List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

[THE A5]

Nathan Vardy

19

Nathan Vardy

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

3.2

1star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

1.3

3star

HO

17.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.6

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

HO

15.0

5star

for witherden confirmed

 

[Altum Volantes]

A lot of romance from a few Lions supporters about trading in Charlies brother, but to be honest we're in almost the exact opposite position to you. It's not a position of need for us in the slightest. We have Charlie Cameron

23

Charlie Cameron

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

, Rayner, Linc, Keidean Coleman & touch wood in a few weeks his brother Blake Coleman.

Would be sad to see Witho go, would prefer to see him see out his contract & push out Birchall next year. No hard feelings if he decides to move though, you only have a short career, got to make the most of it. If a trade happens I'm sure it will be fair & a win / win.

We might be a little short in the ruck department next year though. That Nic Nat guy goes ok. Could be a decent back up for Big O

Your big boofhead in the media (Brrrrownny) reckons the Lions should be trying to get Jack Redden

8

Jack Redden

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.6

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

4.7

4star

T

5.7

5star

CL

3.9

5star

D

15.0

4star

K

7.3

3star

HB

7.8

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.3

3star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.4

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.8

5star

back the other way?

That was an interesting one I thought. Turns 30 next month and struggled with injuries this year but he’s definitely Best 22 at the Eagles - another year of niggles though and he could be passed by quite quickly. I doubt WCE would do it but I wouldn’t rule it out completely.

Would add another seasoned body in the middle for the Lions.

 

[ghostbat12]

In sadder news I reckon our pursuit of Witherden spells the end for Jetta.

And Nelson.

Not that our backline is really an issue. Maybe witheren in team to allow Duggler to play midfield.

 

[FKASC]

Witherden’s a big upgrade on Nelson the defender IMO. Hopefully Duggan ends up on a wing and Johnson comes into defence too.

Hopefully we don’t pay thru the nose though

 

[Altum Volantes]

And Nelson.

Not that our backline is really an issue. Maybe witheren in team to allow Duggler to play midfield.

Witherden in - Redden Out

Duggan Midfield

Jetta was cooked regardless - 32 next year, struggling with 2 way running and a dodgy calf? - The time has come, the walrus said...

 

[Trav22]

And Nelson.

Not that our backline is really an issue. Maybe witheren in team to allow Duggler to play midfield.

Nelson is safe mate, although His skills aren’t top notch he isn’t a huge liability.
has Some mongrel which a lot of our boys lack. If anyone Cole should be worried.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Pretty astute targets in Langdon & Witherden IMO.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

A lot of romance from a few Lions supporters about trading in Charlies brother, but to be honest we're in almost the exact opposite position to you. It's not a position of need for us in the slightest. We have Charlie Cameron

23

Charlie Cameron

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

, Rayner, Linc, Keidean Coleman & touch wood in a few weeks his brother Blake Coleman.

Would be sad to see Witho go, would prefer to see him see out his contract & push out Birchall next year. No hard feelings if he decides to move though, you only have a short career, got to make the most of it. If a trade happens I'm sure it will be fair & a win / win.

We might be a little short in the ruck department next year though. That Nic Nat guy goes ok. Could be a decent back up for Big O

Straight swap Witherden for Hickey? Originally from Qld and reportedly looking to move back to the east coast.

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

Witherden is a weapon with his kicking very much in the hurn mould of beautiful kick bit of a plodder.

No way is he a better defender than Nelson or cole . Better kick yes .

Jetta will be gone , hurns last year , shep turns 30 at the start of next season and duggan should be playing midfield next year .

We really can fit both rotham and witherden in going forward .

As much as i hate to say it Cameron is expendable.

Starting small forwards next year ryan , cripps , langdon , Jones, petrecelle.

Then maybe rioli back 2022.

 

[KO_KO]

Witherden feels like a moneyball trade, we obviously have identified what we need and he fits the bill.

I would be loathe to trade Cameron, I think the kid will be a super star, rather hang on to him for now and if he does request a trade in the future, his value will be a lot higher.

He kicked back to back bags of 4, not too many do that so early in their careers.


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[Onefortheages]

Gotta weigh up a couple things though

1. I don't think Brisbane would accept our second rounder this year with all the pushbacks.

2. Stastistically speaking, Witherden would offer more then a second rounder next year.

We can't expect to give up nothing for him. He has proven to be something decent at AFL level.

3. He is 22 and fallen out of there best 22

4. Apparently on a good wage that Brisbane would like off there books now that Daniher has arrived.

In a quality deep draft for next year I'd be backing our recruiters in the find someone better personally.

I reckon Brisbane will be happy with this year's second or 33 or what ever it is anyway

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Nelson is safe mate, although His skills aren’t top notch he isn’t a huge liability.

Nelson's skills are fine. Took kick in duties regularly.
"isn't a huge liability" is also unfair. He was very assured throughout 2020.

I appreciate reputations are hard to shake, but I thought he did enough in 2020 that we can leave his 2018/19 form behind.

 

[06Premiers]

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Remember when Bradd absolutely killed it that one time?.......unfortunately it was against us.

I don't see your point.

Bradd wass an absolute gunn.

 

[Trav22]

Nelson's skills are fine. Took kick in duties regularly.
"isn't a huge liability" is also unfair. He was very assured throughout 2020.

