List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Corn69]

Ultimate hopium here is that this trade is vetoed first thing in the morning after everyone realises how fu*king stupid it is.

 

[ThePuma #9]

Owies isnt steak knives, we'd have gotten him for free regardless, his inclusion is just to save on paperwork.

Hopefully this is just step one of a bigger plan. Otherwise, I dont understand.

You know we’re truly ****ed when the trade is so bad they’ve broken ep2018 and he’s now being optimistic.

 

[WCEswift]

Matt Owies = Zac Langdon 2.0

no way he cant kick further than zac... right?

 

[WCEswift]

Ultimate hopium here is that this trade is vetoed first thing in the morning after everyone realises how fu*king stupid it is.

They all got drunk and seen it in the morning like the fat chick?

 

[Broken_Chairs]

What I really want to know is whether Owies is the big trade Phil's been working all year on?

 

[TheHumanShoe]

Look, at least this piece of news has brought us all together gaiz.

It wasn't about the players we gained over the trade period, it was about the friends we gained along the way.

Sent from my CPH2451 using Tapatalk

 

[Bacchus]

Nothing yet

Nothing that is publicly known yet, but there is plenty of smoke around.

We all eagerly await tomorrow morning.

 

[MKMatty]

Dear God when I said I hope the club nails it this trade and draft period I didn’t mean nailing us to the foot of the ladder for the next decade.

 

[Coasters7]

I'm gonna take the biggest hit from my copium bong and just say this; perhaps we're looking at a modest haul from this year's draft and banking extra picks into next year coz a certain Swans player has said he wants to come back home and he's our focus. Add multiple NG kids available to us too and perhaps they see the evenness of the top 20 in the draft this year as workable with an eye on next year.

Take a hit.

It’d make sense if we were getting the right value back. 3 for Baker and 12 is horrendous.

Say we get 2 F1s for Barrass and we use one of them and our 2025 pick for Warner.

That leaves us with total income and expenses of

Out: Barrass (Hawks F1, Blues F1), 3, F1

In: Baker (free), Owies (free), Warner, plus the remaining Hawks/Blues F1 .

Thats absolutely terrible business whether we get Warner or not.

Essentially Barrass, 3 and F1 for Warner and 15-18

 

[dajesmac]

How gross is it that Fartmantle land Shai Bolton

15

Shai Bolton

Age

26

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

and pick before us this year?

Half expecting:

Selection 12: West Coast - PASS

 

[archiemoses]

You know Richmond will ask for 12, not 14 and we'll be forced to give it because we've just ****ed our draft hand to get him.

 

[Bender_]

It’d make sense if we were getting the right value back. 3 for Baker and 12 is horrendous.

Say we get 2 F1s for Barrass and we use one of them and our 2025 pick for Warner.

That leaves us with total income and expenses of

Out: Barrass (Hawks F1, Blues F1), 3, F1

In: Baker (free), Owies (free), Warner, plus the remaining Hawks/Blues F1 .

Thats absolutely terrible business whether we get Warner or not.

Essentially Barrass, 3 and F1 for Warner and 15-18

I'm getting the feeling that when you took a hit of the copium that you did not inhale.

 

[Vimal Anand]

Hope your list management don't do this trade

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[Opposite Kids]

I’m actually lost for words…absolute shit show…all we had to do was do nothing…keep pick 3 and Barrass ffs

 

[BartBart]

Surely the AFL have to step in and veto the trade.

 

[WCEswift]

Dear God when I said I hope the club nails it this trade and draft period I didn’t mean nailing us to the foot of the ladder for the next decade.

Or to a cross.... shout out jesus

 

[Seadog]

Christ I looked away for a few hours and all hell broke loose.

If they do that deal…far out.

Clarke should have his head read.

That can’t be true.

Owies?!

I mean, he has shown he can contribute at AFL level but I refuse to believe that he was a deal breaker.

That’s such a laughably bad deal does it eventually come back around and actually pay off like when Collingwood signed Chris Mayne?

Jesus Christ.

Ditto. Was having a good night, finished a DIY project despite my busted rib, had a couple of beers while I cooked a meal, watched a shootem up movie. Had a quick squiz at the trade thread before I bedded down and WHAT THE ACTUAL F#*K

 

[Corn69]

Fu*k Matt Owies, weird looking c*nt.

