Essendon sign Mal Michael

[Lance Uppercut]

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Bring it on...

*drools*

 

[*Danni*]

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But if the AFL have already agreed to it, as they have, it's an entirely moot point as there won't be any legal action.

If it's a concern, legislate so it doesn't happen again. I liked your idea around that. But this horse has bolted.

Who said the AFL hav agreed to it? I must have missed an article this morning. I thought it was reported that Michael and Essendon have come to an agreement. That's different to the AFL agreeing to it. Not being arguementative here, I'm seriously asking if you can point me to where it's a done deal and contract lodged and accepted with the AFL.

 

[one_twelve112]

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I find this behavior very "Un-Aus.....Un-Papua New Guinean"

 

[BrisGirl]

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It makes you wonder why we refused to trade him in the 1st place, and opened up this possibility.


I hope our supporters don't turn on him as they seem to be.

Him and Aka, bailing when the going gets tough.

They can both bugger off, and yes, I have turned on him, along with Aka, as as they have turned away from us. Why should we be magnanimous.

 

[loyallion]

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no examples? What a surprise. You're not what you'd call a deep thinker, are you?

Look I really dont care what you have to say in any other persons eyes it would be a low act but I wouldnt expect you to understand been a bumbers fan and all. The afl will look into this and you will see it for yourself.

 

[Scruba]

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lol @ sheedy

 

[ant555]

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Should we encourge this contrived style of trading?

If the AFL does not put a stop to this it may become and epidemic....

It wont be an epidemic. For a start the club has to agree to release the player from his contract. Clubs are not simply going to release players from contracts all the time so that is one reason it wont start a trend. The other thing that can fix it is the clubs get the player involved to sign an agreement that they wont play footy for the duration of the contract they are being released from.
To be honest all this talk of epidemics is a very knee jerk reaction.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

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Look I really dont care what you have to say in any other persons eyes it would be a low act but I wouldnt expect you to understand been a bumbers fan and all. The afl will look into this and you will see it for yourself.

I'm not saying it's classy behaviour from Michael, but as a "loyal lion" you should appreciate that that loyal servant of your club has had a change of heart. He's not a product, he's a person. He's given you years of good service, and the behaviour of "loyal" Brisbane fans turning on him is pretty low in itself.

 

[campbell]

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Him and Aka, bailing when the going gets tough.

They can both bugger off, and yes, I have turned on him, along with Aka, as as they have turned away from us. Why should we be magnanimous.

So you know exactly what happened to both of them this season at the club.How it came to be Mal was so miserable playing for us.These 2 have been champions at our club and we just cast them off, and blame them only for any of this.Thats very narrow sighted.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

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Him and Aka, bailing when the going gets tough.

They can both bugger off, and yes, I have turned on him, along with Aka, as as they have turned away from us. Why should we be magnanimous.

so in reality you don't care about the players, you only care about the fortune of your club? That's plain selfish. Why do you get the right to be selfish, but the actual players sweating and bleeding for your club don't have the same right?

You're a disgrace

 

[ant555]

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Look I really dont care what you have to say in any other persons eyes it would be a low act but I wouldnt expect you to understand been a bumbers fan and all. The afl will look into this and you will see it for yourself.

It can look like a low act , i can see how it looks suspect but in all honesty how can it be proven one way or another. The AFL will look at it but what can they do. Essendon say it spoke to him after he retired. Micheal says he realised he made the wrong choice after spending 3 weeks or so thinking about it after he retired. What can the AFL do?
I can see it from both sides but there is no solid proof either way.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

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Who said the AFL hav agreed to it? I must have missed an article this morning. I thought it was reported that Michael and Essendon have come to an agreement. That's different to the AFL agreeing to it. Not being arguementative here, I'm seriously asking if you can point me to where it's a done deal and contract lodged and accepted with the AFL.

ok, I can't do that. But there won't be legal action over this IMO. There can't be, unless there can be proof of illegality, and I don't believe there can possibly be. Mal Michael has had a change of heart, and currently rules don't state he can't go to another club.

 

[fearlessone77]

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In ohter news Michael Voss is better then Buckley who in turn is better than Hird who is going to be awarded the 4 points from the Tasmanian SIren fiasco between ST Kilda and Fremantle. ALl of this has pissed off Hawthorn who beleive they should be compensated those 4 points for choosing Hodge ahead of Judd. But everyone else doesnt care anymore including Grant Thomas who cant coach.

 

[Corpuscles]

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Absolutely, if we approached him whilst still contracted, there'd be an issue. But there's no suggestion we did. Essendon have fallen on their feet here, and played it smart. I'd be very surprised if anyone could prove that we spoke to him. After the decision to cut Michael was made, and no legal relationship exists, we can speak with anyone we like.

