List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Dark Sharks]

For me, the only real negative adding Graham, other than the fact he's injury prone and fairly B grade was that it meant Dev would be less likely to happen.

When if you look at them, Dev has much more upside, still potentially loads of room for more development, whilst Graham peaked a couple years ago.

Hopefully Dev still happens. Can never have too much mid depth, particularly for a side as lacking as ours.


It's either Dev or carry on with Ledwards for yet another year

 

[mattyc75]

Would be an absolutely bonkers strategy to draft in hopes of trading for a player down the line. It both requires Reid to want out of West Coast and then, most implausibly of all, nominate Melbourne.

But if any team was crazy enough to do it…

Much like the kelly trade situation i have no doubt that the media will be up in arms if reid wants to go home AND nominates a team. That would be disgraceful ,he should just go to whoever gives us the most

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[mattyc75]

I’m totally out of the loop regarding the draft and the players but I just saw FOS stated as a Bont like player. While Bont for his size isn’t the typical bull his size is an advantage. Interestingly FOS is 14cm shorter and in the modern day game stated as a small mid. First time I’ve seen a smaller mid compared to a bigger bodied mid

I think Langford has been compared to Bont more often

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[mattyc75]

It’s happening again

Happens both ways. Ppl on here saying the crows will trade up to get draper because guess where he's from...?

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[mattyc75]

Good. I’d be surprised if we’re not top of his list. Next question is price and where we draw the line. Would Brisbane drive a hard bargain? In order of preference:

Swap F4s
Pick 67
Pick 62

Unfortunately with points a premium for Brisbane I don’t think any of the above would be accepted even though they should be.

I actually hope we don't take him and wait til he's delisted if we're still keen

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[Peptide Pig]

Are priority picks out of the question for us now? I can’t recall but assume North got theirs before the trade period, or at least the ones that they had to trade for players (hard to remember all the different poverty packages they have been given).

Disappointing if we aren’t considered given how far our picks have been pushed back the last couple of years and with other teams getting gifted high picks for average FAs. An end of R1 this year would’ve made the Baker trade straight forward. A couple of F1s would be handy to strengthen our chances of Chad.

 

[eaglevision]

I actually hope we don't take him and wait til he's delisted if we're still keen

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If it’s anything other than those picks I’d agree. A lot is going to depend on exactly what was said between Dev and Fagan at the end of last year.

If it was stay for a year, fight for your spot and if it doesn’t work out we’ll get you to West Coast without hassle (like Darling) then great.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I actually hope we don't take him and wait til he's delisted if we're still keen

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HEs under contract for next year. They are not delisting him.

A cheap pick is what he's worth now. Either of our picks in the 60's is fine. If ended up with Champion and him for our two 60's picks would be fine.

 

[dajesmac]

How funny would it be if we get 14 and F2 for TB, give 14 for Baker and F2 for Dev Robertson.

I vomited just typing that

 

[FKASC]

HEs under contract for next year. They are not delisting him.

A cheap pick is what he's worth now. Either of our picks in the 60's is fine. If ended up with Champion and him for our two 60's picks would be fine.

We’ll trade Brisbane our future second rounder

 

[FKASC]

How funny would it be if we get 14 and F2 for TB, give 14 for Baker and F2 for Dev Robertson.

I vomited just typing that

I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest. In fact I give it a 50/50 chance of happening

 

[Tugga27]

Are priority picks out of the question for us now? I can’t recall but assume North got theirs before the trade period, or at least the ones that they had to trade for players (hard to remember all the different poverty packages they have been given).

Disappointing if we aren’t considered given how far our picks have been pushed back the last couple of years and with other teams getting gifted high picks for average FAs. An end of R1 this year would’ve made the Baker trade straight forward. A couple of F1s would be handy to strengthen our chances of Chad.

Yes
PP's are out of the question, I think.

The club hasn't come out and said anything which is really disappointing.

I'm guessing we never applied as I'm sure the media would've reported something about it.
Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[Obeanie1]

Would be an absolutely bonkers strategy to draft in hopes of trading for a player down the line. It both requires Reid to want out of West Coast and then, most implausibly of all, nominate Melbourne.

But if any team was crazy enough to do it…

Well considering they drafted Rivers, Van Rooyen, McVee and Pickett years before Harley was being discussed it obviously not a key strategy back then

More a coincidence.

If they are focused on Bo Allen not with pick 5 but another 1st and reaching?

And a bet each way means they are more than happy to retain WA players drafted. It just gives them options if it occurred.

 

[squashface]

Lol if Harley goes back to Vic he isn’t picking minnow clubs like Melbourne. It would be a Collingwood/Carlton/Geelong.

 

[mattyc75]

HEs under contract for next year. They are not delisting him.

