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SOS in the most overrated bloke in the industry. Remember when he tried to split the pick 9 to trade for Papley, Sydney laughed at him (Pick 9 straight up would have got the deal done).
Carlton at the draft then bid on 9 Liam Henry which was matched LOL, and 10 T.Green academy matched, but had no interest in drafting 11 Flanders, 12 Pickett or 13 W.Day so he traded the pick to get Kemp and Flip instead.
Or overpaying for Saad (8) despite him being out of contract and even admitting after the standoff Adrian The Dodo bird was hard to deal with and got the better of him in trading.
 
Problem is they just watched Gold Coast do ungodly things, WC bend over backwards and Freo be nice all to their benefit. They currently have the right to bask in the aroma of their own farts until proven otherwise.
In Blair we trust

But on a serious note
I believe Richmond is extremely happy with where our current picks sit and not infatuated with any player and will take the highest rated on their board (hopefully its Lalor)

Looks like Blair wants to keep #6 as he rates the players evenly and most likely believes 1 of Smillie , Langford or Jagga will still be on the board and if a KPP is taken with #2 or #5 maybe even a choice of 2 of these players.

The dealings going on may be Blair trying to get the 3rd of the top 6/7 players that are considered to be part of the top Tier in this draft but conscious of the cost and how it effects not only this draft but also 2025 as im certain he would be planning to bring at least 1 and possibly 2 future 1st rounder in with our later picks considering there are 7 teams
St Kilda , North , Eagles , Geelong , Essendon , Gold Coast , Brisbane all mentioning they would be looking to trade back in
 
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I doubt just pick 8 would satisfy GWS for 15 and 16. I imagine we’d have to throw in 47 at a bare minimum or perhaps/probably even 32.

If they offered 15 and 16 for 8 and 32 right now I’d probably take it.

We move back 7 places in the first round (in an area where the talent looks very even) to move up 16 places from R2 into R1.

That sounds about right.

Then again, last year they traded us what turned out to be pick 24 this year, for us to move back from 17 to 18 (so that they didn’t have to settle for Darcy Wilson!), so who knows.
 

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Here’s a crazy thought.

If North do this multi-club trade and end up with multiple picks from 11 onwards (for 2), and Tarau is indeed their man, they could then use whichever of those picks they need to trade back up to 8, if he’s still on the board then.

That way, they get their man, have a guaranteed pick or two left in the first 25, and we get to do the pick 8 split that we’re open to doing.
 
Here’s a crazy thought.

If North do this multi-club trade and end up with multiple picks from 11 onwards (for 2), and Tarau is indeed their man, they could then use whichever of those picks they need to trade back up to 8, if he’s still on the board then.

That way, they get their man, have a guaranteed pick or two left in the first 25, and we get to do the pick 8 split that we’re open to doing.

see here
 
How about

Rich
Give 6 and 20
Get 2

North
Give F1 and 2
Get 6 and 8

St Kilda
Give 8
Get 20 and Norths F1

If North are going tall at 6 then it guarantees one of Draper, Langford or Smillie will be available to St Kilda otherwise they will likely miss out.
Unless Melbourne go early on a tall North can get Tauru and Armstrong. If Melbourne do go early one of those three highly rated mids will be available to North and they still get Armstrong or Tauru.
 
How about

Rich
Give 6 and 20
Get 2

North
Give F1 and 2
Get 6 and 8

St Kilda
Give 8
Get 20 and Norths F1

If North are going tall at 6 then it guarantees one of Draper, Langford or Smillie will be available to St Kilda otherwise they will likely miss out.
Unless Melbourne go early on a tall North can get Tauru and Armstrong. If Melbourne do go early one of those three highly rated mids will be available to North and they still get Armstrong or Tauru.
Gunna be fun on the night. Long way to go yet. The different machinations are great though. Heaps of possibilities.
 
How about

Rich
Give 6 and 20
Get 2

North
Give F1 and 2
Get 6 and 8

St Kilda
Give 8
Get 20 and Norths F1

If North are going tall at 6 then it guarantees one of Draper, Langford or Smillie will be available to St Kilda otherwise they will likely miss out.
Unless Melbourne go early on a tall North can get Tauru and Armstrong. If Melbourne do go early one of those three highly rated mids will be available to North and they still get Armstrong or Tauru.
Not a bad thought, but I don't think Saints fans want to reduce our hand that much. It's pretty fair for all parties pick wise though.
 
