Not so sure. I think the undervaluing of Lyons preceded the re-signing of Thommo. And by a fair margin.
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Not so sure. I think the undervaluing of Lyons preceded the re-signing of Thommo. And by a fair margin.
Thommo got walked past for the better part of an entire season last year. The only toughness he's capable of delivering is a few jump on the backs.
The decision to low ball Lyons and instead give money to Thompson to run around the SANFL is one of the most ridiculous examples of poor list management I've seen at this club. It was made even worse when CEY wen't down with a knee. I can't believe there are people around here who defended that decision.
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He does appear to be covering the ground better, albeit at SANFL level.
It was a somewhat tongue in cheek post, but given the total lack of physicality in the Reserve side, bar Beech, it will no doubt be thought about.
I'll be surprised if he's not selected. Lever out with ankle and Thommo in.
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Very short odds
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Wow. I think that might be the slowest AFL team i can remember.
Which would probably mean Greenwood gets sent forward again instead of playing midfield, which doesn't seem to be the best way to develop him.
Oh well, I'll be interested to see how much Thommo has improved since last year. Organic growth, b*tches! YEAH!
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good! Love it when the heat is turned on!
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Those weren't security guards still out on the field at the start of the Port v Hawks game last week. It was Thommo and Lyons still making their way off the field from the round 19 game against Essendon last year. They never should have ventured way out to the outer wing.
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Don't forget the humping while on their back.
Golumless
A bigger deal out west.
Your only flaw in this comment is Neale isn't a big bodied mid.
Golumless
A bigger deal out west.
What's the point?
You can see Wigg offers us nothing we don't have just from watching him.
He's an undersized midfielder, who whilst can accumulate, doesn't have any real weapons that says "he's going to be an AFL player".
(Mind you, I'd be equally ok with putting him in if it's Mackay who is out due to being less depressing)
He's not tall but he's solid, he doesn't get brushed aside and is an excellent clearance player.
Southerntakeover
Too Sweet
There are some questions that I'd love to have answered (but of course never will).
There were obvious strategic steps that could, and should, have been taken. Let's just pick one for starters, leaving forwards in the forward line to match up their loose men.
Why werent such steps taken until far too late on the weekend? Was it:
1) The coaches werent able to think of it? That's pretty concerning, the advice was available for free all over the media / commentary in the lead in to the game.
2) The coaches didnt think it necessary? Again, very concerning. We've had two games last year to act as a sighter and our earlier two games this year. I suppose they could have taken the view of see if our team improvement matched up this year before adopting negative approaches. Still, it would raise the follow up questions, do we now understand that such moves are necessary and will we undertake such moves next time?
3) We will not, in any circumstance, make such changes because we believe that we should always play with our preferred structure, and if we do so well enough we'll win.
1 and 2 would be very very concerning, however perhaps not fatal. They could perhaps be fixed in future. IMO if the answer is 3 then Pyke should be immediately moved on from. We've already seen how this movie ends, and it's a stinker.
I don't know that I've seen such anger at a coach amongst the fan base since the death knell days of Craig. That's a massive shift in sentiment in a rather short time, but I think that's a result of just how obvious the changes were and how egregious it was to not make them.
If they trot that exact same game style out against Geelong at the oval later in the year, I'll hate to hear the half time reaction.
There were obvious strategic steps that could, and should, have been taken. Let's just pick one for starters, leaving forwards in the forward line to match up their loose men.
Why werent such steps taken until far too late on the weekend? Was it:
1) The coaches werent able to think of it? That's pretty concerning, the advice was available for free all over the media / commentary in the lead in to the game.
2) The coaches didnt think it necessary? Again, very concerning. We've had two games last year to act as a sighter and our earlier two games this year. I suppose they could have taken the view of see if our team improvement matched up this year before adopting negative approaches. Still, it would raise the follow up questions, do we now understand that such moves are necessary and will we undertake such moves next time?
3) We will not, in any circumstance, make such changes because we believe that we should always play with our preferred structure, and if we do so well enough we'll win.
1 and 2 would be very very concerning, however perhaps not fatal. They could perhaps be fixed in future. IMO if the answer is 3 then Pyke should be immediately moved on from. We've already seen how this movie ends, and it's a stinker.
I don't know that I've seen such anger at a coach amongst the fan base since the death knell days of Craig. That's a massive shift in sentiment in a rather short time, but I think that's a result of just how obvious the changes were and how egregious it was to not make them.
If they trot that exact same game style out against Geelong at the oval later in the year, I'll hate to hear the half time reaction.
If we lose another game to the same shit, people are going to get rabid.
Southerntakeover
Too Sweet
It might just be time fading memories, but I don't recall it being this strong. Anger at the administration a much larger factor. It always took a particular something to deprive a coach of top level talent through draft pick sanctions and then sack him.
Teams will be coming at us the same way Geelong did, why wouldn't any coach in the AfL be doing what Geelong did to us they would have to be stupid not to come after us in the same way
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