List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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[Keys]

Feels like a guy we wanted got passed over for Foley. Was it Valente??

Valente went the pick after

There were only 2 picks between O’Neill and Foley - Will Kelly to Collingwood as a F/S and Will Hamill to Adelaide

James Jordon was taken the pick after Valente

 

[Priddis Is Done]

What does one expect of a 18 yr old bottom age ruck in their 1st year?

Intent? Purpose. Engaged. Work ethic. Even if they get smashed.

I have no idea if he does./ doesn't.

 

[ZergMinion]

Aside from Foley who's a small defender, the rest of our expected cull will make us very light for mids/hff on the depth chart.

This is a good draft for talls apparently, but we've only lost/losing one this year (Naitanui), so I'd expect us to draft/trade in 1-2 talls max to avoid totally unbalancing our list.

 

[Forward Press]

Valente went the pick after

There were only 2 picks between O’Neill and Foley - Will Kelly to Collingwood as a F/S and Will Hamill to Adelaide

James Jordon was taken the pick after Valente

Yeah I remember those days - not long after winning a flag there was a lot of rage at us picking the lesser Luke.

Turns out both didn't really cut it.

 

[Coasters7]

I can't even picture what Foley looks like.

Was always going to be delisted.

Was also an absolute nothing pick to begin with iirc. Can’t remember too many being happy with picking him up at the time. Although Valente was probably the consensus pick and he’s done just as little.

We did trade back from a pick that would’ve landed us Bobby Hill or Rowbottom to reach on O’Neill and get Williams though.

Could have ended up with Hill/Rowbottom and Williams without the trade. Hindsight is 20/20 of course but O’Neill and Foley were both nothing picks at the time and are delist fodder 4 years later which has surprised no one. Whilst Hill looks to be a key player in a potential premiership side and Rowbottom is a gun

 

[Forward Press]

Was also an absolute nothing pick to begin with iirc. Can’t remember too many being happy with picking him up at the time. Although Valente was probably the consensus pick at the time and he’s done just as little.

Not even just as little - 0 AFL games and delisted.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Was also an absolute nothing pick to begin with iirc. Can’t remember too many being happy with picking him up at the time. Although Valente was probably the consensus pick and he’s done just as little.

We did trade back from a pick that would’ve landed us Bobby Hill or Rowbottom to reach on O’Neill and get Williams though.

Could have ended up with Hill/Rowbottom and Williams without the trade. Hindsight is 20/20 of course but O’Neill and Foley were both nothing picks at the time and are delist fodder 4 years later which has surprised no one. Whilst Hill looks to be a key player in a potential premiership side and Rowbottom is a gun

This is why I'm so wary of splitting Pick 19. The pick used on Foley is exactly the type of "bonus" pick we'd get for downgrading.

If we do anything I hope it's to somehow move up the draft order (while keeping Pick 1), not move down.

 

[Lia]

A little bit surprised that Foley was the first domino but my thoughts are similar to most, he showed bits and pieces particularly in 2021 but generally speaking he wasn't good enough for long enough.

 

[ZergMinion]

Yeah I remember those days - not long after winning a flag there was a lot of rage at us picking the lesser Luke.

Turns out both didn't really cut it.

I have this memory of the Freo table looking really annoyed that we took Foley too.

 

[Bacchus]

Was also an absolute nothing pick to begin with iirc. Can’t remember too many being happy with picking him up at the time. Although Valente was probably the consensus pick and he’s done just as little.

We did trade back from a pick that would’ve landed us Bobby Hill or Rowbottom to reach on O’Neill and get Williams though.

Could have ended up with Hill/Rowbottom and Williams without the trade. Hindsight is 20/20 of course but O’Neill and Foley were both nothing picks at the time and are delist fodder 4 years later which has surprised no one. Whilst Hill looks to be a key player in a potential premiership side and Rowbottom is a gun

The folly of downgrading a pick for two later ones. It’s not always smart.

Quantity over quality not always the best policy. It has to be done judiciously.

I am happy at this stage with Hewett and Ginbey.

Though this year I am definitely on the Harley Reid train.

 

[RookiePick]

Where the af did those 5 years go?

Jesus.

Thanks Axl. Shame it didn't work out. Good luck for the future.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Didn’t do too well out of the 2018 draft, assuming XON is also going that’d leave just Williams (#35) and Edwards (RD) from that draft class.

Not great considering we ended up taking four players inside the top 40.

 

[noobermensch]

Although conceding the height advantage to his opponent, ZZ came out on Top in his ruck battle against Coen Livingston, winning the hit outs and exerting more influence around the ground.

 

[Keys]

Didn’t do too well out of the 2018 draft, assuming XON is also going that’d leave just Williams (#35) and Edwards (RD) from that draft class.

Not great considering we ended up taking four players inside the top 40.

It wasn’t a great draft though, especially after pick 20

Some good picks up the top and Port picked the eyes out of it with Rozee and Butters but for the most part it’s pretty grim reading

 

[eaglevision]

Didn’t do too well out of the 2018 draft, assuming XON is also going that’d leave just Williams (#35) and Edwards (RD) from that draft class.

Not great considering we ended up taking four players inside the top 40.

It was a shocker for us. Especially after the massive stitch up we gave Gold Coast for picks.

 

[JackOutback]

I can't even picture what Foley looks like.

Was always going to be delisted.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

It was a shocker for us. Especially after the massive stitch up we gave Gold Coast for picks.

The stitch up was the year before and was the reason we didn’t have a first rounder. I’m

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

I expect the delisting's to be slightly less. Maybe around 6. Meaning we have 9 list spots to fill.

ROB has stated publicly the club is intending to take 4 picks to the national draft.

That leaves us with 5 to fill. We realistically bring in 2 from other clubs - Robertson, Brockman, Ruck.

Leaves us with 3 to fill. 2 rookie spots.

Hold 1 pick over for Mid Season or Just before season.

That excludes NGA picks though

 

[Ghossein]

Don't really understand this drip feeding of delistings, we all know they're going to go.

 

[Ghossein]

I expect the delisting's to be slightly less. Maybe around 6. Meaning we have 9 list spots to fill.

ROB has stated publicly the club is intending to take 4 picks to the national draft.

That leaves us with 5 to fill. We realistically bring in 2 from other clubs - Robertson, Brockman, Ruck.

Leaves us with 3 to fill. 2 rookie spots.

Hold 1 pick over for Mid Season or Just before season.

Culley will be promoted to the seniors too

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Although conceding the height advantage to his opponent, ZZ came out on Top in his ruck battle against Coen Livingston, winning the hit outs and exerting more influence around the ground.

Would love him as a athletic cheap CHB has very good speed for a big guy

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Always wanted to see Foley make it.
Must feel bad to be the first one cut.
Thought they would cut multiple players at one go.

 

[JackOutback]

Always wanted to see Foley make it.
Must feel bad to be the first one cut.
Thought they would cut multiple players at one go.

Gotta give them all their moment in the spotlight.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Culley will be promoted to the seniors too

Possibly not, if he’s only signing for one more year.

 

[Eddie_Sandbrah]

Depends what his positive traits are.

He's got a good hairdresser.