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Surely the AFL have to step in and veto the trade.

Yeah they love us those guys

 

[Meteoric Rise]

There has to be more elements to this.

Blues trading up to pick 3 and taking a kid doesn't make much sense to me. They need points to match the Camp twins and at the moment have virtually none bar the picks they look like giving the Eagles, 12 & 14. They also have almost no points from next years draft they can trade forward to secure Cody Walker in 2026, and they will almost certainly need to, unless they plan to trade out a valuable player to cover that.

It was reported late today Port just pulled out of the Houston to Collingwood deal, involving Suns, Lukosius and so forth.

Blues are surely angling to end up with Houston, a 2025 rd 1 pick and some points to match the Camp twins.

Eagles will surely want in return for pick 3 - Baker, pick 12(or 14?) and something else, maybe a pick in the 20's, which would seem a more realistic return.

Richmond might go for pick 12 in return for Baker and the pick currently at 24. Tigers may want a bit more back their way.

I am guessing either or both of Port and Suns are going to be involved here.

I wouldn't panic until you see the final wash-up. Matt Clarke is not an idiot.

 

[ronpingwins]

How gross is it that Fartmantle land Shai Bolton and pick before us this year?

Half expecting:

Selection 12: West Coast - PASS

Freo to bid on Champion at 11 is a sneaky chance I reckon.

 

[ronpingwins]

If it’s not Allan at 12 it’s probably Cooper Hynes going by the links with him. Going to start deluding myself into him being the real top pick of the draft that’s been overlooked.

 

[Corkintheocean]

I'm gonna take the biggest hit from my copium bong and just say this; perhaps we're looking at a modest haul from this year's draft and banking extra picks into next year coz a certain Swans player has said he wants to come back home and he's our focus. Add multiple NG kids available to us too and perhaps they see the evenness of the top 20 in the draft this year as workable with an eye on next year.

Take a hit.

Pick it, pack it,
Fire it up, come along
As Warner flees from the Swans

 

[stallon]

There has to be more elements to this.

Blues trading up to pick 3 and taking a kid doesn't make much sense to me. They need points to match the Camp twins and at the moment have virtually none bar the picks they look like giving the Eagles, 12 & 14. They also have almost no points from next years draft they can trade forward to secure Cody Walker in 2026, and they will almost certainly need to, unless they plan to trade out a valuable player to cover that.

It was reported late today Port just pulled out of the Houston to Collingwood deal, involving Suns, Lukosius and so forth.

Blues are surely angling to end up with Houston, a 2025 rd 1 pick and some points to match the Camp twins.

Eagles will surely want in return for pick 3 - Baker, pick 12(or 14?) and something else, maybe a pick in the 20's, which would seem a more realistic return.

Richmond might go for pick 12 in return for Baker and the pick currently at 24. Tigers may want a bit more back their way.

I am guessing either or both of Port and Suns are going to be involved here.

I wouldn't panic until you see the final wash-up. Matt Clarke is not an idiot.

Blues are trading up for pick 3. Theyre not trading up for Houston.
Idk how they get their points, I suspect theyll trade out Kennedy or something to get something to use to match bids

If Carlton are to get pick 3, 12+14+Owies cant be it, thats not enough. But they have no other picks. The tweets from Twomey and Rhino didnt mention any other players being involved, only picks.
Doesnt match up

 

[Kegs15]

Jokes and fake melts aside he's not terrible, and I concur - I just don't see the point in recruiting him. It's baffling.

Feel similarly - it's easy to look at his goals tally and general vibe and think we're getting a 5 years younger Jamie Cripps (which wouldn't be a massive need for us but whatever).

Problem is watching him live he doesn't really do anything other than the 1-2 goals a game. He isn't much of a linkup or posession forward (has never averaged double digit disposals in a season, Cripps on the wane averaged 14.3 this year.) Not a massive forward pressure operator, averages over a tackle less than Cripps across both career average and 2024 average.

Not mega quick, not a marking point of difference like an L.McCarthy. Not a leader or successful player like Graham. Visually watching him he's not someone who makes his teammates better (which is why Carlton aren't resigning him). If we were top 8, sure, sometimes you just need to buy yourself goals, but not a need for us any way you look at it. Wouldn't take him for free.