Both methods are subjective.
Analysis Danger + Kerridge VS Milera + Menzel + Gore
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Jello_B
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Agree, I should have just called it as it is. TSR will use any method necessary to discount that PD moving to Cats may end up with the Cats winning the trade. Sorry mate, Sunday morning politeness gone awry.
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It had been reported that Carlton were trying to screw the Eagles in the Judd trade. That was their first strategy until Judd told them to complete a fair trade.
Anyway it seems all the clubs were happy with the outcome of trades given the circumstances.
No doubt he should have played more. Although my memory is that he was also a bit like Martin in that he seemed to be unlucky and get injured at inopportune times. He should have played late last year but with the pressure of finals the selectors were always going with the guys they trust and the faux speed provided by Mackay. I'm not sure we actively traded out Kedge though. Didn't we have a deal on the table but he'd been offerred a lot more at Carlton plus almost certain game time. I think we had to make the best of the situation, even if Menzel can't turn it around we at least aimed for the stars instead of looking for solid citizen and decent 16th-26th type player.
Cats won the trade, surely not in doubt. Gore will have to very, very good and it effectively would have needed to be certain at the time. Bringing in on-trading or selections is irrelevant. Trading pick 2 for pick 1 is a trade win every day of the week, even if you select a Jack Watts with 1 and Buddy goes at 2.
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Nah... hopefully, Gore can turn out to be our trade equivalent of Josh Kennedy and Milera makes us say Patrick who!?
Who do you think won the Judd trade?
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We were always going to get Milera. Doodoo is our Kennedy, hopefully he can be even half as good.
I think it's better that way.
It's like breaking up with someone - you think being nice and friendly and trying to stay in their lives and support them is being helpful; but it's not.
It just makes things worse, and harder, for everyone.
I'm going to pretend he doesn't exist this year, maybe then, when next year rolls around, I'll have gotten over it...
But I expect him to win the Brownlow this year; that'll really hurt.
Menzel looks like he will be lucky to get a game this year. Gore looks a likely type and should get a run some time. He's in that midfield bunch with JL/CEY/MG.
I would have thought that if we won a flag in the next 3 -5 years with Menzel, Gore and Milera playing a role than that is measurable
Can you make such a definitive assessment yet?
In some respects it's tricky because you are not comparing apples with apples. Judd the best mid of his time v Kennedy who is currently the premier KPF in the comp - which has the higher value?
In reality there is no loser in that trade imo
Bovo
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And if Geelong win a premiership without Gore....?
See if Kennedy can maintain that leve for a few more years, then it's a conversation worth having.
Didn't West Coast also get the pick that got Masten?
I believe it's line ball with the West Coast boys playing for a number of years yet it puts them in front.
I believe it's line ball with the West Coast boys playing for a number of years yet it puts them in front.
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As it's turned out WCE decisively.
Didn't Judd win a Brownlow with Carlton?
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Chump change.
Never played beyond week 2 of the finals for Carlton.
I can't be bothered looking up Kennedy's accolades but I assume he's won at least 1 Coleman and been AA. Add that to the fact he's played a GF and made another PF...and chuck in Masten who's had a serviceable career - albeit you might hope for more out of pick 3 - I think you can make the case both ways.
If I was a Carlton fan with the full benefit of hindsight, and knowing how they've struggled for bookends over the last 10 years, I'm probably not thrilled with Judd trade.
That's were the confusion is, would WCE have made the GF if Kennedy was not part of the TEAM, but Judd went to a team of poor players. The PD trade will look like it favored adelaide if the team performs and those players look like an integral part of it, or Geelong performs and PD performs like we know he can!
