Injury SJOGHCIU - Offseason Edition

[Rowan18]

Somehow I don't think that it is a co-incidence that the teams at the pointy end of the ladder have the shortest injury lists. And have done so for most of the season.
Take out 5 or 6 of their best 10 for half the season and the Pies, Dees, Port and Lions look very vulnerable.

Not saying that fixing the injury list would suddenly turn us into a top 4 side (our list problems, well identified, run a bit deeper than that), but I think that we'd be a few places higher than we are.

Based on the last month's performance we probably jump up to at least a 6 win season next year if we have some regular availability (given we had close losses against North, Saints and Bombers).

I expect next year we finish 17th-16th and probably jump up around mid table in 2025 as the young guys start to become more consistent.

 

[Grahame]

Based on the last month's performance we probably jump up to at least a 6 win season next year if we have some regular availability (given we had close losses against North, Saints and Bombers).

I expect next year we finish 17th-16th and probably jump up around mid table in 2025 as the young guys start to become more consistent.

As much as wins I hope our percentage pushes back to 80% or so. That is, closer losses.

 

[Keys]

Last update for the year

Boots and Bunga good to go

Gov a test after rolling his ankle. No mention of any hamstring issue

Hough over his illness

 

[FKASC]

The cavalry

TM

 

[southcoast]

Last update for the year

Boots and Bunga good to go

Gov a test after rolling his ankle. No mention of any hamstring issue

Hough over his illness

A bit presumptuous of you Keys.

Preseason starts later this year. Reckon your services will again be required before Xmas.


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[Nuke Fremantle]

Ah McGovern. 2 year contract confirmed, nek minnit...ankle injury. Or possibly hammy or possibly shoulder or possibly a fractured eye brow.

 

[Keys]

CH7 reporting Gov, Yeo and Harry Edwards are going to see a sports science specialist in Qatar for a week

Guy specialises in lower leg injuries and the players are sharing costs with the club

 

[InTheWings]

CH7 reporting Gov, Yeo and Harry Edwards are going to see a sports science specialist in Qatar for a week

Guy specialises in lower leg injuries and the players are sharing costs with the club

Can the whole club go? Or the club invest to get the guy over here for a week? Half the playing list would benefit.

 

[Biggie]

CH7 reporting Gov, Yeo and Harry Edwards are going to see a sports science specialist in Qatar for a week

Guy specialises in lower leg injuries and the players are sharing costs with the club

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

CH7 reporting Gov, Yeo and Harry Edwards are going to see a sports science specialist in Qatar for a week

Guy specialises in lower leg injuries and the players are sharing costs with the club

Any update on Burgiel?

 

[WCErevival]

CH7 reporting Gov, Yeo and Harry Edwards are going to see a sports science specialist in Qatar for a week

Guy specialises in lower leg injuries and the players are sharing costs with the club

Albo doesn't like this

 

[Keys]

Any update on Burgiel?

Nothing on the news but I did see him at our last open training session and he was moving pretty well albeit at a low temperature intensity session

 

[KERRPOW]

CH7 reporting Gov, Yeo and Harry Edwards are going to see a sports science specialist in Qatar for a week

Guy specialises in lower leg injuries and the players are sharing costs with the club

Our soft cap must be fkd if the players have to foot a portion of the bill.

I suppose they can get half of their out of pocket expenses back on tax.

 

[Barrybran]

Looks like a pretty schmick facility. I hope it works.

 

[Altum Volantes]

If it works, should we consider relocating to Qatar?

Straight shot flights from the East Coast, what’s a couple more hours once a year to those pricks?

 

[Trouto]

CH7 reporting Gov, Yeo and Harry Edwards are going to see a sports science specialist in Qatar for a week

Guy specialises in lower leg injuries and the players are sharing costs with the club

what a steaming pile of poo the AFL system is!

the guys have injured themselves at work, insurance should pay for it, nothing to do with 'soft cap' from the club...

Worksafe should be bought in to rectify it.

 

[ziad]

what a steaming pile of poo the AFL system is!

the guys have injured themselves at work, insurance should pay for it, nothing to do with 'soft cap' from the club...

Worksafe should be bought in to rectify it.

fine - head of to ED at RPH.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

what a steaming pile of poo the AFL system is!

the guys have injured themselves at work, insurance should pay for it, nothing to do with 'soft cap' from the club...

Worksafe should be bought in to rectify it.

Insurance will pay for some things, but not usually jetting off overseas to a specialist centre.

 

[Keys]

what a steaming pile of poo the AFL system is!

the guys have injured themselves at work, insurance should pay for it, nothing to do with 'soft cap' from the club...

