List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[bzparkes]

Riley Garcia this year's Dev Robertson, it seems...

 

[Elite Pete]

Jack Graham mulling over a possible move after visiting potential new club.

I think I’ve see this story before.


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Like he hasn’t had the last 3 months it’s been rumoured he was coming to the Eagles.

 

[Elite Pete]

Riley Garcia this year's Dev Robertson, it seems...

12 months on and people can probably see why we need him and why waiting for players like this and not having a plan b or missed your other options is not a great position for us (again)

 

[bzparkes]

12 months on and people can probably see why we need him and why waiting for players like this and not having a plan b or missed your other options is not a great position for us (again)

Would Dev have done any better than say Trew?

Garcia's also 23 and hasn't exactly set the world in fire.

As a board, we have a weird fixation on a particular player every year, even when they aren't particularly good.

Grass is always greener, I guess.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Would Dev have done any better than say Trew?

Garcia's also 23 and hasn't exactly set the world in fire.

As a board, we have a weird fixation on a particular player every year, even when they aren't particularly good.

Grass is always greener, I guess.

Grass? We dealing with piles of dirt on our side. Any grass is greener then our pile of dirt

 

[eaglevision]

Would Dev have done any better than say Trew?

Garcia's also 23 and hasn't exactly set the world in fire.

As a board, we have a weird fixation on a particular player every year, even when they aren't particularly good.

Grass is always greener, I guess.

100% better than Trew.

I watched a lot of the Dogs VFL games in the first half of the year to keep tabs on Buss. Garcia was absolutely outstanding in the midfield. His average games shat all over any of our WAFL best performances and he would walk into our B22. He just wasn’t given an extended run in a settled position and role by crazy Bevo. I can’t believe we’re not offering him an extra year and a bit more cash. Particularly with the patience required with Hewett.

 

[Elite Pete]

Would Dev have done any better than say Trew?

Garcia's also 23 and hasn't exactly set the world in fire.

As a board, we have a weird fixation on a particular player every year, even when they aren't particularly good.

Grass is always greener, I guess.

Yes

Been good when given an opportunity, Bullies list is harder to crack than ours. Have you watched him play?

Yes but we have a lot of them this year. (Peatling, Dev again, Garcia, Buss, Knobel, Reidy) are they good? It ain’t they? Been plenty of these types that turn into decent types at their clubs or others.

Maybe just a failure by the list management team they have locked these guys in yet? Happened last year when it was too late to pivot after Dev said no at the last minute.

Who knows they might already have a yes from Dev and co. The fact that 6 or something UFA are signing on for their club tomorrow apparently which helps with moving on to other targets and Graham ‘is taking until next week’ by that stage Garcia, maybe Dev might have all committed somewhere else.

 

[RanaNaved]

Would Dev have done any better than say Trew?

Garcia's also 23 and hasn't exactly set the world in fire.

As a board, we have a weird fixation on a particular player every year, even when they aren't particularly good.

Grass is always greener, I guess.

Or a fixation with multiple player's.

This year it's Sid Draper, Riley Garcia, James Peatling and not taking Bo Allen.

 

[KERRPOW]

We're also losing Witherden, Rotham, JJ, Barrass... we're losing a fair bit of depth down back

Have a feeling witherden will get a 1 year deal

 

[KERRPOW]

Would Dev have done any better than say Trew?

Garcia's also 23 and hasn't exactly set the world in fire.

As a board, we have a weird fixation on a particular player every year, even when they aren't particularly good.

Grass is always greener, I guess.

Id even take weeds (like dev) at this point.

 

[illegaleagle]

Have a feeling witherden will get a 1 year deal

They would prefer to keep duds like Witherden instead of recruiting good prospects like Garcia. I think our recruiters need an overhaul as they can’t close the deals. Looks like they can’t even close the deal with average footballers like Graham and Robertson.

 

[Schtinker]

There's 2 x 1st rounders and 2 x 1st rounders.
Big difference between pick 3 + pick 4 (JK) + a later pick vs. 2 x picks in the mid teens.

He ain't no Judd but neither is the pick comparison Judd-esque.

Why everything hinges on Barrass trade for Eagles

Premiership star Tom Barrass’ move to Hawthorn will unlock a frenetic trade period for West Coast that is set to land high-profile recruit Liam Baker.

thewest.com.au

Hawthorn are set to stump up pick No.13 to get Barrass across and possibly a future second-rounder, with the Eagles able to on-trade the first-round pick for Baker. West Coast are set to demand more than just one first-round pick for Barrass given he is contracted, but the industry believed asking price of two first-round draft picks is excessive for this year’s semi-finalists.

