That just seems ridiculous, sounds like it isn’t only our state having this issue either.
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Certified Legendary Thread Corona, Jamaica ooh I wanna take ya (COVID-19 Information & Discussion Here) Part 2 "The Second Wave"
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Either the virus behaves differently in each state or each state is making up their own rules because they are guessing. It’s probably the second one.
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Some media & commentators were reluctant to acknowledge the mental health impact of the lockdown. This below is one of the reasons why lockdowns need to be targeted and no longer than necessary. From the Age today:
"Experts warn of deepening mental health crisis as youth bear brunt of COVID-19 lockdown By Cameron Houston and Craig Butt
The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on the mental health of young Victorians was exacerbated by the state's hard lockdown according to an internal government report which reveals a sharp rise in the number of teenagers seeking emergency care during stage four restrictions.
The report by the Victorian Agency for Health Information shows a 72 per cent increase compared with last year in the number of serious self-harm and suicidal-ideation presentations in emergency departments for those aged under-18 during the final six weeks of lockdown.
Over a six-week period in September and October about 23 young people a week on average required resuscitation or emergency treatment for self-harm or suicidal ideation, compared with about 13 a week over the same time period last year.
"Experts warn of deepening mental health crisis as youth bear brunt of COVID-19 lockdown By Cameron Houston and Craig Butt
The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on the mental health of young Victorians was exacerbated by the state's hard lockdown according to an internal government report which reveals a sharp rise in the number of teenagers seeking emergency care during stage four restrictions.
The report by the Victorian Agency for Health Information shows a 72 per cent increase compared with last year in the number of serious self-harm and suicidal-ideation presentations in emergency departments for those aged under-18 during the final six weeks of lockdown.
Over a six-week period in September and October about 23 young people a week on average required resuscitation or emergency treatment for self-harm or suicidal ideation, compared with about 13 a week over the same time period last year.
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Where have I said it’s lies?
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The UQ vaccine was one that was being worked on for SARS - the first one. (Un)Fortunately it never made it past the initial exploratory stages due to the fact that SARS disappeared (on account it was so deadly, it never gave its host a chance to spread it - unlike this one). So it absolutely is NOT a known quantity other than it saved us time in the design and development phases.
safety protocols for vaccine (and drug development) have been put in place for a reason. Right now, those protocols are not being strictly adhered to. This is a concern.
you clearly don’t understand how the flu vaccine(s) work. I suggest you start reading about them before you pass your expert opinion on the safety of a COVID vaccine.
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And what’s your answer? Let the young ones roam about infecting those at risk? This is a completely shitty situation all round. We are seeing right now the full impact of a society that does nothing to stop the spread of the virus. Nearing 250,000 deaths now with daily case rates above 100,000 and climbing... is that really the way you think it needs to be handled?
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The answer is to have as long a lockdown as is needed for health reasons, but no longer, especially if the longer is for political reasons not health reasons.
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Having a lockdown for longer than needed is political suicide. As no government in the world has ever dealt with a global pandemic in modern times before, there are no hard and fast rules. Melbourne came out of lockdown too soon the first time which made them ultra cautious the second time. Too cautious? Maybe. But it wasn’t for political reasons, because that would be stupid. What possible political advantage would that give them? Did they **** up on the quarantine security front? Absolutely! Did they **** up in their cautious approach to exiting lockdown? I don’t think so. They are now reaping the rewards of that caution, and so can the rest of Australia.
looking to America now and the Biden pandemic task force is suggesting a 4-6 week lock down. There’s no way they get their 100,000+ cases a day under control in 4-6 weeks. At best, it gives their overwhelmed hospital systems and first responders a chance to take a moment to breathe, and that’s only if everyone complies, which they won’t. How much better it could have been for them if theyd taken the harsh approach Victoria did?
