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Draft Expert Davo-27's 2022 u18 Draft Thread
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i dont follow trade week, i guess they are asking for 2 first rounders and sweeteners?
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Last I heard folk were ruminating about a possible 3 club deal to him to Port Adelaide.
West Coast apparently willing to part with a first rounder and send it to North Melbourne and maybe a pick swap by Port Adelaide to the Eagles.
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so that would give North pick 1 and 2? thats not bad i guess, but they couldve gotten a better deal last year, hindsight is a bugger.
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some thoughts on the top end of the draft and why i rate the players where i do
Will Ashcroft - last year he and Wardlaw really stood out as hard working, skilful and clutch players in their intra-state series, Will has then taken the next step and added a more contested inside role to his games well as having the ability to get the most out of himself, his performances and Wardlaws injuries have meant he seems to be the clear number 1.
George Wardlaw - again he and Ashcroft made a quality duo last year and were highly rated, in his few games this year he again performed to a very high standard even though he had to deal with covid and repeated hamstring injuries, he is a player that hunts the ball and the man, he is a bull at a gate similar to Clayton Oliver one of my favourite players to watch and his 2nd and 3rd efforts are fantastic and his aggressive attack on the ball is one of my favourite things about his game.
Harry Sheezel - smooth moving forward who again was a known prospect likely going top 10 since last year, after showing an ability to win high numbers in midfield and his bullet like passing, he has put himself in the top 3 conversation, still averaging over 2 goals a game and showing the ability to be a match winner in the big games such as the GF and the Champs, he deserves to be considered elite.
Aaron Cadman - he was actually a favourite of mine as a general defender last year, but i didnt go high on him unfortunately, his early season form was fantastic, i remember a game in which Geelong was beating GWV and his side was barely able to get it past the wing for the most part, he ended up being one of GWV's best that day, mostly leading up to the wing and ended up goaless, but it was how he played that really shun through leading and marking or wif he couldnt mark winning the contest, he was fantastic which is why i put him inside my top 10 i believe in early April, since then he has gone from strength to strength, leading and inspiring some big wins for GWV and being the target man for Vic Country
Elijah Tsatas - Its hard to ignore his numbers in midfield and his pace going through the wing or middle of the ground, his line breaking skills are great to watch, he reminds me of Callaghan/Sinn from last year from an athletic PoV, but he has a great accumulation rate, his kicking and general decision making are a bit of an area of development/weakness, also i noted in his interview he has a bit of trouble focusing on 1 thing at a time
Cam MacKenzie - going from good general defender to star midfielder has increased his value in the draft, speed, composure, good disposal, calm under pressure, he really took the position left vacant when Wardlaw got injured and made it his own, working very well in tandom with his sandringham team mate Will Ashcroft to lead a strong Vic Metro midfield
Jhye Clark - has been Vic Country's best midfielder for 2 years now, good inside mid, with a good mark overhead and when he has space is generally good at i50 entries, started the year strong but by the end fell off in form a little, was very good for AFL Academy and Vic Country
Matteas Phillipou - a player that has immense talent and natural ability, coming from basketball, his 192cm frame gives him an advantage and he seems to have that composure with ball in hand basketballers usually have on field, really strong pack mark, good accurate kick at goal, was a good forward before showing his ability to dominate in the midfield too, only downside is he seems a bit cocky in his interviews
Reuben Ginbey - another strong bodied mid with surprising speed and athleticism, has been playing off hbf for the WAFL Seniors for most of the year, but showed an impressive ability to win the hard ball in midfield for WA in the champs, winning the WA MVP ahead of some more fancied names, lacks a little confidence in interviews
Jedd Busslinger - 195cm KPD, plays more the intercepting 3rd tall defender than a lock down defender although im sure he can play that role at a decent level as well, played 2 champs games and made the AA team, even though he had a shoulder that needed surgery he was still one of WA 's best in both games and confirmed what we all thought last year and that was that he was a 1st round talent
Matthew Jefferson - had one of those games at the champs kicking 7 goals straight,most other games i have seen him play he is a little more a leading forward who can take the odd contested mark and has ok accuracy at goal, good leading patterns, but he seems to lift in the big games which is good to see, he needs to bulk up a bit so theres a lot of potential development from him.
