Confirmed Daniel Rioli - Traded with picks 51, 61, 70 & 76 to GC for picks 6 & 26

[Pure_Ownage]

The senior coach is involved in just about every big name trade.

What you think list managers just bring in guys and tells the coach to fit them in? The coach isn't the negotiator, but if he doesn't want or need the player, the club isn't trading for them. The coach is also often meeting with the players in the discussions probably before they even nominate.

If you look at the truly top clubs like Geelong and Sydney etc the senior coach is asked their opinion on the type of players they need and then the recruiting staff are given the power to make the calls and do or not do deals as they see fit. The coaches stay in their lane and don't try to make 'captains picks'. Now there's an argument that it's easier for those 2 coaches to stay on the sidelines as they had the most experienced footy dept staff they could trust to get it right (guys like wells and dalrymple and Harley and beats on etc). But it still shows that clubs do best when recruitment and trades are left to the experts and the coaches have very little say in the actual transaction.

 

[tigs2010]

From my understanding Richmond fans want pick 6, 12, 20, 26 and a future first the way use are acting

We don't need 26

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

This is exactly what the Suns should do.

What are Richmond going to do? Crack the shits, don't do any trade and hold on to their 28 years old half back who doesn't want to be there while getting flogged each week or they could bring in a promising youngster at 12.

People act like Richmond has all the power here. Yes Rioli is under contract but he doesn't want to be there. They finished last this season and their list is only getting worse, they need this deal done as much as GC.

This is spot on. They are clearly happy to trade him, otherwise this would have stopped in June.

They also need to pay someone, they will be millions short of the minimum unless they keep paying Bolton and Rioli.

 

[tigs2010]

This is exactly what the Suns should do.

 

[tiger_tough]

Not really. In the last game of the season West Coast had 10 players 21 and under. Richmond only 2.

It's a turbo charge from a long was back given you are losing 3 of your best players.

Lol but they lost by 100 points?

The point was the 5 or 6 1st rounders we should have this year is as good of a start to a rebuild you'll see.

 

[Broar]

This is spot on. They are clearly happy to trade him, otherwise this would have stopped in June.

They also need to pay someone, they will be millions short of the minimum unless they keep paying Bolton and Rioli.

Yep, I mean Richmond should absolutely get the best deal they can get and if they can fleece GC, good for them.

But at the end of the day and not to be disrespectful to Bolton or Rioli but neither of them are real heart and soul players, they aren't going to teach these kids to be men, to train hard and show them how to be afl footballers. These two are guys that make good teams great, the cherry on top type of guys.

If the best you can get for Rioli is pick 12, you absolutely do that deal. Get that promising youngster in.

Losing teams can be a very toxic environment. In an ideal world Rioli will continue giving his all but if you keep him and he wants out he could well crack the shits and play like a busted ass all season.

 

[tiger_tough]

Yep, I mean Richmond should absolutely get the best deal they can get and if they can fleece GC, good for them.

But at the end of the day and not to be disrespectful to Bolton or Rioli but neither of them are real heart and soul players, they aren't going to teach these kids to be men, to train hard and show them how to be afl footballers. These two are guys that make good teams great, the cherry on top type of guys.

If the best you can get for Rioli is pick 12, you absolutely do that deal. Get that promising youngster in.

Losing teams can be a very toxic environment. In an ideal world Rioli will continue giving his all but if you keep him and he wants out he could well crack the shits and play like a busted ass all season.

You quite clearly have no idea about Rioli. Did you watch him at all this year?

Just because they're both indigenous doesn't mean they're the same....

 

[Daka]

Best move for Gold Coast is to trade that pick 6 into next year ASAP so Richmond stop asking for it, then offer pick 12+steak knives and see what happens

That would the dumbest thing GC could do because they would be saying goodbye to the trade, given their aren't a bunch of players lining up to join the Suns.

The only reason Dan Rioli wants to go there is because he has a strong relationship with Dimma.
They won't fk this trade up given that.

 

[perplexed]

That would the dumbest thing GC could do because they would be saying goodbye to the trade, given their aren't a bunch of players lining up to join the Suns.

The only reason Dan Rioli wants to go there is because he has a strong relationship with Dimma.
They won't fk this trade up given that.

He wants to move to Gold Coast to spend time with Dimma?
Are you for real?

 

[Bestbird]

Lol but they lost by 100 points?

The point was the 5 or 6 1st rounders we should have this year is as good of a start to a rebuild you'll see.

That would the dumbest thing GC could do because they would be saying goodbye to the trade, given their aren't a bunch of players lining up to join the Suns.

The only reason Dan Rioli wants to go there is because he has a strong relationship with Dimma.
They won't fk this trade up given that.

Pick 6 is pretty valuable so other clubs may offer deals that are to good to turn down from Gold Coasts perspective.

They cleaned up last in that respect.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Gold Coast can’t “win” from this situation.

If they play hardball, they miss out on one of the best players to nominate them for a trade.

If they really want Rioli, they’ll have to pay up (and by that I mean more than pick 6).

I think they’d rather be seen as paying overs to land a gun player than lose out on him all together.

It will be pick 6 plus a sweetener otherwise he stays and GCS look like idiots. Richmond hold all the power.