The spirit of it is where the debate lies. But I think that's between Michael and Brisbane, not Essendon.

Uppercut,

Take off the black and rosy red glasses.... here is a senario end of 2007

Grumpy old sheeds looses more testosterone, and a few more marbles, and this potential recruiting triumph, becomes a disaster and you get the 2007 spoon ! (Mal last seen with a tribe of canibals in the rainforests of PNG in May2007)

There is discontent
WC wake up and decide they want Lucas at CHF rust or bust
Swans say we need another McVeigh
Solly calls a few of the young guns and says come over to Freo we only just missed out and will be certain GF' next year

They all go to club Essendon and say we all retire.... keep us on the list if you dare we will not put our heart into it because you wont trade us.

PSD bonanza!!!!!!

Still happy?

 

[loyallion]

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I'm not saying it's classy behaviour from Michael, but as a "loyal lion" you should appreciate that that loyal servant of your club has had a change of heart. He's not a product, he's a person. He's given you years of good service, and the behaviour of "loyal" Brisbane fans turning on him is pretty low in itself.

Ok put the shoe on the other foot for a minute ok What if James Hird retired from Essendon saying he just didnt have what it takes to play on that he lost the passion for the game etc and within 4 weeks the Lions pursue him and then say he will be playing for them next year how the ******** would you feel? would you feel cheated? angered? annoyed etc? Well thats how I and alot of other Lions supportersfeel right now ok what he did was just plain dirty and wrong as simple as that.

For the record mate this has nothing to do with my loyality what Mal Micheal is a low life dog for doing this and alot of others would agree with me. What he has done to the Lions is basically told them to go stick your club up your ass what he has done is not very loyal.
It goes to show how much respect he had for the Lions afterall doesnt it.?

 

[ant555]

The most intersting thing here for me is that it seems that a lot of people have never made a decison then realised it was not what they wanted and changed their mind , or made a decision to change their life/job for what they think will make them happier. In fact all of these people have never done anything wrong at all and are so pure that it isnt funny

 

[*Danni*]

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ok, I can't do that. But there won't be legal action over this IMO. There can't be, unless there can be proof of illegality, and I don't believe there can possibly be. Mal Michael has had a change of heart, and currently rules don't state he can't go to another club.

Yeah there can be legal action over it. It's would be presented as a case of just because it doesn't say you can't do it this way, doesn't automatically mean you can do it that way. Keep in mind too the Lions don't just have a legal team, they've got a lawyer as the CEO. I would bet my house on the fact that any and all legal avenues are being explored right now. Personally I think that if their chances are even only 50/50 in getting a satisfactory outcome (and that will depend on what the outcome is they want), they would pursue it.

 

[skilts]

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Him and Aka, bailing when the going gets tough.

They can both bugger off, and yes, I have turned on him, along with Aka, as as they have turned away from us. Why should we be magnanimous.

Oh well, you lose some, you lose some. Seeing Aker was prevented from playing by Brisbane, to say he bailed is a cavalier interpretation.

You don't have to be magnanimous, but if you were to examine where being bitter and twisted about Aker has got the club's supporters, indifference might be seen as another option.

Anyway, surely the whole mess is Aker's fault (or so everyone has told us ad nauseum), why blame Mal? I wonder how many players have to leave the club before we look for the real culprits.

 

[frankc]

Very poor from both Mal Michael and Essendon.

 

[*Danni*]

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Ok put the shoe on the other foot for a minute ok What if James Hird retired from Essendon saying he just didnt have what it takes to play on that he lost the passion for the game etc and within 4 weeks the Lions pursue him and then say he will be playing for them next year how the ******** would you feel? would you feel cheated? angered? annoyed etc? Well thats how I and alot of other Lions supportersfeel right now ok what he did was just plain dirty and wrong as simple as that.

For the record mate this has nothing to do with my loyality what Mal Micheal is a low life dog for doing this and alot of others would agree with me. What he has done to the Lions is basically told them to go stick your club up your ass what he has done is not very loyal.
It goes to show how much respect he had for the Lions afterall doesnt it.?

OMG, what a tirade. You are forgetting one thing - WE DIDN'T OWN HIM. What we owned were the rights to use his talents. He's a friggin human being, not a robot.

How about getting angry at the right people? Maybe the club for refusing to entertain a trade? Or the AFL for not having this sort of situation already legislated? Or the man in the moon for not sending the right magnetic fields to change the tides to ones that floated Mal's boat to the Gabba doors? Seriously, attacking the man's fundamental integrity is a low dog act. You have no proof either way. It's one thing to be disappointed and upset, it's another to tear a man's integrity to shreds with no proof.

