List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

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Contract status of all players now fully updated

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[Biggie]

As much fun as it was this year, unfortunately the trades we just agreed to made them a stronger team. Aside from losing pick 2, I just don't see the wisdom I'm helping them get JHF when at best we moved sideways.

Our only hope is this man



I have faith

 

[Flarn Rarn]

Seems a fair deal.

Just can't understand why we bothered.

 

[Trouto]

Not sure we will use it this year - 8 12 20 and 26

To use 40, we will have to cut West Witherden Trew and Winder plus move 1 or 2 players to the rookie list

well, now we have plenty of picks to throw away on a whim like we did with Kelly

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Pie Man will be licking his lips at that second and third rounder he's just picked up, thinking he'll trade up with them next year, only to realise it's a SUPER DRAFT so why would someone want to trade down from 20 or whatever.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

NO!

Pick 12 is worthless. I’d be surprised if we even use it.

We should have drafted the guy we want at pick 3, even if he was going to be available later.

The stats show pick 3 has a much higher chance of being an A-grader than pick 8. Even if it’s the same guy.

 

[kerrazy]

 

[Manbearpig77]

We should be going Humphrey/Mackenzie/Philipou/Busslinger at 8.

Ginbey will be there at 12.

 

[TerryFilk]

BOND 007 any chance of shedding some light to why we just ate a s**t sandwich and thanked them for making it for us ?

Is Bond even actually involved with the club lol? I’m fairly new here so I’m genuinely asking, not being a dick.

Sort of seems like there are a lot of “insiders” on this forum

 

[kerrazy]

Someone sack Bond007, he's clearly a double ****ing agent!

 

[Bender_]

Is Bond even actually involved with the club lol? I’m fairly new here so I’m genuinely asking, not being a dick.

Sort of seems like there are a lot of “insiders” on this forum

*mild insiders

 

[Crimson King]

The only saving grace of this shitshow of a season was pick 2 and we have managed to trade that away in an ok deal. Splitting pick 2 should be an outright win for us but we have settled for an ok deal. Blargh.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

GWS without a 3 round pick offer pick 40 and upgrade 26 to 19.
Keep 20 we know pick 19 will be asked for by other clubs as a trade to get the first pick
second night of trade
We may get a offer to good to refuse

 

[TerryFilk]

We should be going Humphrey/Mackenzie/Philipou/Busslinger at 8.

Ginbey will be there at 12.

I agree, but they’ll go Ginbey at 8 and I don’t agree that Ginbey will be there at 12 tbh, he’ll get snapped up 1-2 picks before that

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

GWS without a 3 round pick offer pick 40 and upgrade 26 to 19.
Keep 20 we know pick 19 will be asked for by other clubs as a trade to get the first pick
second night of trade
We may get a offer to good to refuse

We just gave away 40

 

[Tyberious Funk]

Remind me where Neale/Dangerfield/Cripps/Pendlebury were taken.

I have no doubt there are some great finds late in the draft... but your list is an utterly perfect examples of why would shouldn't give up Pick 2.

Neale went at 58... our first pick that year went to... Murray Newman. Followed by Fraser McInnes.
Dangerfield went at 10... we picked up Chris Masten at 3.
Patrick Cripps went at 13... we picked up Dom Sheed at 11.
Scott Pendlebury went at at 5... and you got me there. Our first pick that year was Shannon Hurn at 12.

 

[Trouto]

If our recruiters have come to the conclusion that they could throw a blanket over the top 5-6 picks then our draft hand isn’t that bad.

All of the top 5 touted picks have either deficiencies, injuries or flight risks attached.

Unfortunately as well as quality, we also need quantity to turn our list over too.

With that draft hand we might still edge up a few spots still before draft night


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All I can say is that they better hope that is the case and we dont get burnt... Personally, i have no real faith in our recruitment over the past few years - too easily pushed around

 

[darksquare]

F2 for Rioli - fine.
F3 for 40 - good, 40 was a low priority with the extra pick this year.
8 + 12 for 2 - time will tell.

North have got a reasonable premium out of pick 1 + JHF.
GWS have coughed up a fair bit to get to pick 1.
Port have dodged a bullet.
We've been served a bowl of lukewarm porridge.

 

[bzparkes]

Guys, we clearly have our choices locked in for 8 and 12 already, a la Sheed.

I'm going to assume it's Bock and Gunston.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

The perfect post doesn't exis-

Seems a fair deal.

Just can't understand why we bothered.

 

[Doashuey]

Yes, but this way we get Ginbey and pick 12.

Your way we get Ginbey and possibly another first round pick, or just Ginbey.

Lets be clear- its not my way. Its a logical way in the scenario you put forward..
I doubt very much he is seen by WC as 3rd best and I also doubt that GWS would not trade up a place to get Cadman when they have a plethora of 1st rounders. Or that Hawks or Bombers wouldnt do the same to grab Sheezle. At least one of which will be available at pick 2 (3).

I know your doing you usual devils advocate bullshit just to start an argument but answer this- do you honestly think this deal it looks like we have done has netted us more than what we would be able to get on Draft night?

 

[Byron_Clanger]

The 2022 season, the non stop kick in the nuts

 

[Cursedsword02]

I am not looking at a trade calculator at all - I agree that the points thing is fantasy land.

I'm going off what the draft watchers have said. There is no Judd in this draft. It is pretty even in the top 15 or so. The standouts all have problems:
-Wardlaw: bad hammies, slightly undersized
-Cadman: can't kick straight
- Sheezle: Flight risk and more cream than the player to build a midfield around
-Tsatas: question if he can win his own ball

With this is mind, it makes perfect sense to get two players instead of one.

A lot of people are claiming we should get more for pick 2 - but why would another club want to trade up so desperately in such an even draft? For all we know, GWS is the only one and that is why we got in on the trade (or they would have just traded for pick 1 with North).

Just to add to the players I bolded, Cadman - a KPF - Isn't suited to our needs with our current CHF likely to stick around for a while longer, and Tsatas is more an outside mid than inside and his qualities are already filled by Chesser, Hunt and maybe Hough?

 

[CursoryMercenary]

Oh well if we are shit again next year the dam wall better fall on Nisbett, Simpson and the recruiting staff.

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[SetsSailForHome]

so hypothetically - if the following names were called at our picks -- would everyone be ok ? or still melty ?

8 - Mattaes Phillipou
12 - Elijah Hewitt
20 - Rueben Ginbey
26 - Darcy Jones

 

[Trouto]

Sorry to intrude guys but that deal is so poor.
Pick 2 surely worth more.

not as sorry as us, mate