For now some light reading
http://sociallitigator.com/2015/04/03/a-question-of-proof-might-an-asada-appeal-have-legs/
http://sociallitigator.com/2015/04/03/a-question-of-proof-might-an-asada-appeal-have-legs/
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News Dons ASADA scandal (Latest: Pg 101 - CAS verdict. Guilty, 12 months.)
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ASADA can't win this case now......but WADA can
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I have a slightly different view, I think ASADA will pass but WADA will have a crack at CAS
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ASADA can't win this case now......but WADA can
You'd reckon that WADA will have put the hard word on ASADA ... "So who is going to appeal this, you or us?"
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Or perhaps its more about bypassing anything to do with the AFL to get a truly independent hearing
Apologies it's what I meant. Take it straight to the final court.
I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist generally but i think that people that hold this view on this occasion hold one just as valid as mine.
My reasoning on CAS has more to do with the flexibility of CAS regards evidence. It will also not be an 'appeal' as such if it goes to CAS (may be wrong on this). Would not surprise me if ASADA say nah and WADA say yep -skip the step that may leave them open to another loss. Strategically it makes sense for them to do this.
EDIT- ASADA are convinced that Essendon doped. They just can't prove it within the confines of the AFL Tribunal.
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Has anyone seen the new "Bombers call to arms" add on TV?
I nearly puked!
Not one scene has Hird in it, Sheedy does all the vocal and it makes my skin crawl to think this club now gets to arrogantly thumb its nose at the rest of the comp and proclaim that being a member is an honour. How honourable is it to drug your own players?
Until Hird (and anyone else involved in the process) is sacked....sorry Bombers you still stink.
I nearly puked!
Not one scene has Hird in it, Sheedy does all the vocal and it makes my skin crawl to think this club now gets to arrogantly thumb its nose at the rest of the comp and proclaim that being a member is an honour. How honourable is it to drug your own players?
Until Hird (and anyone else involved in the process) is sacked....sorry Bombers you still stink.
I think they will try to appeal, WADA will step in if they do not.
I am not unhappy the players were found not guilty, its the football department that I feel should all be out of a job, out of pocket and possibly facing jail time.
I am not unhappy the players were found not guilty, its the football department that I feel should all be out of a job, out of pocket and possibly facing jail time.
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There a s**t stain on the comp
Then the comp (and that includes all of us) should clean it up.
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agree ,i wish 17 clubs presidents would step in and let the afl know what where all thinking about them trying to protect there brand whyll letting the drug cheats get away with doping ,lets hope other teams dont follow
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Just saw the Syd vs Ess replay and the crowd booed heartily when Hird was shown on the screen. Amazingly one of the commentators said that was a bit unfair! Until anyone that was involved is punished, they deserve all the booing they get.
I've only judged one other footy person this harshly before. His name was Jimmy O'Dea. Hird must go, whilst he is allowed to be a coach...the EF club and this comp STINKS.
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ASADA can't win this case now......but WADA can
Meet the millionaire who struck Bombers peace deal
A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE Essendon coterie member has emerged as the fixer who brokered a peace deal between the Bombers and a key ASADA witness.
Sir Skid
http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/meet...mbers-peace-deal/story-fni0fiyv-1227292301387
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Even blues fans are shocked at this. Using dodgy characters and cash to keep a witness quiet.
Gillan McLaughlin....your move next? Do you really want to be in charge of a comp as sleazy as this? Do something about HIRD.
WADA press the case.
Regardless of the verdict, Hird will be a massive stain on the comp and his club for years to come. To think that their dickhead players are supporting him even though he exposed them to dangerous practices is laughable. Roll on a bottom 8 finish and pray that Little throws Hird out.
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Agree the Longer Hird is still in the AFL. Makes the Heads at AFL House look like Amauters
Typical AFL looking after the "boys" than the integrity of the comp. Not surprised at all the players were found not guilty.
And of course all the AFL's buddies in the media will cheer it along.
I can't believe Hird is still coaching, it's disgraceful.
And of course all the AFL's buddies in the media will cheer it along.
I can't believe Hird is still coaching, it's disgraceful.
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Last night I was watching 'Talking Footy' on Channel 7 and Tim Watson just couldn't help himself last night. He was whinging about an article in The Age written by Roy Masters who was critical of the Essendon's supplement saga and the fallout of the decision made last Tuesday. I thought his articles about the saga have been great and really aligned with the thoughts of many here and elsewhere.
Watson then asserted that everyone was 'sick of the saga', even though most people would rather hear the truth no matter how ugly it may be so he doesn't speak for me or countless others here who want to hear what really happened at Windy Hill and he said that the decision was made by an independent tribunal and there wasn't enough evidence to establish Essendon's guilt, yet he conveniently forgets that the evidence was either never retained of Essendon supplementation of substances or Essendon destroyed evidence that would have clearly established their guilt in the first place.
Watson and Essendon can mollycoddle it all they like but the general footy public isn't so stupid to fall for your rhetoric and that's why Essendon will always be a tainted club for mine. The mere fact that Hird is still coaching the club is absurd.
Watson then asserted that everyone was 'sick of the saga', even though most people would rather hear the truth no matter how ugly it may be so he doesn't speak for me or countless others here who want to hear what really happened at Windy Hill and he said that the decision was made by an independent tribunal and there wasn't enough evidence to establish Essendon's guilt, yet he conveniently forgets that the evidence was either never retained of Essendon supplementation of substances or Essendon destroyed evidence that would have clearly established their guilt in the first place.
Watson and Essendon can mollycoddle it all they like but the general footy public isn't so stupid to fall for your rhetoric and that's why Essendon will always be a tainted club for mine. The mere fact that Hird is still coaching the club is absurd.
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Tim Watson should not be talking anything about this as he has Family Involved in it
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Essendon peptide records may have 'disintegrated' says Stephen Dank
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...grated-says-stephen-dank-20150414-1ml5yc.html
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...grated-says-stephen-dank-20150414-1ml5yc.html
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