Mate how bloody stupid would Richmond be to not accept pick 6 for Rioli? A cooked list moving on an aging HBF for pick 6 is a dream come true. Anything more than that would be an absolute joke.

 

[tiger_tough]

He wants to move to Gold Coast to spend time with Dimma?
Are you for real?

Have you been living under a rock? Dan wouldn't be going if Dimma wasn't the coach.

Pick 6 is pretty valuable so other clubs may offer deals that are to good to turn down from Gold Coasts perspective.

They cleaned up last in that respect.

But they want Rioli? Even Twomey says Suns know it'll cost pick 6.

 

[Versailles]

Mate how bloody stupid would Richmond be to not accept pick 6 for Rioli? A cooked list moving on an aging HBF for pick 6 is a dream come true. Anything more than that would be an absolute joke.

Need that second pick as well.

 

[Daka]

He wants to move to Gold Coast to spend time with Dimma?
Are you for real?

That's not what I said...

 

[THE_GUN]

Uhhh yeah, what's your point? You offered your opinion, I offered mine.

It seems the majority opinion excluding Tigers fans is that pick 6 is already overs for Rioli.

Funny that Cal Twomey also mentions that 'Just pick #6 is not acceptable to the Tigers"

Looks like the RFC is on the same page as the Tiger fans

 

[THE_GUN]

If you look at the truly top clubs like Geelong and Sydney etc the senior coach is asked their opinion on the type of players they need and then the recruiting staff are given the power to make the calls and do or not do deals as they see fit. The coaches stay in their lane and don't try to make 'captains picks'. Now there's an argument that it's easier for those 2 coaches to stay on the sidelines as they had the most experienced footy dept staff they could trust to get it right (guys like wells and dalrymple and Harley and beats on etc). But it still shows that clubs do best when recruitment and trades are left to the experts and the coaches have very little say in the actual transaction.

Thats 100% correct and went similar at Richmond

But Gold Coast has handed the credit card to Dimma and he is the messiah as far as they are concerned and is shaping the list to how he wants it and the Rioli call is 100% a Dimma call as is the Luko decision.

He has instructed the list management what he wants this year and it not 18 year old kids and he said in his own words draft picks mean nothing as he has a shed load of Academy kids coming through in 2023, Lombard in 2024 and another 3-4 next year. He wants to have his old toys to teach the kids

 

[THE_GUN]

This is spot on. They are clearly happy to trade him, otherwise this would have stopped in June.

They also need to pay someone, they will be millions short of the minimum unless they keep paying Bolton and Rioli.

We tried , Even had Dan change his mobile number but Dimma wouldnt leave him alone and went to his house every time GC were in Melbourne since june

 

[THE_GUN]

Pick 6 is pretty valuable so other clubs may offer deals that are to good to turn down from Gold Coasts perspective.

They cleaned up last in that respect.

Pick #6 has already cleared out his locker and booked his flight to Punt Road
Blair Hartley will pick him up from the airport and take him to docklands

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

They would look more like idiots if they traded 6 for rioli.

When*

6 is gone. The truly insane will be what else happens around the pick.

 

[THE_GUN]

When*

6 is gone. The truly insane will be what else happens around the pick.

Not really

#6 is for Daniel Rioli , Any extra if there is will be for the cap space
3 separate deals

 

[stallon]

Considering pick 6 is 2x what Rioli is worth Richmond would be absolutely braindead to try to ask for more with a bit of salary.
Considering GC is also braindead they might get away with it though

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Not really

#6 is for Daniel Rioli , Any extra if there is will be for the cap space
3 separate deals

I think because 6 has been agreed so far out and talked about as the deal, that a lot of you guys have just become numb to how ridiculous it is.

Like, the Schultz trade seems bad only because Pies dropped, I would have this as the biggest heist (at the time of trade) since Weller.

 

[THE_GUN]

I think because 6 has been agreed so far out and talked about as the deal, that a lot of you guys have just become numb to how ridiculous it is.

Like, the Schultz trade seems bad only because Pies dropped, I would have this as the biggest heist (at the time of trade) since Weller.

Not really numb but accepting that pick 6 is the min thats going to allow him to move and this would have been raised before Dan requested the trade.

Salary cap contribution is where it gets intricate and things we will never know or will be talked about in the media with any accuracy. Player for pick trades are easy but when clubs paying players too play for other clubs come into then it starts to look lop sided.

Cap space is worth more to some clubs than picks and GC with its young talented list of top end talent will be in this situation.

 

[Broar]

You quite clearly have no idea about Rioli. Did you watch him at all this year?

Just because they're both indigenous doesn't mean they're the same....

What a vile post.

All I'm saying is if you could get a good deal for Rioli and Bolton as you enter a rebuild I'd take it and run. If you want to blow smoke up their asses and pretend they are like Hodge or Cotchin, good for you.

 

[Cobbler]

Pick 6 is a given.

The extras will be later shuffling.

Something like 6, 37, 46 for Rioli and F3.

Richmond get a couple of extra picks in 2024 to bundle together for Brisbane.

GC get points for next year.

Tigers supporters putting any of 12, 20 or 26 with 6 are delusional.