News Dons ASADA scandal (Latest: Pg 101 - CAS verdict. Guilty, 12 months.)

[Bay Pie]

Today's Herald Sun (Scott Gullan column) suggests he has information that ASADA has in fact met the "Comfortable Satisfaction" standard

There isn't a like button bigger enough for this quote. Once found guilty they'll appeal but at least the players will remain suspended until such time as an appeal is heard, so basically the AFL can move on while EFC continue to play circle jerk.

I'm intrigued about what happens if, as appears distinctly possible, the players are found guilty.

If I were Slater and Gordon I would love to get my hands on a class action, against the EFC. That right there could bankrupt the club if any judgement falls outside its insurance coverage.

In this scenario I don't think it matters if the players are found guilty. Essendon have admitted to injecting their players with substances that they have no record of and are not sure what they were....but they were legal. **** me. Close case. Essendon will settle out of court, each and every player that was injected.

 

[good4footy]

Today's Herald Sun (Scott Gullan column) suggests he has information that ASADA has in fact met the "Comfortable Satisfaction" standard

I can't find it - do you have a link?

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I can't find it - do you have a link?

No, sorry I read it in the hard copy

Page 71

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Surely if Essendon are a chance to play part of this season missing a large chunk of their playing list, shouldn't they stop acting so stubbornly and accept the AFL proposal whilst trailing some top up players in the NAB challenge??!?

Sounds fairly logical doesn't it but apparently Essendon don't want to field a sub standard side as it may damage their brand.

 

[rustyg70]

If found guilty, I reckon the Bombers are going to find it extremely hard to find sponsors.
Which company would ever want to be associated with a proven drug cheating club?

 

[Bloben]

There is a guy in my office who is an absolutely one-eyed Hird lovin' head in the sand bombers fan. For ages we have had debates on what a shambles his club is and he always has an excuse or claim of conspiracy or fact that all clubs are doing it etc. etc.

He said this week that his oldest boy (6) has told him that he has now decided that he won't barrack for Essendon any more and wants to follow Hawthorn which has devastated him as he likes to take his boys to the footy every week.

One of the consequences that Essendon are making worse for themselves is the impact on their future supporter base. Each of us as young Collingwood supporters must have experienced a bit of school yard bullying however there were always a few of us and we stood side by side. But how long would a young Essendon fan put up with the bullying of being drug cheats? And imagine what will happen if they are found guilty?!?!?!

We could be looking back at this in 20 years time at the once powerful club Essendon struggling financially and with one of the lowest membership bases and pin point Hird as the one that destroyed the club. #standbyhird

 

[Old Spice]

From the mouth of babes.

 

[76woodenspooners]

He said this week that his oldest boy (6) has told him that he has now decided that he won't barrack for Essendon any more and wants to follow Hawthorn which has devastated him as he likes to take his boys to the footy every week.

One of the consequences that Essendon are making worse for themselves is the impact on their future supporter base. Each of us as young Collingwood supporters must have experienced a bit of school yard bullying however there were always a few of us and we stood side by side. But how long would a young Essendon fan put up with the bullying of being drug cheats? And imagine what will happen if they are found guilty?!?!?!

We could be looking back at this in 20 years time at the once powerful club Essendon struggling financially and with one of the lowest membership bases and pin point Hird as the one that destroyed the club. #standbyhird

This

I had this very conversation with the bloke in my coffee shop this morning - almost word perfect.

If Essendon survives Reykjavik 's class action, this is what will eventually sink them.

Look at what happened to Carlton with the salary cap cheating - and now 15 years later they are only half the club they once were. And Carlton 's crime / punishment / damage-to-reputation is pittance compared with what Essendon are going through.

Perhaps the powers-that-be at Essendon decided ages ago that their only chance of surviving this is to build an "us-against-the-world" mentality amongst the supporter base, to pray, to close the eyes, and try to bust through it and hope a ruling goes in their favour.

 

[TradeDraft]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/BAN-...round-drafts-if-Guilty/411723955668163?ref=hl

From popin

 

[Reykjavik]

I thought their brand was "Whatever it takes"

 

[Obese Arachnid]

I thought their brand was "Whatever it takes"

Isn't "it" ancient Sumerian for Hird?

 

[Reykjavik]

Isn't "it" ancient Sumerian for Hird?

The derivations are unclear.

Some sources suggest that Hird is in fact even older, derived from a corruption of the language of The Elder Ones. Indeed, some suggest that in fact the Hird/Turd entity was the result of a particularly powerful defecation from the Great One C'thulu, becoming an albeit lesser member of the Deep Ones after C'thulu decided to make one of his number 2's a real number 2, so to speak.

There are suggestions in texts, now buried under Martin Hardie's sea kayak and protected by a small fox terrier called Boris, that in fact the chant of the followers of C'thulu, "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu Windyhill wgah'nagl fhtagn Hirdy" means "C'thulu in his dread city of WindyHill will Stand by his Hird Turd". If you are stupid enough to venture into the law library at Deakin on a Thursday night, you can just make out their chants somewhere between the CCH tax reporter and Halsbury's Laws of England. It might sound like gibberish, but it makes more sense than anything anyone on the Essendon board is likely to say on the matter.