A cheap pick is what he's worth now. Either of our picks in the 60's is fine. If ended up with Champion and him for our two 60's picks would be fine.

Yeah, wait til next year..

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[Bleedblueandgold]

Are priority picks out of the question for us now? I can’t recall but assume North got theirs before the trade period, or at least the ones that they had to trade for players (hard to remember all the different poverty packages they have been given).

Disappointing if we aren’t considered given how far our picks have been pushed back the last couple of years and with other teams getting gifted high picks for average FAs. An end of R1 this year would’ve made the Baker trade straight forward. A couple of F1s would be handy to strengthen our chances of Chad.

Yeah not happening, if we were getting them, we'd have received them by now.

 

[Wce17]

Just a thought with sliding back from 3. If you look at Fremantle’s draft picks with there latest rebuild Brayshaw was there highest pick going at 2. Young was 6, Serong 7 & Amiss 8, Champman 11, & so on.

They never had any help from the AFL unlike some clubs but they have just found the way payers by picking well (It’s hard for me to give any credit to Fremantle)

It’s a good example that there are still great players after 5 so personally not too bothered to slide back if it generates extra players/picks.

 

[Peptide Pig]

Much like the kelly trade situation i have no doubt that the media will be up in arms if reid wants to go home AND nominates a team. That would be disgraceful ,he should just go to whoever gives us the most

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The classic unbiased position of “Well there’s TWO teams in WA so he can be traded to the highest bidder”

It’s only fair that the equal is applied the other way “Well there’s TEN teams in VIC so he can be traded to the highest bidder”

Strangely still waiting to hear it…

 

[juddy_Like]

Sure it’s admiral that Freo haven’t had any handouts (ill say Henry is one) but you can argue they have been rebuilding for like 7 or 8 years.

Retention is a big key to a rebuid

 

[Boohemian]

Sure it’s admiral that Freo haven’t had any handouts (ill say Henry is one) but you can argue they have been rebuilding for like 7 or 8 years.

Retention is a big key to a rebuid

 

[garlic munchers]

Yeah not happening, if we were getting them, we'd have received them by now.

Yep no PP's for us this year.

But next year we are a shoo in when Nth passes us and the more importantly, a couple of Tiggers performances make our 24 June 2023 Sydney romp look like rip roaring, down to the line contested battle (i.e. shite we need to slip WC a couple so we can help our VIP big Melbourne club who traded out all their good players, for the good of the comp).

 

[Barrybran]

Just a thought with sliding back from 3. If you look at Fremantle’s draft picks with there latest rebuild Brayshaw was there highest pick going at 2. Young was 6, Serong 7 & Amiss 8, Champman 11, & so on.

They never had any help from the AFL unlike some clubs but they have just found the way payers by picking well (It’s hard for me to give any credit to Fremantle)

It’s a good example that there are still great players after 5 so personally not too bothered to slide back if it generates extra players/picks.

It highlights that you still need top 10 picks though. Given we have our #1, it gives us flexibility moving forward to upgrade and downgrade to find players to complement Harley but we're certainly going to need more top 10 picks than Ginbey.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Just a thought with sliding back from 3. If you look at Fremantle’s draft picks with there latest rebuild Brayshaw was there highest pick going at 2. Young was 6, Serong 7 & Amiss 8, Champman 11, & so on.

They never had any help from the AFL unlike some clubs but they have just found the way payers by picking well (It’s hard for me to give any credit to Fremantle)

It’s a good example that there are still great players after 5 so personally not too bothered to slide back if it generates extra players/picks.

Sliding back just seems a pipe dream.

Clubs all seem to be aware of the depth and looking for picks in that 6-14 range. What makes us think that a club will overpay for pick 3 and give us the right combo of picks to make it worthwhile?

Also Freo have won 1 final (and had one season in the finals) since their Prelim appearance in 2015. Lets hang off on giving them credit for a rebuild until they actually make finals, and win some.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

I think Langford has been compared to Bont more often

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Langford is much more like jack macrae IMO .
Tall inside mid with good hands. First half of his career will be fine but his lack of foot speed will make him struggle after 26

 

[mattyc75]

Just a thought with sliding back from 3. If you look at Fremantle’s draft picks with there latest rebuild Brayshaw was there highest pick going at 2. Young was 6, Serong 7 & Amiss 8, Champman 11, & so on.

They never had any help from the AFL unlike some clubs but they have just found the way payers by picking well (It’s hard for me to give any credit to Fremantle)

It’s a good example that there are still great players after 5 so personally not too bothered to slide back if it generates extra players/picks.

Freo have also had a steady stream of players wanting out. Dealing with gold Coast for Weller helped a lot too. Losing cerra turned out to be a blessing too
The eagles haven't had as many players wanting to leave and players like darling aren't going to get you high draft picks

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