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Agree. Roll on November 2022
Lockdown until eradication only makes sense if the whole world eradicates the virus, as NZ shows where they've had two flare ups even after achieving in-country eradication. I'd thought a vaccine in 2021 at all was a dream but that is starting to look wrong - and maybe world-wide eradication is actually achievable.
The only way I can make sense of the Biden strategy is either (a) he knows it will be longer but doesn't want to tell the American public that now or (b) Trump was right and by end March (six weeks after Biden is in a position to start a lockdown) they will have a vaccine out and making an impact.
You're using US data,
World data is 1.31 million deaths and a 600k daily infection rate 13th Nov.
And yes it needs to be handles and quickly and the infection rate has doubled since July which was double the March rate, at this progression jan will 1mill daily infections,
No matter what we think and believe if we do not get on top of this by March next year, we are looking at over 200mil case worldwide with over 5mill deaths worldwide,
Because the problem re Australia is the Forecasted Number around the world that makes it almost impossible to keep out of Australia, Is getting closer every day.
Prison worker becomes fourth SA COVID case as cluster forces dozens into quarantine
South Australia has confirmed a fourth person outside of hotel quarantine has tested positive for coronavirus. Those infected include a woman recently treated at a hospital. More than 90 people who were in the emergency department at the time have been ordered to quarantine.
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The yanks just need to target the relevant parts of the country with this 90% effective vaccine. At this stage it doesn’t even matter if it’s safe long term. Like you’d put out a fire with Dom Perignon if it did the job. Giving the virus no hosts should squash it quickly. Eradication world wide will take a while but hitting the hot spots that matter most should get things back on track as fast as possible.
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****ing HQ again. Returning travellers should've been set up in HQ on Christmas Island from the start. Setting them up in the middle of capital cities was always going to pose a threat.
Prison worker becomes fourth SA COVID case as cluster forces dozens into quarantine
South Australia has confirmed a fourth person outside of hotel quarantine has tested positive for coronavirus. Those infected include a woman recently treated at a hospital. More than 90 people who were in the emergency department at the time have been ordered to quarantine.
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yes I’m using US data, as they are the most hopeless case at the moment and won’t lock down.
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Prison worker becomes fourth SA COVID case as cluster forces dozens into quarantine
South Australia has confirmed a fourth person outside of hotel quarantine has tested positive for coronavirus. Those infected include a woman recently treated at a hospital. More than 90 people who were in the emergency department at the time have been ordered to quarantine.
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Wow. If there's an outbreak wonder what that would mean for borders.
Prison worker becomes fourth SA COVID case as cluster forces dozens into quarantine
South Australia has confirmed a fourth person outside of hotel quarantine has tested positive for coronavirus. Those infected include a woman recently treated at a hospital. More than 90 people who were in the emergency department at the time have been ordered to quarantine.
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Prison worker becomes fourth SA COVID case as cluster forces dozens into quarantine
South Australia has confirmed a fourth person outside of hotel quarantine has tested positive for coronavirus. Those infected include a woman recently treated at a hospital. More than 90 people who were in the emergency department at the time have been ordered to quarantine.
How is the case outside hotel quarantine when one of them got it from a medi-hotel and then probably gave it to other family members? Or am I reading it incorrectly.
Depend how bad it gets it may result in closure perhaps.
It’s escaped the hotel, so is classed as outside hotel quarantine, I guess.
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That will come down to contact tracing. When we had the bag ladies come back from Melbourne, that resulted in two outbreaks, both of which were shut down pretty quickly.
As soon as that Vic border opens up hordes of us West Horshamanians are gonna decsend on Melbourne....
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Aside from Vic, all states' contract tracing has been very efficient. NSW stomped on multiple small ripples, QLD got on top of the slappers and we got on top of the Thebarton Senior College/Roma Mitchell outbreak in August. This has been identified quickly so fingers crossed this is dealt with, an outbreak and lockdown over Christmas would be absolutely devastating after being one of the safest places in the world this year.
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