List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[CountryLad]

so are we taking curtin at pick 2?

No we should be taking Reid at pick one otherwise being as shit as we are being is a complete disaster if it’s already not.

 

[EagleEgo]

See who is doing more "McNamara run" or "Cunnington kick" in the Tasmania R10 game, but I assume Hawthorn don‘t want to lose in Tasmania.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Hawthorn got their head in front for the Harley Reid cup.
I suspect a lot of Hawthorn injury and soreness before the Tasmanian game. They are pretty keen.
NM still a dark horse.

Can’t believe we managed to lose by 46 points and go up the ladder

 

[bzparkes]

Can’t believe we managed to lose by 46 points and go up the ladder

That's just how good we are.

Get up, it's game day flogs.

 

[marhalls hawks]

Hawthorn got their head in front for the Harley Reid cup.
I suspect a lot of Hawthorn injury and soreness before the Tasmanian game. They are pretty keen.
NM still a dark horse.

I can’t agree more

 

[Mulldogg]

In all seriousness, how much of our list can we turn over between delistings and retirements?

How much trade capital do we have to attract a few 22 to 25 year old players from other clubs ? That is an age cohort where our list is desperately lacking.

Shuey, Hurn, Trew, Winder, XON, Foley, Clark and West should all be gone at years end. Maybe a couple of others depending on contract status or willingness to take an early payout (looking at you Nic).

Looking like it is going to be a major list upheaval at the end of the season; which can’t come soon enough the way we’re going.

 

[Coasters7]

It’s looking More and more like round 10 is going to be the Harley Reid cup. Can’t wait to see how many players are injured and rested for that one

You won’t need to wait. We’ll likely be fielding the only 22 players we have available

 

[Godfather32]

That's just how good we are.

Get up, it's game day flogs.

*Floggo's

 

[Dark Sharks]

In all seriousness, how much of our list can we turn over between delistings and retirements?

How much trade capital do we have to attract a few 22 to 25 year old players from other clubs ? That is an age cohort where our list is desperately lacking.

Shuey, Hurn, Trew, Winder, XON, Foley, Clark and West should all be gone at years end. Maybe a couple of others depending on contract status or willingness to take an early payout (looking at you Nic).

Looking like it is going to be a major list upheaval at the end of the season; which can’t come soon enough the way we’re going.

Depends on A lot of factors.

A) Who we've got to bring in, from what trades

B) What picks we end up with after the trade period.


As much as I'd love to piss the entire deadwood wafl brigade plus a couple oldies off, I'm inclined to think we won't be paying out anyone early (Naitanui, Rotham).

If we don't find someone to trade up our picks with and we end up with 4 good picks and 3 trash picks, that might save someone. 5 good picks might not.

What happens with trades? Dev coming in means someone else gets cut. Dev staying at Brisbane means someone is safe. Likewise Georgiades.


As it stands, personally I'm quite happy to part ways with as many of Xon, West, Trew, Winder, Clark, Rotham, Foley, Petrucelle, Edwards, SPS, Naitanui, Shuey and Hurn as we can.

Daresay it'll be 8 at most.

 

[archiemoses]

Glass and Emac's early years weren't pretty

 

[dinnaz]

Glass and Emac's early years weren't pretty

Mistakes yes, showed a lot though.

 

[Free Agent]

Please don't split the pick all in for Reid please

Reid for us will go down to what happens in round 10 against the Hawks.

It really will be the Reid cup that match.

 

[ziad]

The trade option has passed us. 2-3 playes of trade value are absolute structural essentials to keep. Barrass is one possibility but that wil never happen.

The draft with minor trades will take 3 seasons for us to emetge as a threat. We must trade in real quality not pick 8-15 type quality.

Of the player we fielded yesterday (kids aside) who would get a game in a competative AFL team? Allen, Kelly, Barrass and perhaps Sheed. The reality is the others are WAFL standard. The tragidy is tey when the play WAFL they dont dominate, the may make the Beagles best 5 and have fan boys salivating but they are way short of being the BOG.

Simmo is on the money - we are not good enough and must go to the draft.

 

[Nuffington Post]

The trade option has passed us. 2-3 playes of trade value are absolute structural essentials to keep. Barrass is one possibility but that wil never happen.

The draft with minor trades will take 3 seasons for us to emetge as a threat. We must trade in real quality not pick 8-15 type quality.

Of the player we fielded yesterday (kids aside) who would get a game in a competative AFL team? Allen, Kelly, Barrass and perhaps Sheed. The reality is the others are WAFL standard. The tragidy is tey when the play WAFL they dont dominate, the may make the Beagles best 5 and have fan boys salivating but they are way short of being the BOG.

