List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2021 offseason edition

[Keys]

So the 2021 season is officially done and dusted.

It’s time now to fully turn our attention to the off season and what we can do through the trade period/draft to chase down Melbourne in 2022.

List and personnel changes have already been made and I’ll update this OP as and when any further changes are made.

As it stands these are our official list changes :

Out -
• Venables (R) - retired
• Vardy - retired
• Hutchings (R) - delisted
• Ah Chee (R) - delisted
• Ainsworth - delisted
• Johnson - delisted
• Collins (R) - delisted
• Brander - cluster****
• Cameron - retired/delisted not that it was officially acknowledged by the club
• Sheppard - retired

Inactive listed -
• Cole
• Chesser

In -
• Petrevski-Seton - traded for pick 52
• Chesser - Pick 14
• Hough - Pick 31
• Bazzo - Pick 37
• Williams (Jack) - Pick 57
• Clark - Pick 62
• Dixon - SSP
• Joyce - SSP
• Strnadica - SSP
• Naish - SSP

Players on main list - 37 (Including 2 inactive)
Players on rookie list - 7

Future trade picks :
In - Port Adelaide future 2nd
Out - Future 4th

Assistant Coaches :
• Out - Graham, Hickmott
• In - Schofield (Strategy and Stoppage), Knights (Midfield), Wiley (WAFL coach), Brennan (development)

Link to contract status of all players -

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R) Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Current contract status (Updated 18/10/24) : Total 39 Players -...

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[FKASC]

I know you're taking the piss, unsure if you've seen this article anyway:

There’s something in the water in Halls Creek

Halls Creek, a town of less than 100 people in outback Western Australia, is developing a strong reputation for producing AFL and AFLW talent.

www.aflplayers.com.au

I wasn’t taking the piss actually. Hadn’t really put much thought into it

 

[Bender_]

I wasn’t taking the piss actually. Hadn’t really put much thought into it

Oh thought you were going the whole "screwing over" joke.

 

[Eagle Wrath]

Read that there has been interest for Jake Waterman from Paul Peos (manager)

This is any interesting one!

Personally I rate Jake but he's been the victim of the land of the giants up forward, but doesn't have the versatility to play on a wing.

We can't go into another year of JK, JD, OA plus a resting ruckman ( most likely Williams). Can't hurt his development like Brander

In that case, do we cash in and us 35 plus Jake to get a pick in the first round?

Otherwise, maybe its best if JK retires for the good of the clubs future.

JD, OA and Jake with Rioli and Ryan. Is still a very good forward line

You would think there would be a fair bit of interest in Jake. He could easily be a full forward or CHF for some sides, or just a 3rd tall up forward for them. Hope we cash in and get a decent pick.

 

[jaxxon]

Bobby Hill wants to go to Victoria, I wouldn't have minded trying to get him across.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

We basically chose Cameron over Hill.
Looked like a good decision for about a year.

 

[Dylan82]

We basically chose Cameron over Hill.
Looked like a good decision for about a year.

We traded down 23 (which could have been used on Hill) into 27 and 32 which were used on O'Neill and Williams.

Need to see some development soon from those two to justify the decision in hindsight.

 

[Hai_Newman]

Can still confirm Jake does have asthma, loves the club even after 10 clubs inquired and Alec is getting heaps of cuddles from Bombers girls young and old the splendid kenty.

 

[Grahame]

Again re Waterman, let's get Brander out the door first. The apparent lack of interest in Brander, compared to what Peos is suggesting (if true), means other clubs rate Waterman more highly than Brander. So keeping the lesser of the two while trading the better one makes no sense. Lose-lose. (And one other small factor in favour of Waterman is he's from WA. That is, it removes the 'go home' factor. And Brander will be closer to home with any non-WA team.)

So if no offers eventuate, we offer Brander to any team (e.g. GCS) that won't be a finals competitor - for any pick - just to open up another spot. (Otherwise he becomes FMcInnes v2.0.) It'd be Win (Brander) - Win (WCE) - Win (GCS).

 

[Altum Volantes]

So since Jordan Sweet is off the table now…who’s our Vardy replacement?..

