F1 F1 2023 - The Rise of Oscar

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Max is so reserved at the end. Weirdly, Hamilton isn't showing as finished. Norris nearly got Ocon but overcooked it, not that it matters due to his penalty.
 
Really missing something with the crew not allowed to celebrate at the fence, always thought that was a cool spectacle. Just had to police it better.
The grandstand with Ricciardo and Arnett was not great imo, changed it within 2 minutes of the start of the race.
Sucks that the RB car is so reliable. Would have been nice to see someone different win but I am enjoying Perez underperforming
 
What an absolute waste of a race that was for Oscar. Started off with some great overtakes, but then just went backwards when he got onto the hard tyres. Getting overtaken by your teammate in the same, car is not a good look, even for a rookie.

Safety car killed him. He had clean air in front and behind, I think it was Albon creating a nice roadblock behind him. Pitted under safety car, 5 behind him didn't and that was the end of his race.
 

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The reviews on social media of the grandstand with d ric are brutal. Probably fair tbh.
Sounds like it was for the really casual fan who might have only ever watched DTS and maybe some of the North American GPs if this is anything to go on




If that is true its no wonder it wasn't that successful. While the ManningCast (the ESPN2 coverage of certain MNF NFL games) has lots of guests too, it also has plenty of more technical analysis that the regular broadcast would never do which makes it a good watch for people of all different levels of interest in the sport
 
A bit embarrassing for Oscar to get passed by a teammate butb it didn't matter anyway.
Norris obviously watched Bathurst 2019 with how far he backed up the field to avoid a double stack.
 
Watched the mini as that was all that was up this morning.
Can’t workout how Piastri and Norris went from 5th and 6th after pitting under safety car and dropped down 5 or so spots to those that didn’t pit, yet the front 4 pitted and were ahead still.

All a matter of track position and clean air. As is always the way with McLaren race disappointment, they were stuck in traffic behind slow(er) cars at inopportune times, then overtaken on track by drivers in faster machinery.

From the excellent race fans website (How Ferrari's successful Safety Car "gamble" was prompted by their drivers · RaceFans)

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They pitted from 6th (Piastri) and 8th (Norris), after Hulkenberg and the safety car had held up the pack for the first ten laps, keeping everyone together.

After pitting they were 10th (Piastri) and 11th (Norris), behind Ocon in 9th (down from 5th, after he also pitted), and had been overtaken by the two Ferrari's (11th and 9th went to 5th and 4th), Bottas (16th to 8th), Magnussen (15th to 7th) and Perez (12th to 6th) who all stayed on track.

The Ferrari's (4th and 5th) and Perez (6th) were then over a second a lap faster than Magnussen opening up enough of a gap that their later pitstops were "free", and Albon's extended one-stop (58 laps) allowed him to take track position when the McLaren's pitted a 2nd time.

Norris spent 40 laps behind Bottas in a car that was quicker over a whole lap, not getting past until lap 64, when Bottas was struggling to even keep his 30-lap old mediums on the track.
 
I really don't get the completely moronic sentiment that it is embarrassing for Oscar to get overtaken by Lando. Lando sent it and it was a great move. Is it embarrassing for Bottas getting overtaken by Lando? Of course it ****ing isn't.

What is embarrassing is that neither Lewis or Lando were penalised for an unsafe release. They looked like slam dunk penalties.
 
I really don't get the completely moronic sentiment that it is embarrassing for Oscar to get overtaken by Lando. Lando sent it and it was a great move. Is it embarrassing for Bottas getting overtaken by Lando? Of course it ******* isn't.

What is embarrassing is that neither Lewis or Lando were penalised for an unsafe release. They looked like slam dunk penalties.
What did lando cop 5 seconds for then?
 
All a matter of track position and clean air. As is always the way with McLaren race disappointment, they were stuck in traffic behind slow(er) cars at inopportune times, then overtaken on track by drivers in faster machinery.

From the excellent race fans website (How Ferrari's successful Safety Car "gamble" was prompted by their drivers · RaceFans)

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They pitted from 6th (Piastri) and 8th (Norris), after Hulkenberg and the safety car had held up the pack for the first ten laps, keeping everyone together.

After pitting they were 10th (Piastri) and 11th (Norris), behind Ocon in 9th (down from 5th, after he also pitted), and had been overtaken by the two Ferrari's (11th and 9th went to 5th and 4th), Bottas (16th to 8th), Magnussen (15th to 7th) and Perez (12th to 6th) who all stayed on track.

The Ferrari's (4th and 5th) and Perez (6th) were then over a second a lap faster than Magnussen opening up enough of a gap that their later pitstops were "free", and Albon's extended one-stop (58 laps) allowed him to take track position when the McLaren's pitted a 2nd time.

Norris spent 40 laps behind Bottas in a car that was quicker over a whole lap, not getting past until lap 64, when Bottas was struggling to even keep his 30-lap old mediums on the track.
Thanks, the mini skipped some laps early as it seemed like the mclarens were at the pointy end as the safety car occurred and then next minute they were at the back end of the 10
 
What did lando cop 5 seconds for then?

Driving slow under the safety car. McLaren were double stacking and he had to slow right down and hold everyone up to make it work. The FIA called it "unsportsman like conduct."
 
All a matter of track position and clean air. As is always the way with McLaren race disappointment, they were stuck in traffic behind slow(er) cars at inopportune times, then overtaken on track by drivers in faster machinery.

From the excellent race fans website (How Ferrari's successful Safety Car "gamble" was prompted by their drivers · RaceFans)

View attachment 1716591
They pitted from 6th (Piastri) and 8th (Norris), after Hulkenberg and the safety car had held up the pack for the first ten laps, keeping everyone together.

After pitting they were 10th (Piastri) and 11th (Norris), behind Ocon in 9th (down from 5th, after he also pitted), and had been overtaken by the two Ferrari's (11th and 9th went to 5th and 4th), Bottas (16th to 8th), Magnussen (15th to 7th) and Perez (12th to 6th) who all stayed on track.

The Ferrari's (4th and 5th) and Perez (6th) were then over a second a lap faster than Magnussen opening up enough of a gap that their later pitstops were "free", and Albon's extended one-stop (58 laps) allowed him to take track position when the McLaren's pitted a 2nd time.

Norris spent 40 laps behind Bottas in a car that was quicker over a whole lap, not getting past until lap 64, when Bottas was struggling to even keep his 30-lap old mediums on the track.

Not the clearest lap chart I've seen, but its a great tool to review a race. Thanks for the link, its a new site for me.
 
Not a bad race of F1.5 at least outside of Max.

Oscars pace early was so good real shame about timing of the safety car otherwise he would have been well up the road. Managed to clear Hulk? Very quickly whilst Lando was struggling to clear anyone in slower cars.

Just couldn’t get the hards working though & went backwards unfortunately - thought there was going to be points on offer today so bit dissapointing. Not sure why everyone pitted so early for a 2nd set of hards, surely could have taken another set of Mediums considering how much quicker they were and the distance the Ferraris took them (who are notorious for bad tyre deg)

Supposedly McLaren are bringing big upgrades over the next few weeks so fingers crossed Oscar has a more competitive car under him, they’ve definitely made some small improvements both with qualifying & race pace so I’m quietly confident they should at least jump the midfield & be on similar level to the Alpines.
 

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