Certified Legendary Thread Corona, Jamaica ooh I wanna take ya (COVID-19 Information & Discussion Here) Part 2 "The Second Wave"

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Boris Johnson got a huge, yes short term, surge in the polls after his recovery from COVID. If Trump recovers as quickly as he is appearing to & it has the same effect as it did for Boris, he is probably re-elected.

I don't think so, before COVID Boris was popular and the party only got elected in December via a landslide.

This whole fiasco is the nail in the coffin for Trump in my opinion.
 
I think your stats need updating.
Why, what are your stats?

Current counties with most COVID cases per million people...
Qatar 45K
Bahrain 42K
Aruba 38K

The actual numbers may be above the official numbers but nowhere near more to be anywhere near Herd immunity levels.
 

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I said before COVID, December/January/Februay.
I have no idea about that. I know he had better poll results immediately after leaving hospital - even if it didn't last long. My point is that a quick Trump recovery helps his chances of reelection if US voters see things they same way the UK voters did...but I have no idea whether they actually will.
 
I have no idea about that. I know he had better poll results immediately after leaving hospital - even if it didn't last long. My point is that a quick Trump recovery helps his chances of reelection if US voters see things they same way the UK voters did...but I have no idea whether they actually will.

Difference is that they have had 4 years of Trump madness, in my opinion this latest circus does absolutely nothing for him. He should have stayed in the hospital and come out once he has made a full recovery - only then would I see this having a positive effect. They fact that he is being driven around, whilst infectious, waving to his cultists - does nothing for the rest of America.
 
Difference is that they have had 4 years of Trump madness, in my opinion this latest circus does absolutely nothing for him. He should have stayed in the hospital and come out once he has made a full recovery - only then would I see this having a positive effect. They fact that he is being driven around, whilst infectious, waving to his cultists - does nothing for the rest of America.
Problem is USA is full of Americans with more sheep than anywhere else in the world...
 
Problem is USA is full of Americans with more sheep than anywhere else in the world...

He's done such a terrible job and the country is in such a terrible state, I just don't think there's enough idiots willing to vote for him. I could be wrong, but I think Biden ends up winning comfortably and the countey actually shifts pretty left.
 
He's done such a terrible job and the country is in such a terrible state, I just don't think there's enough idiots willing to vote for him. I could be wrong, but I think Biden ends up winning comfortably and the countey actually shifts pretty left.
I didn't think George W would get back in a 2nd time... but I didn't bank on the stupidity of most Americans.

Biden should win, but I'm not assuming anything.

Doesn't help that Biden is hardly a decent alternative either...
 
They don’t have one, at least not one they want to articulate currently. Vaccine is the only hope for Australia. Countries with high case loads may reach a herd immunity in time and we could paint ourselves into a corner.

Do you even know the benchmark for herd immunity without a vaccine?
 
If Dems take the senate it will be narrowly, and the Repubs will probably still seat the RBG replacement. Republican states are salivating at the prospect.
He's done such a terrible job and the country is in such a terrible state, I just don't think there's enough idiots willing to vote for him. I could be wrong, but I think Biden ends up winning comfortably and the countey actually shifts pretty left.

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I will be careful to say first that I think he is a dreadful person, but I think he is a very effective politician, and I reckon Joe Biden is almost the opponent that Trump would have picked if he had been given his choice of who to run against. I think catching COVID helps him, and I think he is a little ahead of Biden as of now. But those are all guesses from a long way away....what do I know? We'll find out pretty soon.
 

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Do you even know the benchmark for herd immunity without a vaccine?
Only what I’ve heard and there’s been some wildly differing opinions. Anywhere from 20-30% to about 70%.
so if areas of London are 20 odd% they can test some of those theories. Assuming, I guess if 20% are confirmed, asymptomatic cases take that over 40-50% with antibodies aboard.
 
So people can survive when they get covid. Even old fat obnoxious white guys. Who’d of think it 🤔💭
 
True, we don't really know how long the immunity lasts yet - but surely if immunity does not last indefinetly. Then a vaccine is not going to work either...?
You need booster shots of many quite dangerous diseases already. Tetanus 10 years , flu shots every year. Etc. pets need yearly shots for parvovirus.
 
The guy is likely whacked out on all kinds of drugs, he is nowhere near out of this yet.
Yes definitely he’s pushing himself because he’s in the last stages of an election. Anything goes at this stage.
 
So people can survive when they get covid. Even old fat obnoxious white guys. Who’d of think it 🤔💭
90% of old fat white guys wouldn't have the medical facilities available to them he does

Move that to 99% in the US
 
90% of old fat white guys wouldn't have the medical facilities available to them he does

Move that to 99% in the US
It’s pretty obvious he would get the best care. Same as the queen etc. they live in to there hundreds because the health care they get is top notch and people in indigenous communities can not get this so their life expectancy is shorter. It is what it is.
 
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