 

[WCErevival]

Again re Waterman, let's get Brander out the door first. The apparent lack of interest in Brander, compared to what Peos is suggesting (if true), means other clubs rate Waterman more highly than Brander. So keeping the lesser of the two while trading the better one makes no sense. Lose-lose. (And one other small factor in favour of Waterman is he's from WA. That is, it removes the 'go home' factor. And Brander will be closer to home with any non-WA team.)

So if no offers eventuate, we offer Brander to any team (e.g. GCS) that won't be a finals competitor - for any pick - just to open up another spot. (Otherwise he becomes FMcInnes v2.0.) It'd be Win (Brander) - Win (WCE) - Win (GCS).

It makes sense if we want to cash in on Waterman. Either by upgrading a pick or gaining another one.

 

[RanaNaved]

We traded down 23 (which could have been used on Hill) into 27 and 32 which were used on O'Neill and Williams.

Need to see some development soon from those two to justify the decision in hindsight.

Nah, Ian Hill is a nothing player

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Hmm 4 spots at the moment with Brander and Cameron still on the list.
Once Cameron's departure is official it'll be 5.
I wouldn't mind considering Brander for a rookie list spot for a year if no other club is interested.
Leaves us with 3 ND picks, 1 RD pick & 1 spot for SSP/MSD.

 

[new breed]

So since Jordan Sweet is off the table now…who’s our Vardy replacement?..

That's what WCE ( ROB ) are trying to work out in the next few days .... Williams and Jamieson will have to step up !!

 

[EagleEgo]

A game to watch live tomorrow afternoon (Edit: 11:00am Perth time) for those who are interested in the potential draftees:
Watch LIVE: SA v WA in U19 Champs clash on Sunday - https://www.afl.com.au/news/682999

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

I'm guessing we might be looking for a more experienced ruck since both Williams & Jamieson are still developing.
Hopefully we can get one through the rookie draft or as a delisted free agent since O'Brien said we're not looking to do anymore trading.

 

[Wce17]

Do we really need another ruck? Worst case is if someone gets injured we can always pick another one up in the Mid-Season draft.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

If we could get something of significant value for Jake, I’d give it a look, can’t be too sentimental with it. But he’s best 25 in my mind, with a good chance at climbing both with development and JK’s departure.

If someone was wild enough to include a first round pick, you’d have to get involved, even if it meant sending a lower pick (and Jake) back.

 

[ziad]

You would think there would be a fair bit of interest in Jake. He could easily be a full forward or CHF for some sides, or just a 3rd tall up forward for them. Hope we cash in and get a decent pick.

not up to WAFL standard, so are you thinking ammos?

he is however a much better depth player than Brander so we may get an offer.

 

[The_Gambler]

If we could get something of significant value for Jake, I’d give it a look, can’t be too sentimental with it. But he’s best 25 in my mind, with a good chance at climbing both with development and JK’s departure.

If someone was wild enough to include a first round pick, you’d have to get involved

few people need to low key relax, no one is giving a first round draft pick for jake waterman! Next person suggesting this needs a 1 day ban

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

How are our chances of signing both Humphries and Farmer as cat b rookies? Neither getting very much hype so far.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

few people need to low key relax, no one is giving a first round draft pick for jake waterman!

Hence “was wild enough”.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

not up to WAFL standard, so are you thinking ammos?

he is however a much better depth player than Brander so we may get an offer.

67 goals in 26 WAFL games (including stretches down back) suggests he is, at the very least, WAFL standard.

16 touches, 8.5 marks, 2.5 goals per game.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Great to still have famishedfeline around.
Not up to WAFL standard but supposedly averaged 16 touches, 8.5 marks and 2.5 goals per game this season.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Great to still have famishedfeline around.
Not up to WAFL standard but supposedly averaged 16 touches, 8.5 marks and 2.5 goals per game this season.

Played four WAFL games this year. One of them was 29 and four goals against the Premiers. Imagine how good he’d be when he reaches the standard!

 

[bUCKET__]

Step 1: Trade Waterman for a first rounder
Step 2: Draft Subi boy
Step 3: ****ing premierships mother****ers