List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

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Had a look at the Sydney board and they are chasing future 1sts for 14 and 17

Not sure second rounders will cut it even if next year is a stronger draft.
Their list management head (I believe) was on Draft radio earlier.
It seems that trading both picks is only one of the possibilities.
One he did discuss outright was trading one of these picks for a 2nd rounder this year and a 2nd rounder next year.

So, with this in mind maybe one of:
  • Pick 14 for our Pick 20 and Port's 2nd rounder 2023; or
  • Pick 17 for our Pick 26 and Port's 2nd rounder 2023

Don't know how I feel about those trades (as we are probably paying too much), but they would be in the ballpark (although perhaps better offers would be offered to Sydney).
 

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Their list management head (I believe) was on Draft radio earlier.
It seems that trading both picks is only one of the possibilities.
One he did discuss outright was trading one of these picks for a 2nd rounder this year and a 2nd rounder next year.

So, with this in mind maybe one of:
  • Pick 14 for our Pick 20 and Port's 2nd rounder 2023; or
  • Pick 17 for our Pick 26 and Port's 2nd rounder 2023

Don't know how I feel about those trades (as we are probably paying too much), but they would be in the ballpark (although perhaps better offers would be offered to Sydney).
I’d go 14 for 26 & WCE future second. I’d maybe also ask for something back with 14 pick 42 or a future 3rd.

It’s time to be bold.
 
Well I mean it’s most likely we will only have a chance to draft one of those guys you mention, they’ll all be gone by the time our 2nd pick rolls around.

There is a few that will be available, whoever they are. The point I was making would be, why can't we lure Hewett and draft another option?

This is something BODE (Geelong) does so well and we should emulate it.
 
Call me insane, but i am going to back the Pieman in here. I absolutely refuse to believe that he is stupid enough to take anything but the best two midfielders available with our first two picks

Any 2 of Phillipou/Mackenzie/Jye Clark/Hewitt/And Ginbey with our first two picks i can live with

If however, he decides to go say, Buslinger and Allen.........we have a problem

I have long had serious reservations about O'Brien on draft night, but i believe he will get this right

I share this delusion also. Getting ready to melt though


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Fun times. Nobody knows what's happening after pick 4 and beyond thanks to Essendon...

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If dees trade into 4 they will take Humphry and then suns will take ginbey.

Then Hawks and Cats will take tsatas and Clarke either or order.

If dons keep 4 they will take poo, suns take Humphry, Hawks cats as before.

If we then take poo, saint take McKenzie and Hewett will slide to our second. If we take McKenzie, saints will snap up Hewett.






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Their list management head (I believe) was on Draft radio earlier.
It seems that trading both picks is only one of the possibilities.
One he did discuss outright was trading one of these picks for a 2nd rounder this year and a 2nd rounder next year.

So, with this in mind maybe one of:
  • Pick 14 for our Pick 20 and Port's 2nd rounder 2023; or
  • Pick 17 for our Pick 26 and Port's 2nd rounder 2023

Don't know how I feel about those trades (as we are probably paying too much), but they would be in the ballpark (although perhaps better offers would be offered to Sydney).
I can see us doing one of those trades if we have a target like Hewett/Allan/Ginbey still around after we've used our pick 12
 
And if the same is true for Allan?
Good question, but the Eagles have been courting Hewett for a while now, whereas Allen has just shot up into calculations. If we passed on Hewett and took Allen and both were guns... then ok. But if we passed on Hewett to take Allen and Hewett's ceiling proved a lot higher than Allen's there would be a lot more questions then if it was the other way around.

Having said that, I guess the recruiters have a lot of info I don't have.

Personally I would like to see us get both Hewett and Allen.
 
Now whilst Ginbey and Allen aren’t my preferred option should things fall that way, I don’t believe it’s a disaster either. They both have a pretty good upside but not without risk which is why I prefer we only take one

Among other things our midfield lacks size and pace which both those lads have. Ginbey also brings some hardness and aggression to the mix

Together with Chesser, Culley and Hough we would have a group coming through with genuine size and speed

What we would still be lacking is a proven accumulator that can win the ball at the coalface

Hewett if he lasts to 20, or we are willing and able to trade up would complement that group nicely. Otherwise we could look at someone like Szybkowski with our 4th pick as an option
 
Right, back again after some time away.