Worksafe should be bought in to rectify it.

Costs attributed to rehabilitation from injury should be outside the cap or the cap should be increased for clubs that experience injuries over a base threshold

 

[Trouto]

Costs attributed to rehabilitation from injury should be outside the cap or the cap should be increased for clubs that experience injuries over a base threshold

yeah, i mean, they injured themselves at a workplace, have tried for years to fix it conventionally, and now they are trying the last option

 

[Hap Hapablap]

unfortunately this is a specialist, here they wouldve ended up at rph or st john of god who compared to other facilities throughout the world theyre meh

 

[kane249]

unfortunately this is a specialist, here they wouldve ended up at rph or st john of god who compared to other facilities throughout the world theyre meh

 

[Biggie]

Eagles star Allen in for double off-season surgery

Oscar Allen has had minor surgery on both his shoulder and knee this month and is now poised for an uninterrupted pre-season, The West Australian can reveal.

thewest.com.au

Oscar Allen

12

Oscar Allen

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

has had minor surgery on both his shoulder and knee this month and is now poised for an uninterrupted pre-season. The important forward persevered through several injury niggles towards the end of the year including both shoulders being heavily strapped and a knee issue.

Allen regularly has his right shoulder strapped but landed heavily on his left one multiple times throughout the season. The West Australian can reveal the 24-year-old had minor surgery on one shoulder and a clean-out of a knee this week. Allen finished runner-up to Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

in the John Worsfold Medal and was the only Eagle named in the All-Australian squad after kicking a career-best 53 goals in 23 games for the Eagles.

He first injured his shoulder in the Eagles’ 171-point loss to Sydney in round 15 before landing on it again in round 18 against Richmond when he was forced from the ground. It is a positive result for the Eagles on the injury front, with Allen now poised for an uninterrupted pre-season.

He is widely considered one of the candidates to succeed the retired Luke Shuey

13

Luke Shuey

Age

34

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

10.7

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

5.6

5star

D

18.7

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

7.8

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

4.3

5star

D

17.0

5star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

5star

CL

1.4

4star

as the next captain of the club. Allen led the club on multiple occasions during the season in the absence of Shuey as well as vice-captains Jeremy McGovern

20

Jeremy Mcgovern

Age

32

Ht

197cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

4.6

3star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

238.7

4star

D

12.4

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

183.4

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

7.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

and Tom Barrass

37

Tom Barrass

Age

29

Ht

197cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

6.1

5star

T

0.9

3star

MG

158.5

3star

D

10.1

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

5.6

5star

T

0.3

1star

MG

139.6

2star

D

11.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.4

3star

MG

160.0

3star

. The Eagles’ first to fourth-year players will resume training on November 6, before being joined by the rest of the team including Allen on November 20.

It comes as West Coast send McGovern, Elliot Yeo

6

Elliot Yeo

Age

31

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.5

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.5

5star

MG

377.9

5star

D

18.9

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

5.8

5star

MG

287.4

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.6

3star

and Harry Edwards to Qatar next month to work with high-profile sports physiotherapist Enda King to help solve their injury woes. Dubbed the ‘lower limb guru’, King has worked with plenty of the biggest names in sport including Lionel Messi and Joel Embiid.

McGovern sustained a serious hamstring injury this year, while Yeo has struggled to get on the part in the past four seasons – playing only 37 of a possible 85 games because of a series of soft tissue problems. Edwards played only two games this season because of a groin injury and a broken wrist.

West Coast have already announced that former WA and Victorian fast bowler Mathew Innes joined the club as high-performance manager. Innes crossed from the Western Bulldogs, where he spent 12 years as part of their high-performance department including being their head of sport science and physical performance since 2015. He replaces fitness boss Warren Kofoed stepped away, having been at the club since 2008

 

[southcoast]

Costs attributed to rehabilitation from injury should be outside the cap or the cap should be increased for clubs that experience injuries over a base threshold

In a similar train of thought WCE and Freo, in particular, should be arguing for a COLA type allowance to the soft cap in recognition of longer time in air, short turn around and consequential loss of recovery time which impacts injury treatment etc.


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[Wooshaaaa]

Costs attributed to rehabilitation from injury should be outside the cap or the cap should be increased for clubs that experience injuries over a base threshold

Costs should be outside the cap. Clubs should be able to spend what they need to with the highest quality professionals internally and externally if needed. It is the blight inside the clubs at the minute since the covid cuts. Medical staff left in droves and clubs force to employ less experience/expertise in injury management. Part of the problems at Melbourne that will surface in the coming weeks.

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