List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2022 superstar edition

[Keys]

Link to contract status of all players -

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[RanaNaved]

Would like Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

at WC

 

[EagleEgo]

Paul Hasleby: West Coast Eagles must walk players such as Rhylee West and Paddy Dow to pre-season draft
Paul Hasleby
The West Australian

Paul Hasleby
When a boxer is cornered it can often go one of two ways.

They can either keep taking the blows or they can strategically wait for an opportunity to get back into the fight.

Right now, West Coast are in the corner copping it from everywhere but behind closed doors, they must be strategizing their next moves in preparation for their next big fight.

Should West Coast finish with the dreaded wooden spoon, they will not only have pick one in the AFL draft but the first selection in the pre-season one.

The pre-season draft provides leverage for those clubs who hold the top picks to facilitate a favourable trade or get the player for nothing.

This is where they can offer a young midfielder who is not getting a chance at another club, the opportunity for more game time without having to give up any compensation..

Walking a player to the pre-season draft is not new and while it might be seen as a dirty tactic in the AFL world, it’s not Mike Tyson biting the ear off of Evander Holyfield.

Carlton did it back in 2019 when they offered Gold Coast forward Jack Martin a contract and refused to match any of the Suns’ demands at the trade table.

The Blues got a player for nothing.

So how can West Coast replicate this? There are four players the Eagles should have in mind.

The first player they should target is Rhylee West from the Western Bulldogs.

There was no better ball winner than Rhylee’s dad Scott, who won seven Charles Sutton Medals as a best and fairest, was named a five-time All-Australian and played 324 games.

Now Rhylee is not his old man but at 21 and having played only 16 games since 2019, West has had to bide his time in the reserves and in recent times as a small forward.

Watching him against West Coast two weeks ago you could see he has all the hallmarks of a gun midfielder and the same contested ball qualities as his old man.

Th Bulldogs’ midfield is young and bats as deep as any in the competition, so a long-term deal for West would not be a high priority right now.

This is where West Coast could swoop in and offer a nice three-year deal and a promise of more midfield opportunities to lure him West.

If West was unavailable then West Coast’s attention should shift to a Carlton player who is also on the periphery of the Blues’ high-flying midfield - Paddy Dow.

Like the Bulldogs, the Blues midfield is stacked with talent after the recent acquisitions of Adam Cerra and George Hewett.

Dow has struggled to break into the Blues’ new super midfield under Michael Voss.

The 22-year-old is understood to be out of contract at the end of the season, with some reports he has signed on for another year.

The midfielder has speed and is a good ball user.

Dow has a similar story to Fremantle’s recruit of the year Will Brodie.

Both were high draft picks and for whatever reason struggled to cement their positions early in their career.

A change of scenery and environment could just be what is required for Dow to reach his full potential and it could be at the Eagles.

Another the Eagles should look at is Cam Zurhaar.

While North Melbourne aren’t going any better than the Eagles and Zurhaar is far from their best, there’s something about the West Australian that is attractive.

The 24-year-old is aggressive, tackles to hurt and has an x-factor. He has also delayed talks on a new contract at the Roos.

West Coast will lose Josh Kennedy at the end of this season and Jack Darling’s season has been inconsistent.

Zurhaar would add forward depth to what will still be a good group that features Liam Ryan, Willie Rioli and a returning Oscar Allen.

Richmond’s Liam Baker, who is out of contract at the end of the season, is another who could add pace on a wing or at half-back.

He’s a WA-product with elite ball use and has been part of a successful club, so he knows how to drive culture and high standards.

If West Coast can’t get any of these players for a late draft pick then they should play hard ball and take them by the hand and walk them towards the pre-season draft.

Come round one next season West Coast could have Jai Culley, Rhylee West, Campbell Chesser, Oscar Allen and whoever they select with their first selection in the national draft ready to help them get off the ropes and start throwing some punches of their own to get back into the premiership fight.

"Paul Hasleby: West Coast Eagles must walk players such as Rhylee West and Paddy Dow to pre-season draft".

Would it be easier abd more benefiticial to "walk" a West Australian player like Luke Jackson to PSD than Eastern States Players?

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

"Paul Hasleby: West Coast Eagles must walk players such as Rhylee West and Paddy Dow to pre-season draft".

Would it be easier to "walk" a West Australian player like Luke Jackson to PSD than Eastern States Players?

I think Like Jackson isn't going anywhere I am afraid. Although I am barracking for more off field fisticuffs and their season collapsing but I don't think that's going to happen.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Paul Hasleby: West Coast Eagles must walk players such as Rhylee West and Paddy Dow to pre-season draft
Paul Hasleby
The West Australian

Paul Hasleby
When a boxer is cornered it can often go one of two ways.

