List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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SSP signing dates

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• Monday, November 25, 2024 – Thursday, December 19, 2024
• Monday, January 13, 2025 – Friday, February 21, 2025

Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

[eaglevision]

You said you dont agree with Shanahan spending ALL his development years as a defender.

Hence why it was highlighted.

Who has suggested that? He spends ALL his development years in defense?

No-one. Why? Because it's taking an assumption to an extreme which extremely unlikely to happen.

It's like me saying Harley spending ALL his development years playing only forward. That just isn't happening and to infer others are saying that is disengenuous.

Right so if Shanahan plays KPD at AFL level early and excels, you reckon we then keep drafting KPDs and switch him to KPF? Or do you reckon he stays as a KPD and is developed as such long term?

 

[Obeanie1]

Right so if Shanahan plays KPD at AFL level early and excels, you reckon we then keep drafting KPDs and switch him to KPF? Or do you reckon he stays as a KPD and is developed as such long term?

If he turns into Gov and our forward line is working fine he stays back. Pretty logical.

Maybe he becomes our next Hunter swing tall. Both players were instrumental in winning premierships were they not?

And your problem with that is what exactly?

We have more tall forwards than we need and not enough quality tall defenders. So what if Shanahan becomes our next multi winning All Australian CHB.

 

[eaglevision]

If he turns into Gov and our forward line is working fine he stays back. Pretty logical.

Maybe he becomes our next Hunter swing tall. Both players were instrumental in winning premierships were they not?

And your problem with that is what exactly?

We have more tall forwards than we need and not enough quality tall defenders. So what if Shanahan becomes our next multi winning All Australian CHB.

My problem with that is exactly what you’re overlooking. His ceiling as a KPF. IMO it’s higher than Oscar, Jake, Darling and every other recent KPF we’ve drafted other than Kennedy, and even that is comparable.

You’re perfectly within your rights to not share that view and that’s fine, but don’t tell me it’s wrong to want this 18 year old to play and be developed as a KPF just because we currently have two good ones that are about to turn 26 and 27 in the next few months, one with significant injury issues and a big question mark on his ability to have a long career.

 

[WCE777]

If he turns into Gov and our forward line is working fine he stays back. Pretty logical.

Maybe he becomes our next Hunter swing tall. Both players were instrumental in winning premierships were they not?

And your problem with that is what exactly?

We have more tall forwards than we need and not enough quality tall defenders. So what if Shanahan becomes our next multi winning All Australian CHB.

100%
I have only been on this platform a short time and find it very informative and generally very open about all thing AFL/WC.
I also thought this was a discussion forum about all things to do with AFL/WC and insights, intel, opinions and great discussion about our great club and all things to do with it.
It should be an open discussion, insights, intel and a great place to exchange ideas, I am not any more right than the next person and they are not more right than the many views on here, that's why its a discussion forum.
Look forward to more lively debate and discussion.

 

[Obeanie1]

My problem with that is exactly what you’re overlooking. His ceiling as a KPF. IMO it’s higher than Oscar, Jake, Darling and every other recent KPF we’ve drafted other than Kennedy, and even that is comparable.

You’re perfectly within your rights to not share that view and that’s fine, but don’t tell me it’s wrong to want this 18 year old to play and be developed as a KPF just because we currently have two good ones that are about to turn 26 and 27 in the next few months, one with significant injury issues and a big question mark on his ability to have a long career.

He may end up forward sure. He may end up a top shelf forward.

But that very likely wont happen early with Allen, Waterman and J Williams fit and in form.

You hold no concerns letting him develop in the WAFL for 2 seasons as a forward and then watching an oppo club poach him?

Players want to play at the top level not WAFL. Opposition clubs know that.

And I'm not overlooking anything. If the kid looks like becoming the next JK or Franklin he goes forward in a couple of years time. If the choice is JK at CHB or FF you put them forward.

But if we need a tall in defense now then throw him in there and let him gain experience at the highest level. That's how you retain and develop quality kids.

Thoughts on Dogs moving Lobb from forward to defense?

Alistair Lynch started as a CHB and end up a premiership FF.

 

[WCE777]

My problem with that is exactly what you’re overlooking. His ceiling as a KPF. IMO it’s higher than Oscar, Jake, Darling and every other recent KPF we’ve drafted other than Kennedy, and even that is comparable.