Bailey Humphrey - when i saw him earlier in the year i thought he had good potential to go as a 1st rounder as a mid, then he got given a forward role at Gippsland, with mixed success, he got a tonne of shots on goal each game but his accuracy was a concern, kicking in general was a bit of a concern and he likes to get the loose ball as well making him less contested, he has that De Goey power forward style about him, but needs some work on his kicking technique(some have said high ball drop?), he ended the year with 21 goals and 18 behinds in the NAB League and 1.3 for Vic Country i believe, i have him outside the top 10 personally.
Will Ashcroft - last year he and Wardlaw really stood out as hard working, skilful and clutch players in their intra-state series, Will has then taken the next step and added a more contested inside role to his games well as having the ability to get the most out of himself, his performances and Wardlaws injuries have meant he seems to be the clear number 1.
George Wardlaw - again he and Ashcroft made a quality duo last year and were highly rated, in his few games this year he again performed to a very high standard even though he had to deal with covid and repeated hamstring injuries, he is a player that hunts the ball and the man, he is a bull at a gate similar to Clayton Oliver one of my favourite players to watch and his 2nd and 3rd efforts are fantastic and his aggressive attack on the ball is one of my favourite things about his game.
Harry Sheezel - smooth moving forward who again was a known prospect likely going top 10 since last year, after showing an ability to win high numbers in midfield and his bullet like passing, he has put himself in the top 3 conversation, still averaging over 2 goals a game and showing the ability to be a match winner in the big games such as the GF and the Champs, he deserves to be considered elite.
Aaron Cadman - he was actually a favourite of mine as a general defender last year, but i didnt go high on him unfortunately, his early season form was fantastic, i remember a game in which Geelong was beating GWV and his side was barely able to get it past the wing for the most part, he ended up being one of GWV's best that day, mostly leading up to the wing and ended up goaless, but it was how he played that really shun through leading and marking or wif he couldnt mark winning the contest, he was fantastic which is why i put him inside my top 10 i believe in early April, since then he has gone from strength to strength, leading and inspiring some big wins for GWV and being the target man for Vic Country
Elijah Tsatas - Its hard to ignore his numbers in midfield and his pace going through the wing or middle of the ground, his line breaking skills are great to watch, he reminds me of Callaghan/Sinn from last year from an athletic PoV, but he has a great accumulation rate, his kicking and general decision making are a bit of an area of development/weakness, also i noted in his interview he has a bit of trouble focusing on 1 thing at a time
Cam MacKenzie - going from good general defender to star midfielder has increased his value in the draft, speed, composure, good disposal, calm under pressure, he really took the position left vacant when Wardlaw got injured and made it his own, working very well in tandom with his sandringham team mate Will Ashcroft to lead a strong Vic Metro midfield
Jhye Clark - has been Vic Country's best midfielder for 2 years now, good inside mid, with a good mark overhead and when he has space is generally good at i50 entries, started the year strong but by the end fell off in form a little, was very good for AFL Academy and Vic Country
Matteas Phillipou - a player that has immense talent and natural ability, coming from basketball, his 192cm frame gives him an advantage and he seems to have that composure with ball in hand basketballers usually have on field, really strong pack mark, good accurate kick at goal, was a good forward before showing his ability to dominate in the midfield too, only downside is he seems a bit cocky in his interviews
Reuben Ginbey - another strong bodied mid with surprising speed and athleticism, has been playing off hbf for the WAFL Seniors for most of the year, but showed an impressive ability to win the hard ball in midfield for WA in the champs, winning the WA MVP ahead of some more fancied names, lacks a little confidence in interviews
Jedd Busslinger - 195cm KPD, plays more the intercepting 3rd tall defender than a lock down defender although im sure he can play that role at a decent level as well, played 2 champs games and made the AA team, even though he had a shoulder that needed surgery he was still one of WA 's best in both games and confirmed what we all thought last year and that was that he was a 1st round talent
Matthew Jefferson - had one of those games at the champs kicking 7 goals straight,most other games i have seen him play he is a little more a leading forward who can take the odd contested mark and has ok accuracy at goal, good leading patterns, but he seems to lift in the big games which is good to see, he needs to bulk up a bit so theres a lot of potential development from him.
