Preview R23: Changes vs. Sydney Swans

[Carmo]

Player led?




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Is Slippery Pete the Adelaide leadership group?

 

[Redleg Crow]

Mate, apart from Dawson I didn't see most of our Leadership group show any leadership all season, especially Murphy (what a ****en joke), O'Brien and Smith.
Hinge, meh.
Only Keays and Fogarty can stand tall. Keays for his endless 100% efforts and best season for us and Fogarty for his much-improved year.
Both led by example.

100%

 

[Pugsley]

Like any club there would be different groups of players that feel completely different

Some would love him and others wouldn’t care either way and increasing amount would be off him

It's the same across amateur sporting organisations also.

 

[Pugsley]

Mate, apart from Dawson I didn't see most of our Leadership group show any leadership all season, especially Murphy (what a ****en joke), O'Brien and Smith.
Hinge, meh.
Only Keays and Fogarty can stand tall. Keays for his endless 100% efforts and best season for us and Fogarty for his much-improved year.
Both led by example.

Murphy should be selling merchandise not playing football.

 

[El Doederino]

A bloke named Shaun/Sean came onto 5AA around 6.20pm and said there is a lot more to the Keane going for personal reasons, and it isn’t going back to Ireland. It will all come out over the next 3 weeks. He said it won’t put the AFC in a good light regarding selection integrity.

Could be an interesting September.

Hate to break it to some on here, but one of the “selection integrity” issues was a lot of players pissed off that ROB was dropped.

 

[Redleg Crow]

FFS. Rachelle’s contracted until 2029 or some such thing, and Curtin for another year. Keane may well ask for a transfer, but don’t make this into something it isn’t.

Yes this is why Josh Schache still plays for the Brisbane Lions

It is also why Lachie Neale stayed with Freo until the end of his contract...

Oh wait.

 

[maxlilly]

 

[Pugsley]

The players would prefer that.

 

[Brenton Davy]

AYou made the comment now back it up.

Out:
Borlase (delisted unless we trade a tall defender out)
Nankervis (managed w shoulder)
Cook (needs to get near it at SANFL level to regain confidence)
Himmelberg (no more land of the giants)

In:
Murray, Dawson, Ryan, Worrell

Sub:
Murphy

Rachele lucky to survive

Rankine and Crouch back in the following week

Omissions:

Borlase
Berry
Murphy
Himmelberg

Survive only because we need one of them and the other is somehow worse:

Keane

**** him but you can't not play him:

Rachele

Don't think it's working anymore and when he was gone the other two looked better than they do with him so unless he is kicking bags he probably has to go for the sake of the future but need to balance that against losing too much onfield leadership but then again they did make Fog captain so in theory there should be some anyway:

Walker

Out

MURPHY x5
rachelle
Cook
Borlase
Jones
Himmeldorfer

Me paying $25 to watch in Indonesia

Team ethos - team first -yada yada yada

I watched Laird closely yesterday he has turned into the most selfish footballer for some time - doesn’t care where his kicks go as long as he gets a disposal, more damning he goes when he wants to -at one point a ball was centred it went past him with no real effort to get there and stop it - quite sad.

Rachelle the same how many times does he get get caught holding the ball because he wants to do more - I understand if you have flair use it but bugger me he is getting so frustrating to watch.

As a big fan of Cook -he’s cooked - classy when he has it but the issue is he rarely has it.

Murphy omg the only redeeming feature about him is that I can watch him and think “I could have played AFL”

3 weeks ago ^

Plenty more earlier

 

[maxlilly]

It's the same across amateur sporting organisations also.

Well we are definately one of those

 

[spenze]

Dawson is captain, Tex isn't in the leadership group.

Tex isn't to blame for this **** up.

Tex isn't on list management but Tex is making sure Tex has a contract next year.

We have no leadership group, just a bunch of guys in roles, he still influences and he hates Rachele.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

FFS. Rachelle’s contracted until 2029 or some such thing, and Curtin for another year. Keane may well ask for a transfer, but don’t make this into something it isn’t.

If a player wants out, then they'll request a trade regardless of their contract status.

It only becomes relevant in terms of asking price and the fact we can hold them to it if a deal doesn't eventuate.

 

[MRB37]

Hate to break it to some on here, but one of the “selection integrity” issues was a lot of players pissed off that ROB was dropped.

I actually agreed with Kornes that ROB was made a scapegoat with his dropping. Not because ROB didn't deserve it, but because there were 3-4 more players that deserved it too, but Nicks was too concerned with altering our age profile to follow through.

So undeservedly, ROB was the only one who copped it when it should have been a group of 4 or 5 guys.

 

[maxlilly]

Hate to break it to some on here, but one of the “selection integrity” issues was a lot of players pissed off that ROB was dropped.

Is that why Laird is so angry at the moment because his mate Smithy isn't getting a game

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Hate to break it to some on here, but one of the “selection integrity” issues was a lot of players pissed off that ROB was dropped.

The bloke needed a rocket.

The issue was the clubs failure to develop a competent second option.

Two separate issues

 

[Samcro24]

A bloke named Shaun/Sean came onto 5AA around 6.20pm and said there is a lot more to the Keane going for personal reasons, and it isn’t going back to Ireland. It will all come out over the next 3 weeks. He said it won’t put the AFC in a good light regarding selection integrity.

Could be an interesting September.

Sean surely

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

At 1:31:20

Shaun knows

I don’t think it will blow up like he says but Keane will go and I fully expect Rachele to go too. Question mark on Curtin.

Sounds like Keane got roasted for that free he gave away after a goal and he's spat it

 

[rocket18]

Hopefully this has finally put to bed the nonsense of Nicks fixing our culture, its still toxic.

Fixing the culture was what quite a few of the Nicks fanbois were holding on to as he obviously can't coach, now it's obvious he can't manage men.

 

[FR0GGY]

Wow!

For weeks nearly everyone has been calling for Rachele to be dropped and even traded. Now he’s been dropped everyone’s gone nuclear!

Come on, which is it?

Can you find a poster which did both of these?
I suspect they are different camps of people.

 

[WAG]

Tex isn't on list management but Tex is making sure Tex has a contract next year.

We have no leadership group, just a bunch of guys in roles, he still influences and he hates Rachele.

Where does that come from?

 

[maxlilly]

Sounds like Keane got roasted for that free he gave away after a goal and he's spat it

Sounds like it was a savage game review after the showdown
Lots of finger pointing

 

[FR0GGY]

Names please otherwise I’m calling crap on your post.

Plenty have suggested he get dropped over time, but the ones disagreeing with this decision are different people I’d suggest

 

[robboaustralia]

Pretty much made it sound like it's a split locker room right now and I can totally imagine another senior/youth disconnect because the old ways of doing things are so ingrained in one group and Nicks seems to put the experienced players on a pedestal.

Prob see what Hawks are doing and want a piece of that. We are literally anti-hawks right now playing seniors, couple of plodders, slow gameplan and frowning upon over celebration.

 

[maxlilly]

I actually agreed with Kornes that ROB was made a scapegoat with his dropping. Not because ROB didn't deserve it, but because there were 3-4 more players that deserved it too, but Nicks was too concerned with altering our age profile to follow through.

So undeservedly, ROB was the only one who copped it when it should have been a group of 4 or 5 guys.

So Nicks has upset the senior guys and p!ssed off the younger guys
I think we know how this ends

 

[El Doederino]

Plenty have suggested he get dropped over time, but the ones disagreeing with this decision are different people I’d suggest

I may have suggested he be dropped for form and effort earlier in the year, but dropping him NOW for THIS is completely idiotic.