 

[ant555]

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Uppercut,

Take off the black and rosy red glasses.... here is a senario end of 2007

Grumpy old sheeds looses more testosterone, and a few more marbles, and this potential recruiting triumph, becomes a disaster and you get the 2007 spoon ! (Mal last seen with a tribe of canibals in the rainforests of PNG in May2007)

There is discontent
WC wake up and decide they want Lucas at CHF rust or bust
Swans say we need another McVeigh
Solly calls a few of the young guns and says come over to Freo we only just missed out and will be certain GF' next year

They all go to club Essendon and say we all retire.... keep us on the list if you dare we will not put our heart into it because you wont trade us.

PSD bonanza!!!!!!

Still happy?

1) we dont finish at least 10th or above next year Sheedy wont be with us.
2) you really have got a hold of it if you think the club would release multiple players from contract so they can retire.
3) like i have said a number of times, only takes the club to say ok you can retire but you cant play for the duration of the contract we are letting you out of.

I could say take an unbiased view of it!!

 

[Lance Uppercut]

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Uppercut,

Take off the black and rosy red glasses.... here is a senario end of 2007

Grumpy old sheeds looses more testosterone, and a few more marbles, and this potential recruiting triumph, becomes a disaster and you get the 2007 spoon ! (Mal last seen with a tribe of canibals in the rainforests of PNG in May2007)

There is discontent
WC wake up and decide they want Lucas at CHF rust or bust
Swans say we need another McVeigh
Solly calls a few of the young guns and says come over to Freo we only just missed out and will be certain GF' next year

They all go to club Essendon and say we all retire.... keep us on the list if you dare we will not put our heart into it because you wont trade us.

PSD bonanza!!!!!!

Still happy?

points for effort Corpuscles, but come off it mate. I'm not going to give you any sanctimonious bull******** about players not leaving a great club like Essendon, but I'm sure you can agree the scenario you outline has infinitely less chance of happening as us winning the premiership next year and delivering Michael another flag.

I'm not saying that I think it's all necessarily within the "spirit" of the game, but everyone is so quick to say it's tampering. It's all ill-informed opinion, including mine.

As of now, Michael has had a change of heart, and Essendon have captilised.

Any talk of an epidemic of this occuring is just plain ignorant. It won't happen.

 

[skilts]

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Ok put the shoe on the other foot for a minute ok What if James Hird retired from Essendon saying he just didnt have what it takes to play on that he lost the passion for the game etc and within 4 weeks the Lions pursue him and then say he will be playing for them next year how the ******** would you feel? would you feel cheated? angered? annoyed etc? Well thats how I and alot of other Lions supportersfeel right now ok what he did was just plain dirty and wrong as simple as that.

For the record mate this has nothing to do with my loyality what Mal Micheal is a low life dog for doing this and alot of others would agree with me. What he has done to the Lions is basically told them to go stick your club up your ass what he has done is not very loyal.
It goes to show how much respect he had for the Lions afterall doesnt it.?

If people like you run the club, he owes them no loyalty. That so many Brisbane supporters have become so upset is predictable, but also impotently pathetic. If a company treats their employees like garbage, that's what they'll get in return. This really is a hoot. Think fowls returning to their place of residence for the night.

 

[Borgsta]

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Wow what a strange sequence of events. I certainly agree with Danni's thoughts about players coming out of retirement automatically go back to their old club as long as the contract was still there.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

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Yeah there can be legal action over it. It's would be presented as a case of just because it doesn't say you can't do it this way, doesn't automatically mean you can do it that way. Keep in mind too the Lions don't just have a legal team, they've got a lawyer as the CEO. I would bet my house on the fact that any and all legal avenues are being explored right now. Personally I think that if their chances are even only 50/50 in getting a satisfactory outcome (and that will depend on what the outcome is they want), they would pursue it.

I'm sure all avenues are being pursued as well, and they should be if the club is looking after it's own interests. And I could well be wrong. But IMO, as in your opinion, it has bugger all chance of getting up. This horse has bolted. And the most important thing in all this is:

WE DIDN'T OWN HIM. What we owned were the rights to use his talents. He's a friggin human being, not a robot.

How about getting angry at the right people? Maybe the club for refusing to entertain a trade? Or the AFL for not having this sort of situation already legislated? Or the man in the moon for not sending the right magnetic fields to change the tides to ones that floated Mal's boat to the Gabba doors? Seriously, attacking the man's fundamental integrity is a low dog act. You have no proof either way. It's one thing to be disappointed and upset, it's another to tear a man's integrity to shreds with no proof.

What a brilliant post. Very, very, very well said.