Hawthorn’s next pick currently sits at No.30 and given they start the pre-season as the second favourites to win next year’s premiership, it is likely to be a better selection than a future second-round pick if the Eagles can get it.

It will be the first real test for new West Coast list boss Matthew Clarke, who also crossed from Richmond in February to replace Rohan O’Brien.

The Eagles are expected to be busy this trade period with veteran forward Jack Darling on the move to North Melbourne on a multi-year deal that is likely to involve pick No.64.

 

[Ghossein]

Have a feeling witherden will get a 1 year deal

I don't mind Witho but I feel like his skillset is actually better suited to a wing role, he's a decent disposer but he's just terrible at defending

 

[kerrazy]

Dat pick 13 hey - don't even have it yet and it's already gone before we can blink.

 

[new breed]

J Martin going to Geelong also , like some sort magic charm at that club .

J Martin , C Oliver , Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

.
Pick 1 , pick 13 , pick 6 .

 

[illegaleagle]

J Martin going to Geelong also , like some sort magic charm at that club .

J Martin , C Oliver , Bailey Smith .
Pick 1 , pick 13 , pick 6 .

We struggle to get duds like Graham and Dev over the line

 

[Grahame]

I don't mind Witho but I feel like his skillset is actually better suited to a wing role, he's a decent disposer but he's just terrible at defending

Sorry don’t agree. Guys had 121 games and is mostly mediocre. I know it’s tempting to select an ‘almost’ player but he’s at his ceiling.

I’d rather take a fresh approach and it might include gambling on a new face - who mightn’t make it - or who could be far better than Witho. That could be a newbie or it could be an older player repurposed.

Repeating the same thing over and expecting different results etc etc.

 

[Azza21]

wtf? I wouldn’t do Allen alone for 6, Bolton and Baker

Thank God your not making decisions at wc then, cause if Richmond offered that, you would be stupid not to take it.
Allen is not as good as you think, he's only kicked 139 goals in 7 years and he's always injured.
He's got great draft value now so trade him now before he breaks down again

 

[Schtinker]

Bring back the PieMan and Crazy Vozzo.

 

[Ghossein]

Sorry don’t agree. Guys had 121 games and is mostly mediocre. I know it’s tempting to select an ‘almost’ player but he’s at his ceiling.

I’d rather take a fresh approach and it might include gambling on a new face - who mightn’t make it - or who could be far better than Witho. That could be a newbie or it could be an older player repurposed.

Repeating the same thing over and expecting different results etc etc.

I agree but as long as we can actually identify that 'fresh approach'

We're talking about singing Witho for 1 year because we have a significant lack of players in his position

 

[Smotie2]

Thank God your not making decisions at wc then, cause if Richmond offered that, you would be stupid not to take it.
Allen is not as good as you think, he's only kicked 139 goals in 7 years and he's always injured.
He's got great draft value now so trade him now before he breaks down again

Spot on. People don't like to hear it but he is worth more in a trade than he's been to us in 7 years.

If we got Bolton and pick 6 I'd sign in an instant.

 

[illegaleagle]

Riley Garcia this year's Dev Robertson, it seems...

Probably Graham now since he needs more time to think about it

 

[stallon]

How about:
F1 for 6 + 38 (GCS, they need huge points next year)
Barrass+38 for 13+hawks f1
23+f2 for baker+29
Darling for 64
BW+64 for DevRob+Bris f2
Culley for 47 (Richmond)
47 for Ladhams(Syd, ruck cover, he can fight Flynn)

Leaves us with 3, 6, 13, 29, 59
Next year Hawks F1, Bris f2, Wce f3

3 take whichever mid
6 take Travaglia
13 take Tauru/Lindsay
29 take a winger if we took Tauru, KPD if we took Lindsay
59 match Champion
Add Baker, Graham, DevRob and Ladhams
Rookie list take whoever

I think thats most list holes covered, with fairly balanced trades.
Drafting a couple of defenders means we can afford to delist Witho.

Next year offer Sydney the Hawks F1 + our 2026 2nd rounder for Warner, play some Geelong games and hopefully get a little unders, have our 2026 picks too if required.
Im sure teams will start to look at some of the kids we have on the list too by then, might be able to trade out a couple on the fringe that bring in more picks

 

[Spooky17]

Why everything hinges on Barrass trade for Eagles

Premiership star Tom Barrass’ move to Hawthorn will unlock a frenetic trade period for West Coast that is set to land high-profile recruit Liam Baker.

thewest.com.au

Baker for pick 13, future second not first and Darling for pick 64.

This truly is the darkest timeline.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Haven’t checked in here too much today but willing to bet the flow chart has had a workout post Peatling announcement.