List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Looks like they can’t even close the deal with average footballers like Graham and Robertson.

This a bad thing?

Another case of the Eagles being saved from themselves?

 

[kerrazy]

Baker for pick 13, future second not first and Darling for pick 64.

This truly is the darkest timeline.

Only positive is the author

 

[MaxHunt]

That's the soft cap, the salary cap for players is $17.7m

Thanks for the clarification

 

[Elite Pete]

Just saw a Cats fans post. Parfitt sitting top 10 of their BnF after 5 rounds. He missed round 1 too.

Cleary didn’t go well after round 10.

Free and maybe plan c or d?

 

[stallon]

Just saw a Cats fans post. Parfitt sitting top 10 of their BnF after 5 rounds. He missed round 1 too.

Cleary didn’t go well after round 10.

Free and maybe plan c or d?

If no Dev or Garcia id do it

 

[twce13]

Mini should get on the phone to his mate Clarry.

Easy convo this..

"Hey mate, good news, I just checked willies old locker and he left his pipe behind, so you can pack lightly"

 

[Mattman93]

Bring back the PieMan and Crazy Vozzo.

This is a great point -- blaming Massey just doesn't seem like it'll be as fun does it.

Toddy has promise in this regard, but I assume he's responsible for WA at best, not to mention the guy looks like he's never scoffed a plate of party pies in his life.

 

[AnyDanger]

I think the most like for like comparison for the baker trade is the jack redden

8

Jack Redden

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.6

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

4.7

4star

T

5.7

5star

CL

3.9

5star

D

15.0

4star

K

7.3

3star

HB

7.8

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.3

3star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.4

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.8

5star

one - pick 17. Differences are jack was 2 years younger, we are at a different point in our list build currently and this is supposedly a strong draft. There's no doubt if #13 is involved then something comes back with it. We'll hold our breath.

 

[TY24]

Thank God your not making decisions at wc then, cause if Richmond offered that, you would be stupid not to take it.
Allen is not as good as you think, he's only kicked 139 goals in 7 years and he's always injured.
He's got great draft value now so trade him now before he breaks down again

Did you make an account purely to come and sling mud at our captain?

You've made 4 posts and they've all involved trading Allen or telling us he's not that good, actually.

 

[Ishmael_]

Haven’t checked in here too much today but willing to bet the flow chart has had a workout post Peatling announcement.

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Strangest thing about the 'not a destination club anymore' meme, is that we've never been one, not in the sense where we had players lining up to come here - never tried to be one

Our success has always been built on the draft with small trades. Destination club only in that once you're there you don't want to leave.

Kelly is the only 'gun' at the time of trading that I can remember trading in. Who's next? Wellingham? Hell, Chick? A few guns in hindsight sure, but it's not our bag.

 

[Azza21]

Did you make an account purely to come and sling mud at our captain?

You've made 4 posts and they've all involved trading Allen or telling us he's not that good, actually.

Can't trust his body, so trade him while you can get alot for him. It's good business

 

[Mulldogg]

It won’t please people but I’m not convinced Witherden gets delisted

It will depend on whether or not we bring in more than Baker and Graham as mature aged players and/or trade Culley/someone else out

We’re light on in that 22-27 age bracket so if it’s just two we bring in with Jones and Trew already gone plus Rotham and Luke Edwards likely to go, then I can see Witherden being retained.

Barrass, Darling and Gaff also represent a loss of 700+ games of experience

Not necessarily saying we should keep Witho but can see why we might

What are the chances we land Jaxon Prior from Brisbane? Not sure of his contract status but his kicking is far better than Witherden’s which was supposedly his strong suit but certainly isn’t as far as I’m concerned.

His old man is still involved at the club too so there is the nepotism/jobs for da boyz angle that West Coast supposedly loves.

 

[Schtinker]

Trade week starts next week and at present we look like having

Pick 3
Pick 23
Pick 59
Pick 64 (Darling)

Future 2nd (around pick 34 - 40 from Hawthorn)
Loss of Barrass for the gain of Baker
Possibly Graham which would give Richmond pick 22

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Could Brisbane start a bidding war with North for JD? briztoon what you gonna stump up

 

[FKASC]

I think the most like for like comparison for the baker trade is the jack redden one - pick 17. Differences are jack was 2 years younger, we are at a different point in our list build currently and this is supposedly a strong draft. There's no doubt if #13 is involved then something comes back with it. We'll hold our breath.

Redden was pure mid from the get go though. Baker has played most of his career as a back pocket/forward flanker

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

If the general consensus is don’t trade 13 for baker, why wouldn’t we offer Hawks F1, which you can safely assume is going to be higher than 13 given they’re on the up and adding TB and battle.

Why even offer hawks F1 when there's a good chance they could go backwards and it could be a top 10 pick? Just offer 23 or preferably F2 and be done with it, take it right to the end of the trade period if we have to because they aren't going to pick him up in the PSD after he's stated he wants to move to WA and they will grudgingly accept it. If we wanted to be real campaigners like a bombers or geelong they'd probably offer a F3 if they were in the same position as us. F2 is slight unders but too bad that's how it goes sometimes and they're going to be getting overs for Bolton and Rioli, time to stop acting like a charity.

 

[Elite Pete]

If no Dev or Garcia id do it

Or Graham or Garcia.

 

[eaglevision]

Trade week starts next week and at present we look like having

Pick 3
Pick 23
Pick 59
Pick 64 (Darling)

Future 2nd (around pick 34 - 40 from Hawthorn)
Loss of Barrass for the gain of Baker
Possibly Graham which would give Richmond pick 22

Plus pick 21 and whilst unlikely also wouldn’t rule out Barrass deal being 13 + 30.

 

[Schtinker]

Plus pick 21 and whilst unlikely also wouldn’t rule out Barrass deal being 13 + 30.

Wheres pick 21 come from?

 

[eaglevision]

Wheres pick 21 come from?

13 for Baker and 21.

 

[Schtinker]

13 for Baker and 21.

Good luck with that.

 

[Astro7]

Now Yeo and Maric would be a good duo down back, some grunt, speed and cleaner skills.
Hunt provided some drive, but is an unreliable kick like Witho, Dugs, Cole and Ginbey.
Need cool heads under pressure, that peripheral vision or spatial awareness in motion - something Reid has in spades, which makes him so special.

Not sure how it would work via trades, but a gun plug+play backman in the mid 20's bracket would be the ducks nuts.(Baker played back pocket?). Then Mini and his mates can drill some skills into the rest of the backs preseason and we have some depth.
Rebounding backs are crucial for the current game style, an aggressive attacking linebreaker.
(on that topic, Abbey Holmes asked Katy Perry if she knew what a Falcon was. Perry replied 'is it like a quarterback, do you have similar to linebackers in AFL?'
Holmes said no, we have forwards..!!?? (then explained what a falcon was))

 

[random260]

Draper out of combine with more back issues, think we should pay attention to that because he would have tested very well. Trainor out too.

Only leaves Jagga, FOS, Langford and Smillie to test out of the top mids along with Travaglia.

Holy ****. Draper going to slide. He would have done a top 5 speed and agility.

Best news for us

 

[eaglevision]

Holy ****. Draper going to slide. He would have done a top 5 speed and agility.

Best news for us

Not quite what I was alluding to. He’s had a few back issues in addition to the tibial bone stress earlier this year. He would have desperately wanted to test because he’d test so well and would have done everything he could to get up for it. The fact that he’s not been able to because of a back issue suggests it’s not great. I’m more cautious on his possible selection than most.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

So many conflicting emotions RE: Draper now...