Bailey Humphrey - when i saw him earlier in the year i thought he had good potential to go as a 1st rounder as a mid, then he got given a forward role at Gippsland, with mixed success, he got a tonne of shots on goal each game but his accuracy was a concern, kicking in general was a bit of a concern and he likes to get the loose ball as well making him less contested, he has that De Goey power forward style about him, but needs some work on his kicking technique(some have said high ball drop?), he ended the year with 21 goals and 18 behinds in the NAB League and 1.3 for Vic Country i believe, i have him outside the top 10 personally.
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Great write up. Who is your pick for the Roos?
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If you get pick 2 for JHF then i would say Wardlaw and Cadman
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Not looking likely now.
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I think Cadman could be a good option to partner Larkey.
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Yeah agree. If we get Port's pick 8 we can take a mid with that.
If I were GWS I would seriously consider trading out pick 3 and getting a later first rounder for it with a bit more, so lets say trade out pick 3 for picks 8 and 10 for instance.
The reason for it is they are not getting Cadman, North will get him, and all the logical players available for GWS at the pick 3 (eventual pick 4 range) are Vic Metro kids and I think GWS would want to avoid Vic Metro players like the plague as drafting one is basically just asking them to return to Victoria in 12 to 24 months time.
Get rid of pick 2, get some later first rounders for it, and pick up players with much less of a go home factor.
The reason for it is they are not getting Cadman, North will get him, and all the logical players available for GWS at the pick 3 (eventual pick 4 range) are Vic Metro kids and I think GWS would want to avoid Vic Metro players like the plague as drafting one is basically just asking them to return to Victoria in 12 to 24 months time.
Get rid of pick 2, get some later first rounders for it, and pick up players with much less of a go home factor.
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watching the WAFL Colts GF on replay
the 3 players that really standout to me are
1. Mitch Edwards - 2023
2. Clay Hall - 2023
3. Reece Torrent - 2023
Broadbent is playing a bit better, Bevan has been ok, Julian has been good at times, Michael hasnt got much of it, but has been good when he gets it, Deian Roberts is looking good from the 2024 draft, Carbone has a good intensity about him but im not sure he gets drafted this year.
Noah Farrow 195cm 85kg is an interesting prospect, KPP from West Perth, might have to go through the wafl system for another year? but could be a smokey in this years draft?
the 3 players that really standout to me are
1. Mitch Edwards - 2023
2. Clay Hall - 2023
3. Reece Torrent - 2023
Broadbent is playing a bit better, Bevan has been ok, Julian has been good at times, Michael hasnt got much of it, but has been good when he gets it, Deian Roberts is looking good from the 2024 draft, Carbone has a good intensity about him but im not sure he gets drafted this year.
Noah Farrow 195cm 85kg is an interesting prospect, KPP from West Perth, might have to go through the wafl system for another year? but could be a smokey in this years draft?
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Hope the Saints pounce on Magor at pick 45. Have Seth Campbell & Jovan Petric as my rookies
Jaxon Binns & Harvey Gallagher look too late, there.
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Binns has good stats, but his footy can be a bit rough, a club will have to iron out all the kinks in his game, i stand by where i have him, he could go anywhere in the draft, but this is where i rate him, i think he has some good qualities like his running game and ability to get on the end of chains of play, but its his breakdown with disposal that has been a constant and that needs fixing imo.