Age apparently reported the other day that Richmond don’t want to part with 6.

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Swap with Adelaide for pick 4 + change?
North still get their man (Tauru), Adelaide get Draper if they really want him, and North get some change for later in the draft (this year or next)
 
Ohh now its 6 certainties

Now go look at his rankings where he has Reid & Draper

You are struggling son go have a nap
Are you being deliberately stupid?

ONE OF CAL'S TOP SIX IS ASHCROFT.

THE OTHER FIVE ARE EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

it doesn't matter where Cal's personally RANKS a player - it matters WHERE THEY'LL BE DRAFTED.

FFS, it's absolutely obvious who the top five are. And after it, you get the "maybes" of if they'll even be top ten.

Your pick six is the first pick of the second tier, and should be considered that.
 
Problem is they just watched Gold Coast do ungodly things, WC bend over backwards and Freo be nice all to their benefit. They currently have the right to bask in the aroma of their own farts until proven otherwise.
You can't really judge trades like these anymore without knowing how much salary is being paid. Tigers would have had huge salary cap space and then got great value for their trades. I think the two are probably connected.
 

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"We" is a very broad brush given some of the demands from Richmonds peeps.

Rioli was absolute lunacy no need to pretend otherwise, it only happened coz Gold Coast. Baker was slight overs IMO (I literally agreed like 4 months ago with Morro on 15 being about right), the horror with that trade is WC of all clubs doing it. Bolton was about right IMO, I was more just chucking in Freo to not be bias.

Maybe North are as desperate as Gold Coast, not exactly beacons of list management excellence in recent times.
Agreeing with Morro

The BF equivalent of buying a parrot and teaching it to repeat you
 
Are you being deliberately stupid?

ONE OF CAL'S TOP SIX IS ASHCROFT.

THE OTHER FIVE ARE EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

it doesn't matter where Cal's personally RANKS a player - it matters WHERE THEY'LL BE DRAFTED.

FFS, it's absolutely obvious who the top five are. And after it, you get the "maybes" of if they'll even be top ten.

Your pick six is the first pick of the second tier, and should be considered that.

have you actually been to any Coates League U18s games this year, or the national championship?
 
You can't really judge trades like these anymore without knowing how much salary is being paid. Tigers would have had huge salary cap space and then got great value for their trades. I think the two are probably connected.
The reports after was it was Nil. Baker we couldn't.
 
North are desperate to get multiple first round picks in this draft. Only holding picks 2 & 62 as is.
Richmond pretty happy with what they have and won’t be trading out of this draft until later in the first round.
North does not want Stkilda’s f1 unless it can trade it to another club for a first round pick this year.
10 & 20 should go close to getting pick 2 from North. Unless they get a better offer(doubtful).




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Almost certainly Smillie, but sure.
So you do see then that clubs could who are in the top 5 could take a player from outside your top 5.

With all of the ructions this year at the Dees with both Petracca and Oliver exploring their options and Viney getting on they could well target a big bodied mid, both from a developmental perspective and as a hedge against players leaving, so Smillie comes into play.

North could well say "stuff it" and take Tauru at 2, not saying it will happen but it's a possibility. Maybe the Dees have Tauru higher on their board and could pounce, again, another possibility.

Just saying that your top 5 rankings could be different to how clubs have rated players on their boards
 
"We" is a very broad brush given some of the demands from Richmonds peeps.

Rioli was absolute lunacy no need to pretend otherwise, it only happened coz Gold Coast. Baker was slight overs IMO (I literally agreed like 4 months ago with Morro on 15 being about right), the horror with that trade is WC of all clubs doing it. Bolton was about right IMO, I was more just chucking in Freo to not be bias.

Maybe North are as desperate as Gold Coast, not exactly beacons of list management excellence in recent times.

That's a laugh

I got banned from the Baker thread for saying Baker was worth 10-15.

Everyone was in complete denial about it, right up to and including the day the trade went through
 

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