I appreciate reputations are hard to shake, but I thought he did enough in 2020 that we can leave his 2018/19 form behind.

I completely agree, I think you miss understood my comment. I think he came on leaps and bounds in 2020

 

[THE A5]

Just about to hand in my resume to the Eagles recruiting team

 

[MaxHunt]

Witherden feels like a moneyball trade, we obviously have identified what we need and he fits the bill.

I would be loathe to trade Cameron, I think the kid will be a super star, rather hang on to him for now and if he does request a trade in the future, his value will be a lot higher.

He kicked back to back bags of 4, not too many do that so early in their careers.


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Yeah agree. Lifting the quality of the team over all and increase depth. Langdon seems a bit like that as well. The Eagles had some poor players on the field in that Collingwood game.

 

[THE A5]

Honestly I'd rather not lose nelson. Train him to tag as well. Piss Ainsworth back to experience.

 

[Obeanie1]

Things are aligning for Clark to wind up wearing purple unfortunately.

He will stay at Cats for 2021 I recon.

 

[mattyc75]

Hogan is a cooked unit. An AFL career isn’t meant for him.

The next cousins post afl? Or brian lake

Brian Lake

Age

42

Ht

195cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

6.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

163.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

4.6

1star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.6

3star

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[Obeanie1]

Witherden is fine as a player. He's handy and AFL quality for sure.

My early thought is just don't really see a possibility of getting him without overpaying. He's contracted and highly rated. Lions aren't trade pushovers.


Bit of a stupid target IMO Our midfield depth seems to once again be a low priority for the club.

What was Yeo when we traded him in from Brisbane?

Duggan to the midfield doesnt tick any boxes?

Hurn and Jetta both will be gone in 12 months. The club rarely comes out in the media like this,. But if true maybe they are targeting someone they think is actually gettable, improves our depth and fits a need.

 

[WCErevival]

Honestly I'd rather not lose nelson. Train him to tag as well. Piss Ainsworth back to experience.

Is Ainsworth even contracted? Could be on the chopping block

 

[wraglesweb]

If we are targeting Witherden Duggan better be lining up in the Midfield next year !!

 

[Schtinker]

Not sure what all the fantasy about "Duggo to the midfield" is about. Have some of us forgotten what Duggo was actually like in the midfield? Witherden would probably be a better option in the midfield than Duggo.

 

[xInfected_Virus]

2020 West Coast Eagles squad and depth analysis.

KPF depth is fine as we have a JK successor plan with Allen becoming JK's successor. KPD depth is also ok as we have Brander who's said to be training with them for 2021 since Schoey retired, Edwards who I think can come in to develop as a decent depth player should we lose Gov or Barrass and Rotham could play on those athletic KPFs.

We're also really good in mid sized defenders and hbf especially if we get Witherden who I rate. Witherden almost never misses targets when he kicks in and can be an upgrade on Nelson in kick ins when Hurn's not kicking in and having him in will mean the end of Jetta as a hbf although Jetta could still be useful as a small forward. (At least we have a Hurn successor in Witherden).


Our midfield depth at the start of the season is shocking. The lack of depth was showing when we were forced to play our best team against the Giants when we should've rested them

Ruck depth is ok though despite Hickey more likely going to the Swans for more ruck depth and to stop Aliir playing in the ruck as Port Adelaide were targeting him to add height to their defense. In the ruck we should still have Vardy, Williams and Jamieson

C: Gaff, Shuey, Sheed
R: Nic Nat, Yeo, Kelly
I/C: Redden

Who else have we got besides this?

Midfieild depth (not including HBFs like Duggan, Cole, Jetta and Nelson): Hutch, Ainsworth, Brayshaw (delisted now), Brander (will train a KPD though), MON (delisted now) and XON. I could add AhChee in but he's mainly playing forward.

The only decent depth we have at the time are XON and Brander. Hutch is pretty good only if he tags but a liability when not tagging.

The bright side with our mids decimated with injuries, we seen Duggan, Cole and Nelson stepped up as our makeshift midfielders and with more midfield time in the pre season, then we'll have our midfield depth more settled.


That's not even the worst issue we got.

The worst issues we have is our lacking small forward depth.

Besides Ryan, Cripps, Rioli (suspended) and Venables (indefinite concussion) who else have we got?
Ainsworth? AhChee, badly out of form Petch, Reid (delisted now), Treacy (also delisted having not set the WAFL on fire) and Jones (who shown enough for me that he can be that small forward we need). Good news is we should get Zac Langdon

7

Zac Langdon

Age

28

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.3

2star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.3

3star

D

6.3

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.3

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

6.3

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.3

2star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.3

3star

although I'm not sure how good is he in filling the pressure forward role that Venables provided or does he provide the crumbing, flair and creativity that Rioli gave us. If we get Witherden then I reckon Jetta can be moved up forward where he can use the creativity and class that Rioli once provided.

 

[squashface]

Not sure what all the fantasy about "Duggo to the midfield" is about. Have some of us forgotten what Duggo was actually like in the midfield? Witherden would probably be a better option in the midfield than Duggo.

Seems like it is you who has forgotten, king. Duggan was very good when he went midfield for us this year