Simmo is on the money - we are not good enough and must go to the draft.

We’re in for a painful couple of years but just need to keep calm and draft. Don’t do a Freo and trade 3 x first rounders for a key forward that goes bust. Bring in guys who won’t cost much trade wise or free agents.

We could attempt to trade guys like Gaff, Gov or Darling but don’t think we would get much more than a future fourth. Anyone who has value (Allen, Barrass, Ryan) we need to keep. I would suggest trading Kelly but the only team he would go to is Freo and they have no trade capital (especially for midfielders).

 

[Evo47]

SQUADS | Young Guns set for Metro test

The annual Victorian Young Guns series is set to get underway on Sunday. We preview game one against Vic Metro's U18s.

central.rookieme.com

Might be a decent watch for those interested, starts at 9am WST.

Vic Metro vs Young Guns (Overagers)

 

[boondy]

Depends on A lot of factors.

A) Who we've got to bring in, from what trades

B) What picks we end up with after the trade period.


As much as I'd love to piss the entire deadwood wafl brigade plus a couple oldies off, I'm inclined to think we won't be paying out anyone early (Naitanui, Rotham).

If we don't find someone to trade up our picks with and we end up with 4 good picks and 3 trash picks, that might save someone. 5 good picks might not.

What happens with trades? Dev coming in means someone else gets cut. Dev staying at Brisbane means someone is safe. Likewise Georgiades.


As it stands, personally I'm quite happy to part ways with as many of Xon, West, Trew, Winder, Clark, Rotham, Foley, Petrucelle, Edwards, SPS, Naitanui, Shuey and Hurn as we can.

Daresay it'll be 8 at most.

Winder ,Trew, Clark, Edwards ,West ,Xon, Rotham, Petrucelle, Foley
In delist order

 

[eagles rule]

SQUADS | Young Guns set for Metro test

The annual Victorian Young Guns series is set to get underway on Sunday. We preview game one against Vic Metro's U18s.

central.rookieme.com

Might be a decent watch for those interested, starts at 9am WST.

Vic Metro vs Young Guns (Overagers)

is the game broadcast on AFL site ?

 

[WCErevival]

We could easily get rid of 10 guys. Winder, Trew and West are rookies so dont impact the main list. Culley should get promoted to.

 

[Godfather32]

Glass and Emac's early years weren't pretty

Rotham's 25....Glass was 19/20 playing a fair chunk of his first and second seasons after being drafted. Emac was a year or two older than that when he came good.
Rotham should be in his prime right now.

 

[boondy]

SQUADS | Young Guns set for Metro test

The annual Victorian Young Guns series is set to get underway on Sunday. We preview game one against Vic Metro's U18s.

central.rookieme.com

Might be a decent watch for those interested, starts at 9am WST.

Vic Metro vs Young Guns (Overagers)

Trevor Barker Beach Oval where they are playing has water splashing as they run and ball splashes when it hits the ground

 

[Godfather32]

Trevor Barker Beach Oval where they are playing has water splashing as they run and ball splashes when it hits the ground

That's what they get for playing on the beach I guess

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Rotham's 25....Glass was 19/20 playing a fair chunk of his first and second seasons after being drafted. Emac was a year or two older than that when he came good.
Rotham should be in his prime right now.

Rotham looked great taking unopposed marks yesterday and everyone will remember his uncontested drop that led to a goal and say oh it was just one bad moment in a good game.

The more telling moment for me was a Richmond goal in the third quarter I can’t remember who but it came in deep to a contest, spilled and Richmond player ran through the contest with eyes for the ball picked up the ball and snapped the goal from about 15m out. Rotham was sitting loose and just watched the goal kicker run past him through that contest choosing not to go in as well.

I’d have taken the gif of this but I deleted by droplr subscription because Alesana does a far better job with the footage.

He wants the easy ball and isn’t willing to do the hard things to compete. As far as I’m concerned anyone repeatedly showing this attitude needs to be shown the door.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Rotham and still having a contract for 2024

Huge tick for list management that one.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Senior list

Out (7)
Retired: Hurn, Shuey, Naitanui
Delisted: Clark, Foley, XON
Delist and rerookie: Jilliams

In (7)
Culley elevated
Five ND picks
One random trade (Ruscoe or Brockman or someone)

Rookie list:
Out
Culley elevated
West, Winder, Trew delisted

In:
One MSD pick (Maric? Teal? Gilbey?) retained, plus the Cat Bs.
Jilliams re-rookied
Two RD picks

That’s where I’m at currently.

 

[boondy]

Rotham and still having a contract for 2024

Huge tick for list management that one.

Georgiades trade bait