They can either keep taking the blows or they can strategically wait for an opportunity to get back into the fight.

Right now, West Coast are in the corner copping it from everywhere but behind closed doors, they must be strategizing their next moves in preparation for their next big fight.

Should West Coast finish with the dreaded wooden spoon, they will not only have pick one in the AFL draft but the first selection in the pre-season one.

The pre-season draft provides leverage for those clubs who hold the top picks to facilitate a favourable trade or get the player for nothing.

This is where they can offer a young midfielder who is not getting a chance at another club, the opportunity for more game time without having to give up any compensation..

Walking a player to the pre-season draft is not new and while it might be seen as a dirty tactic in the AFL world, it’s not Mike Tyson biting the ear off of Evander Holyfield.

Carlton did it back in 2019 when they offered Gold Coast forward Jack Martin a contract and refused to match any of the Suns’ demands at the trade table.

The Blues got a player for nothing.

So how can West Coast replicate this? There are four players the Eagles should have in mind.

The first player they should target is Rhylee West from the Western Bulldogs.

There was no better ball winner than Rhylee’s dad Scott, who won seven Charles Sutton Medals as a best and fairest, was named a five-time All-Australian and played 324 games.

Now Rhylee is not his old man but at 21 and having played only 16 games since 2019, West has had to bide his time in the reserves and in recent times as a small forward.

Watching him against West Coast two weeks ago you could see he has all the hallmarks of a gun midfielder and the same contested ball qualities as his old man.

Th Bulldogs’ midfield is young and bats as deep as any in the competition, so a long-term deal for West would not be a high priority right now.

This is where West Coast could swoop in and offer a nice three-year deal and a promise of more midfield opportunities to lure him West.

If West was unavailable then West Coast’s attention should shift to a Carlton player who is also on the periphery of the Blues’ high-flying midfield - Paddy Dow.

Like the Bulldogs, the Blues midfield is stacked with talent after the recent acquisitions of Adam Cerra and George Hewett.

Dow has struggled to break into the Blues’ new super midfield under Michael Voss.

The 22-year-old is understood to be out of contract at the end of the season, with some reports he has signed on for another year.

The midfielder has speed and is a good ball user.

Dow has a similar story to Fremantle’s recruit of the year Will Brodie.

Both were high draft picks and for whatever reason struggled to cement their positions early in their career.

A change of scenery and environment could just be what is required for Dow to reach his full potential and it could be at the Eagles.

Another the Eagles should look at is Cam Zurhaar.

While North Melbourne aren’t going any better than the Eagles and Zurhaar is far from their best, there’s something about the West Australian that is attractive.

The 24-year-old is aggressive, tackles to hurt and has an x-factor. He has also delayed talks on a new contract at the Roos.

West Coast will lose Josh Kennedy at the end of this season and Jack Darling’s season has been inconsistent.

Zurhaar would add forward depth to what will still be a good group that features Liam Ryan, Willie Rioli and a returning Oscar Allen.

Richmond’s Liam Baker, who is out of contract at the end of the season, is another who could add pace on a wing or at half-back.

He’s a WA-product with elite ball use and has been part of a successful club, so he knows how to drive culture and high standards.

If West Coast can’t get any of these players for a late draft pick then they should play hard ball and take them by the hand and walk them towards the pre-season draft.

Come round one next season West Coast could have Jai Culley, Rhylee West, Campbell Chesser, Oscar Allen and whoever they select with their first selection in the national draft ready to help them get off the ropes and start throwing some punches of their own to get back into the premiership fight.

Legend, cheers.

Not much (if anything) in there I'd disagree with tbh

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Can someone tell me why Bruhn keeps getting mentioned?

Apart from having lived in WA, was also an Eagles supporter. But again just wishful thinking.

 

[FKASC]

Saying that the hub is when our problems started is not the same as blaming our current position on it as there’s been more than enough time since to fix those problems. Fact is, we haven’t

Agree. But it will still happen regardless and I wasn’t just referring to your post (or BigFooty posters) with my comment. The club itself will continue to milk the covid thing for as long as they can

 

[eagles rule]

Can someone tell me why Bruhn keeps getting mentioned?

Someone said that Chesser and Bruhn were mates ..
You know like Shuey and Zaharakis who every year was mentioned as gettable ..


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[FKASC]

Legend, cheers.

Not much (if anything) in there I'd disagree with tbh

Except that there’d be a 0.000000001% chance of this football department being able to turn Paddy Dow into a good AFL midfielder

 

[DanWCE]

The club itself will continue to milk the covid thing for as long as they can

Publicly I think you're probably right, but I suspect internally the dialogue is much different.

