks like Power have offer Garcia 2 years now. While we are waiting on Graham who might say he’s staying and sitting on our hands by the looks.

Fiorino a possible wing option for a couple of years?