You’re perfectly within your rights to not share that view and that’s fine, but don’t tell me it’s wrong to want this 18 year old to play and be developed as a KPF just because we currently have two good ones that are about to turn 26 and 27 in the next few months, one with significant injury issues and a big question mark on his ability to have a long career.

your very prolific on this site and I like your input and insight.
I will offer my opinion again.
The KP talls at either end of the ground we have on our list are very good, and the bevy of KP players on our list are super exciting and even more exciting than our KPF we have.
We have in the FWD line Oscar, Jake, JW and developing Archer and Shanahan.
We have in he KDEF line Gov who has maybe 2 years left, Edwards who has yet to solidify his position, Bazzo who has had a bad run of injuries, maybe Maric who looks like he is training with the backs, we are very thin on the ground for KDEF players to take the next step.
I hope they all work out and we have a great KDEF line after Gov is gone but the evidence so far is we are short on quality and in need of more KDEF options.
This is why 1 of Archer and Shanahan most likely will need to develop as a KDEF option going forward, I don't know which one it will be but having options is a great problem to have in our KP stocks.
May the best player win their position and develop into the next generation of KP players at WC.

 

[eaglevision]

But that very likely wont happen early with Allen, Waterman and J Williams fit and in form.

You hold no concerns letting him develop in the WAFL for 2 seasons as a forward and then watching an oppo club poach him?

Players want to play at the top level not WAFL. Opposition clubs know that.

But if we need a tall in defense now then throw him in there and let him gain experience at the highest level. That's how you retain and develop quality kids.

Thoughts on Dogs moving Lobb from forward to defense?

You could make that statement about fitness and form about any club in the comp. If the incumbents have both then the kids don’t play, sure nothing groundbreaking. Jake has played one class season out of eight and Oscar struggles to stay on the park and has issues moving forwards. Very confident there will be opportunity for him in the forward line.

Also very confident WCE did their diligence about potential flight risk and had plenty of other options at pick 30 if that was an issue so no I don’t have concerns he’ll get poached.

No problem if his body is ready and form demands it that he fill in as a defender, but don’t want him developed there when he comes back to WAFL.

Lobb is a proven rubbish forward, so he was trialled elsewhere. Fine with that.

 

[WCE777]

Corey Warner wins Sydney 2km time trial

 

[eaglevision]

Corey Warner wins Sydney 2km time trial

Gotta be the first time in a while that a 2km time trial has been won by a set of steak knives.

 

[WCE777]

Gotta be the first time in a while that a 2km time trial has been won by a set of steak knives.

at least he has endurance and speed, would have hoped Petch would be this for WC but not to be

 

[Mr Q]

Gotta be the first time in a while that a 2km time trial has been won by a set of steak knives.

If we get steak knives in a deal like the last lot of steak knives, I'll be more than happy with it.

(to be fair, Carlton's steak knives here turned out more useful that you'd normally expect too)

 

[WCE777]

If we get steak knives in a deal like the last lot of steak knives, I'll be more than happy with it.

(to be fair, Carlton's steak knives here turned out more useful that you'd normally expect too)View attachment 2200605

like it
Lock it in, the steak knives in the trade for Chad!
Perfect replacement for what was meant to be when we drafted Petch?

 

[chaddy22]

He may end up forward sure. He may end up a top shelf forward.

But that very likely wont happen early with Allen, Waterman and J Williams fit and in form.

You hold no concerns letting him develop in the WAFL for 2 seasons as a forward and then watching an oppo club poach him?

Players want to play at the top level not WAFL. Opposition clubs know that.

And I'm not overlooking anything. If the kid looks like becoming the next JK or Franklin he goes forward in a couple of years time. If the choice is JK at CHB or FF you put them forward.

But if we need a tall in defense now then throw him in there and let him gain experience at the highest level. That's how you retain and develop quality kids.

Thoughts on Dogs moving Lobb from forward to defense?

Alistair Lynch started as a CHB and end up a premiership FF.

As the taco ad says why not both. Hunter used to switch between both back and forward.
I have the feeling this year we may need some cover. Maybe Allan might have to go back at times.

 

[chaddy22]

Gotta be the first time in a while that a 2km time trial has been won by a set of steak knives.

But wait there's more! we get Chad warner as well.

 

[WCE777]

But wait there's more! we get Chad warner as well.

that's a pretty good set of steak knives!!

 

[beagles]

Shite, Bazzo's gone for a while

Surgery for luckless defender after foot injury

West Coast defender Rhett Bazzo has undergone surgery after yet another injury blow for the luckless Eagle.

www.perthnow.com.au