List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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[eaglevision]

I don't think Curtin has it in him to play midfield. Should be dominating in a game like this where he is a lot bigger then his opponents. He has a huge lack of quick burst pace for midfielder and struggles to impact.

Will be a long term development as I've always thought that from what I'm seeing. At AFL level he won't play for 3 years at a minimum before he builds enough fitness to impact and if his key defender will need to bulk up to match key forwards strength. 3 years before you see anything from him.

I'm comfortable with drafting Reid more then ever now.

I rate Curtin but Reid was bursting away from grown men in the VFL for teams he’d never played with with ruckmen he’d never roved to. Absolute no brainer.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Genuinely can’t believe he had the audacity to turn down a 2 year deal lol.

Thought he only got offered 1 year? I may be mistaken

 

[bzparkes]

Thought he only got offered 1 year? I may be mistaken

Wanted 4

 

[Jed Clampet]

Thought he only got offered 1 year? I may be mistaken

2 years less money

 

[Eddie_Sandbrah]

Genuinely can’t believe he had the audacity to turn down a 2 year deal lol.

I don't have an issue with him as a player, but he's fringe, and Maric is a better option. 2 years on f-all is a generous offer. I can't see him getting more than 2 years anywhere else.

 

[triplegee]

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[RookiePick]

Bold strategy from the Snake.

Might find himself without a home at all imo.

 

[Goroyals22]

Great news imo.

Play on constant repeat

 

[bzparkes]

Bold strategy from the Snake.

Might find himself without a home at all imo.

Surely wouldn't look at a trade unless there was interest?

Unless he goes the full Mitch Brown.

 

[Free Agent]

I rate Curtin but Reid was bursting away from grown men in the VFL for teams he’d never played with with ruckmen he’d never roved to. Absolute no brainer.

I think he will eventually become alright player but I'm just seeing long long term in him.

He won't be playing AFL next season or probably the year after. Doesn't have the fitness for midfield at AFL level. His struggling for breath and pace at Colts level.

And defenders always take at least three years before seeing them.

3 year of dwildering is just enough time to get him back home on the cheap.

 

[bzparkes]

I think he will eventually become alright player but I'm just seeing long long term in him.

He won't be playing AFL next season or probably the year after. Doesn't have the fitness for midfield at AFL level. His struggling for breath and pace at Colts level.

And defenders always take at least three years before seeing them.

3 year of dwildering is just enough time to get him back home on the cheap.

If he gets to North, he'll 100% play seniors in defence next season.

They don't have much else.

 

[bzparkes]

Ballard BOG so far, surely?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

 

[Spange]

Thanks Captain.

We get 11 games at home where the other team has to travel to us. That give us a huge home ground advantage for half the games and a huge disadvantage for the half the games. Vic clubs get not much advantage and disadvantage when playing other Melbourne teams, big advantage playing interstate teams at home, big disadvantage when playing away. So that whole part evens up until it gets to the GF. And given there's only 1 stadium in the country that fits 100k people, there's not much we can do about that.

As for travel wear and tear? Sure, but did you miss the part of about 4 premierships (the second most), as well as 1x 300 game player, and potentially Darling and Gaff hit that mark too?

Sounds like you're complaining about being successful.

Why should a stadium fitting 100k mcc members be the deciding factor of who hosts a grand final?

Why should four flags and being moderately successful since inception mean we cannot be aided with benefits offered to other clubs. We might have added another 1 or 2 premierships to what has been a well run club historically.

 

[new breed]

If you dont ask , you don't get !

Good he stays ..

 

[eaglevision]

2 years is fine. 3 was too much.

 

[TerryFilk]

I should have known better than to get excited about a Mitchell Woodcock report lol.

 

[bzparkes]

Lol, must've made a quick trip down to Brighton Bakery and sent the Pieman a gift.

Or, it's just a beat-up from the West and he'd already agreed to terms with WCE.

 

[Keys]

This week old mate stickdick has written about WCE warning employees they faced the sack if they played for another club. In that article it was mentioned Alec Waterman was considering moving back to Claremont placing his off field role at West Coast in jeopardy

Now he’s writing about stalled negotiations on Jake’s contract

Not hard to work out who’s feeding him stories

If nothing else it shows a harder edge in negotiations which could be argued was overdue

That said I’d still like to see Waterman retained provided it’s no longer than a 2 year deal

 

[Eddie_Sandbrah]

Why should a stadium fitting 100k mcc members be the deciding factor of who hosts a grand final?

Right, so you're one of those types.

Why should four flags and being moderately successful since inception mean we cannot be aided with benefits offered to other clubs. We might have added another 1 or 2 premierships to what has been a well run club historically.

moderate

adjective

/ˈmɒd(ə)rət/

1. average in amount, intensity, quality, or degree.

We've been in the AFL for 36 years. There are 18 teams. That means a moderate amount of premierships is around the 2 mark.

We've won 4.

Shut up.

 

[Free Agent]

If he gets to North, he'll 100% play seniors in defence next season.

They don't have much else.

Most forwards in the AFL would wipe the floor with him. Curtin would have 10 kicked on him every week. Imagine Oscar Allen playing on Curtin. He'd have a field day.

Tall key defenders take time unlike quick small defenders like Sheezel.
If they put Curtin half back flank his pace would be a major issue with quick forwards running off him.

2025 at the very minimum. Be nuts to play him as a key back being that raw next season.

 

[UseR2006]

Curtin and ZZ top disposal winners at Half time.

 

[Goroyals22]

2 years is fine. 3 was too much.

The market mustn’t have been as good as he thought. He should have one year with an option of two.


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[Monocle]

ZZ is very impressive.

O Driscoll also suring his stocks up with a late pick in the draft, speed and endurance are a rare combination.

 

[Eddie_Sandbrah]

The market mustn’t have been as good as he thought. He should have one year with an option of two.


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I think he thought he had arrived. But he's just filler.