Gallagher i have liked his kicking, he is an overager so should perform at a decent level, moves well, he seems a bit small maybe small frame? not sure?, maybe if i saw more of him and he made more of an impression he might have broken into my top 50, but he wouldnt be too much higher imo
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2km time trial
Oliver Hollands (Murray Bushrangers) – 5:54 minutesJason Gillbee (Bendigo Pioneers) – 5:54
Jaxon Binns (Dandenong Stingrays) – 6:00
20m sprint
Edward Allan (Claremont) – 2.81 secondsToby McMullin (Sandringham Dragons) – 2.880
Coby Burgiel (Gippsland Power) – 2.883
Agility
Darcy Jones (Swan Districts) – 7.70 secondsJaxon Binns (Dandenong Stingrays) – 8.18
Elijah Hewett (Swan Districts) – 8.21
Vertical jump
Darcy Jones (Swan Districts) – 75cmJames Van Es (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) – 75
Jack O'Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers) – 71
Running vertical jump
James Van Es (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) – 98cmAaron Cadman (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) – 93
Will Verrall (South Adelaide) – 90
Josh Weddle (Oakleigh Chargers) – 90
Ed Allan with some break neck speed, his 3 runs were 2.85, 2.82 and 2.81 which is quick af boy
Darcy Jones showing his agility breaking Stephen Hills 14 year old record
and for a big FB James Van Es doing well in all of the runs and jumps, Weddle also having good runs and jumps for a big man as well, Ginbey also putting in good times for his sprint/2km time trial
Burgiel has great endurance on field, didnt expect that burst of pace, so good signs for him too
Will Ashcroft didnt train, Bailey Humphrey with a corky from his last 3 games getting it drained so couldnt train and Wardlaw still nursing his hamstrings.
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How would you compare ed allan to matthew johnson from last year, and is he a reach at the hawks second?
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I recall big fella Will Bella doing well in the testing last year, but didn't get picked up.2km time trial
Oliver Hollands (Murray Bushrangers) – 5:54 minutes
Jason Gillbee (Bendigo Pioneers) – 5:54
Jaxon Binns (Dandenong Stingrays) – 6:00
20m sprint
Edward Allan (Claremont) – 2.81 seconds
Toby McMullin (Sandringham Dragons) – 2.880
Coby Burgiel (Gippsland Power) – 2.883
Agility
Darcy Jones (Swan Districts) – 7.70 seconds
Jaxon Binns (Dandenong Stingrays) – 8.18
Elijah Hewett (Swan Districts) – 8.21
Vertical jump
Darcy Jones (Swan Districts) – 75cm
James Van Es (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) – 75
Jack O'Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers) – 71
Running vertical jump
James Van Es (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) – 98cm
Aaron Cadman (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) – 93
Will Verrall (South Adelaide) – 90
Josh Weddle (Oakleigh Chargers) – 90
Ed Allan with some break neck speed, his 3 runs were 2.85, 2.82 and 2.81 which is quick af boy
Darcy Jones showing his agility breaking Stephen Hills 14 year old record
and for a big FB James Van Es doing well in all of the runs and jumps, Weddle also having good runs and jumps for a big man as well, Ginbey also putting in good times for his sprint/2km time trial
Burgiel has great endurance on field, didnt expect that burst of pace, so good signs for him too
Will Ashcroft didnt train, Bailey Humphrey with a corky from his last 3 games getting it drained so couldnt train and Wardlaw still nursing his hamstrings.
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Matthew Johnson was a large slower midfielder, who similar to Mitch Szybkowski of this year is all about positioning and ball use, that would be a better comparison
Ed Allan is a favourite of Cal Twomey's i believe, so that means he probably wont last to our 2nd also his combine results would bolster his value, but i would love him at our 2nd round pick
I believe they're referred to as Dutch
Any of Jhye Clark’s results available?
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