Only news footy-related that I have heard lately is that interstate flight risk seems to be a much bigger factor in this draft than previous years.


In a draft full of midfielders, east coast sides appear to be preferencing talent that is closer to home.

With Fremantle selling out to get Jackson, it leaves the prospect of local midfield candidates falling into West Coast's hands for a lower than "expected" price.


It's going to be an interesting night - have a feeling this draft is either going to go spectacularly well or infuriatingly poor.


If we end up with the consensus picks from the mock drafts I won't be complaining too much.

Should Mackenzie somehow last to our first pick, I feel we'll be set-up for one of our best draft hauls ever.
 
Now whilst Ginbey and Allen aren’t my preferred option should things fall that way, I don’t believe it’s a disaster either. They both have a pretty good upside but not without risk which is why I prefer we only take one

Among other things our midfield lacks size and pace which both those lads have. Ginbey also brings some hardness and aggression to the mix

Together with Chesser, Culley and Hough we would have a group coming through with genuine size and speed

What we would still be lacking is a proven accumulator that can win the ball at the coalface

Hewett if he lasts to 20, or we are willing and able to trade up would complement that group nicely. Otherwise we could look at someone like Szybkowski with our 4th pick as an option
I am probably bracing for you prediction on day 1.

Day 2 will then define us. If we managed Hewett or Burgiel at 20, it makes up for it with a balanced proven mid. No speculation with either. We might even get both with 20 and 26
 

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Now whilst Ginbey and Allen aren’t my preferred option should things fall that way, I don’t believe it’s a disaster either. They both have a pretty good upside but not without risk which is why I prefer we only take one

Rumours might be complete bulltish and we have no interest in either.
But if they rumours of our interest are accurate, it suggests we're putting a lot of emphasis on athleticism. Possibly what we're predicting will be important characteristics for footballers in the future.

That being true, just gotta trust we're making the right call.
 
Their list management head (I believe) was on Draft radio earlier.
It seems that trading both picks is only one of the possibilities.
One he did discuss outright was trading one of these picks for a 2nd rounder this year and a 2nd rounder next year.

So, with this in mind maybe one of:
  • Pick 14 for our Pick 20 and Port's 2nd rounder 2023; or
  • Pick 17 for our Pick 26 and Port's 2nd rounder 2023

Don't know how I feel about those trades (as we are probably paying too much), but they would be in the ballpark (although perhaps better offers would be offered to Sydney).

I'd only want 14 for 26 and Port's second rounder next year, if Hewett is sitting there at 14 ready to be picked.

Don't want to give up Ports second rounder to move up 6 spots this year.
 


Going to be interesting to see what Essendon get if they do end up trading pick 4 tonight

As someone who was happy to do our trade for 8 and 12 in the belief we weren’t likely to get better, an Essendon trade would provide clarity on what we might have got had we held on
 
I'd only want 14 for 26 and Port's second rounder next year, if Hewett is sitting there at 14 ready to be picked.

Don't want to give up Ports second rounder to move up 6 spots this year.
Yeah, what you suggest is preferred.
But Sydney has put it out there as a trade option and so I think both picks will be hotly contested property tonight, hence why we might have to pay overs should we want to get a further pick towards the latter half of the first round.

But think, we could get Vontae Mack, Ray Jennings as well as David Putney all in one draft.
 


Going to be interesting to see what Essendon get if they do end up trading pick 4 tonight

As someone who was happy to do our trade for 8 and 12 in the belief we weren’t likely to get better, an Essendon trade would provide clarity on what we might have got had we held on


Going to be hilarious if they get more for 4 than what we got for 2

I have made peace with trading that pick, but I think I’ll melt if we did that trade just to take Ginbey and Allan
 


Going to be interesting to see what Essendon get if they do end up trading pick 4 tonight

As someone who was happy to do our trade for 8 and 12 in the belief we weren’t likely to get better, an Essendon trade would provide clarity on what we might have got had we held on

Humphrey being taken at 4 is good for us.
It pushes Ginbey as a very good chance for Gold Coast to pick at selection 5 and Tsatas at selection 6 to the Hawks.
 
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