 

[FKASC]

Publicly I think you're probably right, but I suspect internally the dialogue is much different.

Hmm Gatorade bottles being knocked off tables you reckon

 

[Keys]

Hmm Gatorade bottles being knocked off tables you reckon

As long as they stay out of the drug testing room

 

[briztoon]

Hence my opinion on say you win the premiership this year what is your position on the club trying to trade up for Pick 1 to guarantee the discount on Ashcroft and likely grab the two best mid talents in the draft.

I too am a huge fan of underdeveloped players as long as they have key basic foundations. (To West Coast recruiters and people on this board that does not mean players who were great at U16 level and have been injured mostly since)

Bailey is too important to us now and going forward.

We don’t need to rebuild our entire midfield, as we potentially have most of the players on our list.

Will Ashcroft this year and Levi Ashcroft in 2024 will top up our midfield.

We need to start drafting KPP’s in between.

And we to be getting games in to Robertson, in the midfield. We need to stop with the tagging assignments and playing him as a defensive forward.

 

[Schtinker]

If Bruhn is on the trade table then surely GWS would end up with a pick in the early/mid teens. Would we take pick 4 and say pick 14 for our Pick 1?

 

[ziad]

If Bruhn is on the trade table then surely GWS would end up with a pick in the early/mid teens. Would we take pick 4 and say pick 14 for our Pick 1?

Not sure about we, I dont think I would. 4th can be a different class to 1st.

I now look forward to a list of exceptions, just consider the words - can be

 

[mattyc75]

It's a good point and in theory 'yes', but no to Tsatas. I'm not a fan at all, his game drops rapidly with pressure.

If we did land a Bruhn and Dev, I'd go tall. Lemmey or Busslinger, but just not with pick 1 or 2. I'd try to trade back a bit to add more draft capital and land one of these guys.
If we did keep our pick, I think taking Sheezel would be ok, as he is a fwd/mid rather than straight up mid like the others.

So whos the best outside ish mid who'll be around a bit later in the draft? We still are going to need some dash at some stage

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[Miguel Sanchez]

Not sure about we, I dont think I would. 4th can be a different class to 1st.

Depends on the draft. Sometimes there’s a clear number 1 and you wouldn’t trade down from it for quids, e.g Horne-Francis last year.

Other times there might be a bunch of guys at the top with not much separating them and if you’re not too fussed which of them you get, you might well look at trading down, e.g the Rayner/Dow/Cerra/Brayshaw/LDU draft.

 

[dinnaz]

So whos the best outside ish mid who'll be around a bit later in the draft? We still are going to need some dash at some stage

Kobe Ryan might be there 20ish

 

[JackOutback]

What if we gave Witherden back to you as steak knives ..


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Then the no is no longer polite.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Kobe Ryan might be there 20ish

Hurt his knee 2 weeks ago. No idea how bad.
Edit mustn't have been too bad. He played for SA v Allies u18 match. Swans and Giants Academy players beat SA.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

So whos the best outside ish mid who'll be around a bit later in the draft? We still are going to need some dash at some stage

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Honestly, I think Chesser and Hough are the dash and outside ball use. But if I had to name a few:

Sam Gilbley, his run off half back and elite left peg is simply awesome to watch. Has had an injury interrupted 2022.

Jordyn Baker (Our NGA) is a quick, skinny winger with good skills and courageous. Should last beyond 40, would be a great pick for outside midfielder.

There are others, but I'd prioritise these two.

 

[mattyc75]

Honestly, I think Chesser and Hough are the dash and outside ball use. But if I had to name a few:

Sam Gilbley, his run off half back and elite left peg is simply awesome to watch. Has had an injury interrupted 2022.

Jordyn Baker (Our NGA) is a quick, skinny winger with good skills and courageous. Should last beyond 40, would be a great pick for outside midfielder.

There are others, but I'd prioritise these two.

Hopefully we grab baker,our recent history with NGA players is less than ideal

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[briztoon]

Honestly, I think Chesser and Hough are the dash and outside ball use. But if I had to name a few:

Sam Gilbley, his run off half back and elite left peg is simply awesome to watch. Has had an injury interrupted 2022.

Jordyn Baker (Our NGA) is a quick, skinny winger with good skills and courageous. Should last beyond 40, would be a great pick for outside midfielder.

There are others, but I'd prioritise these two.

Jaspa Fletcher.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Can't believe I'm going to agree with Haze but West does look like he could be a potential gun mid.

Wouldnt mind us having a crack.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I don't think Baker is eligible as an NGA player after he missed the MySpace message the club sent a few months ago.

 

[paran]

The Yeo, Cripps, Redden, Jetta and Vardy trades ended up winning us the flag in 2018.

2010 draft says hi!