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I doubt just pick 8 would satisfy GWS for 15 and 16. I imagine we’d have to throw in 47 at a bare minimum or perhaps/probably even 32.

If they offered 15 and 16 for 8 and 32 right now I’d probably take it.

We move back 7 places in the first round (in an area where the talent looks very even) to move up 16 places from R2 into R1.

That sounds about right.

Then again, last year they traded us what turned out to be pick 24 this year, for us to move back from 17 to 18 (so that they didn’t have to settle for Darcy Wilson!), so who knows.
 
Here’s a crazy thought.

If North do this multi-club trade and end up with multiple picks from 11 onwards (for 2), and Tarau is indeed their man, they could then use whichever of those picks they need to trade back up to 8, if he’s still on the board then.

That way, they get their man, have a guaranteed pick or two left in the first 25, and we get to do the pick 8 split that we’re open to doing.
 

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Here’s a crazy thought.

If North do this multi-club trade and end up with multiple picks from 11 onwards (for 2), and Tarau is indeed their man, they could then use whichever of those picks they need to trade back up to 8, if he’s still on the board then.

That way, they get their man, have a guaranteed pick or two left in the first 25, and we get to do the pick 8 split that we’re open to doing.

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How about

Rich
Give 6 and 20
Get 2

North
Give F1 and 2
Get 6 and 8

St Kilda
Give 8
Get 20 and Norths F1

If North are going tall at 6 then it guarantees one of Draper, Langford or Smillie will be available to St Kilda otherwise they will likely miss out.
Unless Melbourne go early on a tall North can get Tauru and Armstrong. If Melbourne do go early one of those three highly rated mids will be available to North and they still get Armstrong or Tauru.
 
How about

Rich
Give 6 and 20
Get 2

North
Give F1 and 2
Get 6 and 8

St Kilda
Give 8
Get 20 and Norths F1

If North are going tall at 6 then it guarantees one of Draper, Langford or Smillie will be available to St Kilda otherwise they will likely miss out.
Unless Melbourne go early on a tall North can get Tauru and Armstrong. If Melbourne do go early one of those three highly rated mids will be available to North and they still get Armstrong or Tauru.
Gunna be fun on the night. Long way to go yet. The different machinations are great though. Heaps of possibilities.
 
How about

Rich
Give 6 and 20
Get 2

North
Give F1 and 2
Get 6 and 8

St Kilda
Give 8
Get 20 and Norths F1

If North are going tall at 6 then it guarantees one of Draper, Langford or Smillie will be available to St Kilda otherwise they will likely miss out.
Unless Melbourne go early on a tall North can get Tauru and Armstrong. If Melbourne do go early one of those three highly rated mids will be available to North and they still get Armstrong or Tauru.
Not a bad thought, but I don't think Saints fans want to reduce our hand that much. It's pretty fair for all parties pick wise though.
 
Age apparently reported the other day that Richmond don’t want to part with 6.

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Swap with Adelaide for pick 4 + change?
North still get their man (Tauru), Adelaide get Draper if they really want him, and North get some change for later in the draft (this year or next)
 
Ohh now its 6 certainties

Now go look at his rankings where he has Reid & Draper

You are struggling son go have a nap
Are you being deliberately stupid?

ONE OF CAL'S TOP SIX IS ASHCROFT.

THE OTHER FIVE ARE EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

it doesn't matter where Cal's personally RANKS a player - it matters WHERE THEY'LL BE DRAFTED.

FFS, it's absolutely obvious who the top five are. And after it, you get the "maybes" of if they'll even be top ten.

Your pick six is the first pick of the second tier, and should be considered that.
 
Problem is they just watched Gold Coast do ungodly things, WC bend over backwards and Freo be nice all to their benefit. They currently have the right to bask in the aroma of their own farts until proven otherwise.
You can't really judge trades like these anymore without knowing how much salary is being paid. Tigers would have had huge salary cap space and then got great value for their trades. I think the two are probably connected.
 
"We" is a very broad brush given some of the demands from Richmonds peeps.

Rioli was absolute lunacy no need to pretend otherwise, it only happened coz Gold Coast. Baker was slight overs IMO (I literally agreed like 4 months ago with Morro on 15 being about right), the horror with that trade is WC of all clubs doing it. Bolton was about right IMO, I was more just chucking in Freo to not be bias.

Maybe North are as desperate as Gold Coast, not exactly beacons of list management excellence in recent times.
Agreeing with Morro

The BF equivalent of buying a parrot and teaching it to repeat you
 
Are you being deliberately stupid?

ONE OF CAL'S TOP SIX IS ASHCROFT.

THE OTHER FIVE ARE EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

it doesn't matter where Cal's personally RANKS a player - it matters WHERE THEY'LL BE DRAFTED.

FFS, it's absolutely obvious who the top five are. And after it, you get the "maybes" of if they'll even be top ten.

Your pick six is the first pick of the second tier, and should be considered that.

have you actually been to any Coates League U18s games this year, or the national championship?
 

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You can't really judge trades like these anymore without knowing how much salary is being paid. Tigers would have had huge salary cap space and then got great value for their trades. I think the two are probably connected.
The reports after was it was Nil. Baker we couldn't.
 
North are desperate to get multiple first round picks in this draft. Only holding picks 2 & 62 as is.
Richmond pretty happy with what they have and won’t be trading out of this draft until later in the first round.
North does not want Stkilda’s f1 unless it can trade it to another club for a first round pick this year.
10 & 20 should go close to getting pick 2 from North. Unless they get a better offer(doubtful).




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Almost certainly Smillie, but sure.
So you do see then that clubs could who are in the top 5 could take a player from outside your top 5.

With all of the ructions this year at the Dees with both Petracca and Oliver exploring their options and Viney getting on they could well target a big bodied mid, both from a developmental perspective and as a hedge against players leaving, so Smillie comes into play.

North could well say "stuff it" and take Tauru at 2, not saying it will happen but it's a possibility. Maybe the Dees have Tauru higher on their board and could pounce, again, another possibility.

Just saying that your top 5 rankings could be different to how clubs have rated players on their boards
 
Well, if that is the case you should put your F1 on the table and see if you can organise a three-way trade that satisfies us.
Yeah can't see you guys taking on the liability of finding a suitor for the F1. Would need to be a 3 way trade.
 
How about

Rich
Give 6 and 20
Get 2

North
Give F1 and 2
Get 6 and 8

St Kilda
Give 8
Get 20 and Norths F1

If North are going tall at 6 then it guarantees one of Draper, Langford or Smillie will be available to St Kilda otherwise they will likely miss out.
Unless Melbourne go early on a tall North can get Tauru and Armstrong. If Melbourne do go early one of those three highly rated mids will be available to North and they still get Armstrong or Tauru.
What a terrible deal.

We want pick 2 and you have not only crafted a scenario that Richmond gets it. But we help facilitate and we use p8 in doing so for p20 in this draft and a future pick we don’t want as we literally 2 days ago told Jay Clark we want more first round picks not less.

Hence why our future first was the offer along with p7.

P8 would then be the pick we try and slide back with.
 

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