This is, however, like all aspects of this saga, contested, especially by unbiased sources on BomberBlitz and the hot Topic Board.

Recently, things have become even more murky and sinister. There are hints that secret societies are involved, but not against Hird/Turd as their tame lapdogs would have you believe, but in fact on his behalf, and on behalf of his Dread Occasion master and creator (and defecatrix) C'Thulu.

In particular, the name of Robinson keeps coming up, and far from the buffoonish whiny idol worshiping sycophant that logic would suggest, he is in fact understood to be a key member of two shadowy conspiracies, The Inebriati and the Knights Tippler, who are working for a return of the Dread C'thulu to rule the world for darkness with his pet by his side, in exchange for the institution of mandatory 10 am skulling competitions and the banning of all beer receptacles smaller than the jug.

Then there are even worse, nay (or should I say neigh?) horrific stories of an even more evil and twisted conspiracy that has joined the fray on behalf of James Albert and his creator. The following picture, obtained by the Bothan spies, and taken from James' remaining luxury residence in Toorak suitable only for a poor working man and simple champion of the underdog, shows the new members of team Hird, and allegedly also his legal advisors.

Many brave Bothans died to bring us this picture.

There we have it ladies and gentlemen. Friendship is for untermensch, when you're a Turd. Ubersturmbannfuhrer Twilight Sparkle says its so.

 

[ppoiter]

I thought their brand was "Whatever it takes"

Whatever it takes/whatever we take/what did we take? Same diff

 

[vjknight]

We could be looking back at this in 2 years time at the once powerful club Essendon in the hands of insolvency administrators and with one of the lowest membership bases and pin point Hird as the one that destroyed the club. #standbyhird

edited.

 

[76woodenspooners]

The derivations are unclear.

Some sources suggest that Hird is in fact even older, derived from a corruption of the language of The Elder Ones. Indeed, some suggest that in fact the Hird/Turd entity was the result of a particularly powerful defecation from the Great One C'thulu, becoming an albeit lesser member of the Deep Ones after C'thulu decided to make one of his number 2's a real number 2, so to speak.

There are suggestions in texts, now buried under Martin Hardie's sea kayak and protected by a small fox terrier called Boris, that in fact the chant of the followers of C'thulu, "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu Windyhill wgah'nagl fhtagn Hirdy" means "C'thulu in his dread city of WindyHill will Stand by his Hird Turd". If you are stupid enough to venture into the law library at Deakin on a Thursday night, you can just make out their chants somewhere between the CCH tax reporter and Halsbury's Laws of England.

This is, however, like all aspects of this saga, contested, especially by unbiased sources on BomberBlitz and the hot Topic Board.

Recently, things have become even more murky and sinister. There are hints that secret societies are involved, but not against Hird/Turd as their tame lapdogs would have you believe, but in fact on his behalf, and on behalf of his Dread Occasion master and creator (and defecatrix) C'Thulu.

In particular, the name of Robinson keeps coming up, and far from the buffoonish whiny idol worshiping sycophant that logic would suggest, he is in fact understood to be a key member of two shadowy conspiracies, The Inebriati and the Knights Tippler, who are working for a return of the Dread C'thulu to rule the world for darkness with his pet by his side, in exchange for the institution of mandatory 10 am skulling competitions and the banning of all beer receptacles smaller than the jug.

Then there are even worse, nay (or should I say neigh?) horrific stories of an even more evil and twisted conspiracy that has joined the fray on behalf of James Albert and his creator. The following picture, obtained by the Bothan spies, and taken from James' remaining luxury residence in Toorak suitable only for a poor working man and simple champion of the underdog, shows the new members of team Hird, and allegedly also his legal advisors.

Many brave Bothans died to bring us this picture.

There we have it ladies and gentlemen. Friendship is for untermensch, when you're a Turd. Ubersturmbannfuhrer Twilight Sparkle says its so.

WOW, just WOW!

Managing to juxtapose Der Führer, Applejack and Twilight Sparkle into this, your Magnum Opus ... You are a true renaissance man!

That is going straight to the pool room ...

 

[Old Spice]

Pinky Pie would have scored it a perfect 10.

 

[Reykjavik]

Pinky Pie would have scored it a perfect 10.

But only if you also invade Poland.

 

[Laurie Holden]

There is a guy in my office who is an absolutely one-eyed Hird lovin' head in the sand bombers fan. For ages we have had debates on what a shambles his club is and he always has an excuse or claim of conspiracy or fact that all clubs are doing it etc. etc.

He said this week that his oldest boy (6) has told him that he has now decided that he won't barrack for Essendon any more and wants to follow Hawthorn which has devastated him as he likes to take his boys to the footy every week.

One of the consequences that Essendon are making worse for themselves is the impact on their future supporter base. Each of us as young Collingwood supporters must have experienced a bit of school yard bullying however there were always a few of us and we stood side by side. But how long would a young Essendon fan put up with the bullying of being drug cheats? And imagine what will happen if they are found guilty?!?!?!

