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Eddie: Pies selfish
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Never let the truth get in the way of a good story, eh?
The "gun to his head" was the fact he wanted to continue coaching. And there was no guarantee that was going to happen if he didn't agree to the plan. As frantelle noted, there was much conjecture about his job at the time and the plan gave Eddie the best of both world's in that he didn't have to sack Mick and got to retain and potentially deliver an apprenticeship to, a guy he's a fanboi of in Buckley. This was an Eddie decision and as mentioned, at the time, in theory, it looked like a good one. It's just as time went on, it looked like a poor one and now it's been executed, it hasn't turned out very well to this point. You yourself have said this, but will give it another year.
I'm not painting Mick as a victim of anything. I'm just pointing out that he was indeed moved on from the role of senior coach and that if the choice was his and his alone, he would have continued coaching and likely have never even signed the succession plan.
There would have been all kinds of pressures. To quieten the speculation that seemed to be putting pressure on the club around the time it was making a solid run at another premiership. To keep the players in a bubble and soften them from talks of petitions. And yes, probably to maintain as peaceful balance as possible with these guys behind the scenes. It doesn't mean someone would have to have come up and asked him directly to write the stuff, but the content appears to have been as much puff piece as anything. Even you have admitted he'd probably already decided not to the role by that point. And there's other false info in their as well.
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I think you're underestimating how far away Collingwood looked from a premiership (despite being a top 4-6 side) at the time. As a long-time fan, it really looked a long way off, even though we were thereabouts for a few years. The premiership side of 2010 was extremely young, and probably reached that height 2-3 years earlier than expected.
that's not an argument.
there's no doubt mick signed a contract that would at least give another couple of years at the helm, even given its draconian measures. the alternative wasn't great.
I'm not underestimating anything. As I've said, I thought the plan looked solid at the time it was made. I wouldn't have been surprised if Malthouse was given the arse at the time either, although as we know now, that would have been a mistake. My issue is that things change and you have to change with them. In Collingwood's case, things changed and they stuck to an old, outdated plan. I have no issues with Buckley, just that the timing of his ascension to the top job was very poorly timed in the end.
I also agree with your comments about the list being so young. It's why I dismiss the excuse of many Pies posters that the team should have been expected to fall away no matter who was coach.
A pervasiveness of selfishness
A pervasiveness of selfishness
A pervasiveness of selfishness
A pervasiveness of selfishness
that's just such an awkward, clumsy thing to say. its weird to read. i feel embarrassed.
A pervasiveness of selfishness
A pervasiveness of selfishness
A pervasiveness of selfishness
that's just such an awkward, clumsy thing to say. its weird to read. i feel embarrassed.
So you are strongly supporting this post...
I kinda don't want to argue over this "COLLINGWOOD MURDERED MICK MALTHOUSE" point of view.
Because...
well...
Mick Malthouse's life was not threatened (or taken) by Collingwood.
(Last I heard... he was still alive? Yeah??)
Never heard of an analogy?
And you reckoned I needed help. LOL
Worst analogy ever.
Malthouse's performance in late 2011 and especially matchday in the 2011 GF simply confirmed he was finished as a senior afl coach. His efforts at Carl this year were further reinforcement - don't let the fact they win a final get in the way of the bottom line that Carl did not win enough games to finish in the 8 and therefore malthouse could do no better than ratten in 2012. They were embarrassed by a skeleton swans side in week 2 which showed how far off the mark they were.
I have little doubt that when we look back in say 10 years time the overwhelming consensus will be that the succession plan was a masterstroke by the pies
I have little doubt that when we look back in say 10 years time the overwhelming consensus will be that the succession plan was a masterstroke by the pies
Well, given you took it so literally, I'd say any critique of yours is meaningless
Seriously...
Worst analogy ever.
You compared signing a $5m contract to negotiating being executed!
Oh the humanity!
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Is it just me (as an outsider) or does that sound like Eddie having a whinge about players asking for more Dosh since 2010? (Dawes, Cloke and now Thomas)
Eddie seems to think that any player is privileged enough to play for Collingwood and that being paid is a bonus so takes it as a personal affront when they seek some alternative offers elsewhere.
Maybe I am wrong and he is referring to on field stuff like Shaws' antics but previous history from Eddie is not balanced when it comes to his comments on players leaving versus coming to the club.
Eddie seems to think that any player is privileged enough to play for Collingwood and that being paid is a bonus so takes it as a personal affront when they seek some alternative offers elsewhere.
Maybe I am wrong and he is referring to on field stuff like Shaws' antics but previous history from Eddie is not balanced when it comes to his comments on players leaving versus coming to the club.
Its the classic hypocrisy of when a player leaves Eddie has a go at them for not being loyal, but of course the club can flick players whenever it wants, even if they want to play on and have played at collingwood their whole career like Didak. Giving Didak and Jolly etc the flick is the right call, but Eddie doesnt have to backhand Thomas, Shaw & Co on their way out of the club.
Theres apparent culture problems at Collingwood and a mini exodus...but we all know from the workplace that while you can have some just bad workers, alot of the times it starts from the top. I think Eddie and Buckley are taking a hard line stance 'my way or the highway' approach and its rubbing some players the wrong way. Its never enjoyable to work in those kinds of environments.
Was it just me or did Pendlebury not look too happy when he received his award at the B+F? Or maybe thats how he always looks...
So when did this happen? The only quality player I can recall Collingwood losing that they would have wanted to stay since Eddie took over is Paul Williams and he was made a life memebr immediately on retirement from Sydney. Scotland was pushed by Malthouse. Tarrant was traded at Collingwood's instigation. Neither were criticised and Tarrant was taken back.
Who exactly has Eddie criticised after they left Collingwood?
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Haha ok... so he led a team to the minor premiership with 20 wins and a % of 170... and by the GF just weeks later he'd completely lost it as a coach and was finished??
Good one.
Haha, an Essendon supporter talking about people being controlled.
Your whole coaching panel and their friends ran the show down at Essendon over the last 2 years.
Ratten. He's more carlton than mm daisy swann are pies... you treated him like shit and wouldnt even wait til the end of the season to piss him off.
Because AFL players all commit suicide or cease to exist after their careers are finished?
They won a premiership THREE years ago. We've given them plenty of cheers for that. They don't need to attend the B & F to receive it again.
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