We could be looking back at this in 20 years time at the once powerful club Essendon struggling financially and with one of the lowest membership bases and pin point Hird as the one that destroyed the club. #standbyhird

Similar story from me too with one of my close mates.

My 7 year old daughter also use to barrack for Pies and Dons (to keep Mum and Dad happy) She told me not that long ago that she doesn't barrack for the Dons anymore, just Pies. I've never forced her at all to go for any club and asked why. It was the school yard talk the led her to her decision.

 

[Thrawn]

Today's Herald Sun (Scott Gullan column) suggests he has information that ASADA has in fact met the "Comfortable Satisfaction" standard

Hopefully the tribunal members have comfortable chairs.

But I have heard ASADA reached a level above that, the evidence so damning they're tripping over themselves and demanding things from the AFL. If anything, this should give more incentive for the AFL to whack them harder with doping charges.

 

[ottoman]

Similar story from me too with one of my close mates.

My 7 year old daughter also use to barrack for Pies and Dons (to keep Mum and Dad happy) She told me not that long ago that she doesn't barrack for the Dons anymore, just Pies. I've never forced her at all to go for any club and asked why. It was the school yard talk the led her to her decision.

Bit worried about your parenting.
Thank god she is obviously a very intelligent girl.

 

[vjknight]

Similar story from me too with one of my close mates.

My 7 year old daughter also use to barrack for Pies and Dons (to keep Mum and Dad happy) She told me not that long ago that she doesn't barrack for the Dons anymore, just Pies. I've never forced her at all to go for any club and asked why. It was the school yard talk the led her to her decision.

my 9yo daughter abandoned them when it all started.

if you catch her lying, you call her james.

does not like it one bit.

 

[Pedro]

Today's Herald Sun (Scott Gullan column) suggests he has information that ASADA has in fact met the "Comfortable Satisfaction" standard

I hope that is the case, don't get me wrong. But what sort of information from such a secretive, closed tribunal hearing could he have? Is he guessing or is it another case of people who should, but can't keep their trap shut

 

[Laurie Holden]

Bit worried about your parenting.
Thank god she is obviously a very intelligent girl.

Hahaha...too true!

TBH I have had to try really hard to not brainwash her. Lucky enough she made the right choice

 

[Bloben]

My wife and I are both collingwood supporters so the question of whether to brainwash won't be a tough one once my son is a bit older. He is 12 weeks old and has more Collingwood gear than I do including a teddy bear from "build a bear" that is wearing a Collingwood jumper!

 

[Baltimore Jack]

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/ar...-bombers-stand-off-mick-malthouse-slams-dons/

Malthouse lashes Dons over NAB Challenge

Carlton coach Mick Malthouse has launched a scathing attack on Essendon as the club continues to baulk at fielding a team in the NAB Challenge.

Malthouse unleashed the broadside when speaking to reporters before a training session at Visy Park on Thursday morning and later found an unlikely ally for his strong stance in Collingwood counterpart Nathan Buckley.

The Bombers are desperate to protect the anonymity of up to 18 players provisionally suspended awaiting the AFL anti-doping tribunal's findings, with one option reported that all players at the club in 2012 be withdrawn from the pre-season competition.

In that scenario, Essendon football manager Rob Kerr estimated the Bombers would need up to 20 top-up players if it were to participate in the pre-season competition - a situation that the club feels is clearly not ideal and could even pose a risk to the health of those players.

The Blues do not play the Bombers in this year's NAB Challenge, but Malthouse had clearly had enough of the ongoing instability when he spoke to reporters on Thursday.

"This is a national competition and it can't be hijacked by one football club," Malthouse said from Visy Park.

"This is a great test for the AFL and its administrators to be very, very firm and strong.

"The tail cannot wag the dog."

The Bombers are slated to kick off their pre-season campaign against St Kilda in Morwell on Saturday, March 7, with games against GWS and Melbourne to follow.

Negotiations between Essendon and the AFL over the issue are ongoing, but Malthouse feels the Bombers are in no position to even sit at the negotiating table as controversy over the club's 2012 supplements program lingers into its third year.

"I don't think under the circumstances with what's happened over the last two years that people can start dictating whether they're going to play or whether they're not," he said.

"The rules are in place. There's a competition at stake and I would personally expect that there would be nine games in the first round contested by 18 teams."

Speaking from Collingwood's leadership announcement later on Thursday afternoon, Buckley echoed Malthouse's sentiments and urged the AFL to take a firm stance with Essendon in relation to the NAB Challenge.

"It's an 18 team competition and the AFL need to be strong in the way that they enforce their regulations and their expectations on each and every one of the clubs," Buckley said.

"It just so happens that it's Essendon on this occasion and you'd expect strong leadership from the top."

Having previously spoken to other AFL coaches on the topic of the Bombers, Buckley feels that there is a strong desire amongst his counterparts for the issue be put to bed once and for all.

"I think the feeling is it would be better put behind us and the quicker we can do that, the better," he said.

"The AFL aren't entirely in control of it, ASADA have clearly got the reins at the moment and the sooner those findings come back down the better, and everyone can get on with business."

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/ar...-bombers-stand-off-mick-malthouse-slams-dons/