List Mgmt. Geelong's interest in Travis Boak

[catseye]

There seems to be a little doubt in the papers in SA whether Boak will re-sign with Port, stating concerns about his personal development. It has been stated that Geelong are keen.

Question for forum - Are you keen? If so what do we need to do to get the deal done?

 

[Two Planks]

Very keen but would not sell the farm to get him. I would have thought our G Ablett compo pick (which would effectively be pick 1-5 for Port in the 2013 National Draft) would nearly be enough to get the deal done.

The biggest hurdle would be his wage demands. Surely the market value would be $400-$450k, but that would probably put him above some proven performers that have sacrificed money for team success. If we pay Boak market value then you could see a long line of players putting their hand up for more.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Very keen. Has been a good player in a horrible team. Been in a tough team to develop in. Wouldn't surprise me if he becomes a really good player once he gets a bit of protection from a deeper midfield.

If he's not happy at Port and wants a fresh start then I'd offer the compo pick. He'll have to be wanting to leave Port though because they'll offer him good cash to stay and we shouldn't be paying him too much given he'll only be a solid first teamer rather than in the top 5 players. Compo pick is the offer and no more.

 

[Two Planks]

The most likely scenario to land Boak would probably see the cats send the compo pick to GWS who would then bank the pick for the next year. GWS would then send one of the two remaining 16 year old picks to Port. Adelaide landed one of these picks this year (B.Couch) by giving up pick 10. The compo pick for GWS in the National Draft of 2013 would range from 1-10 depending on their development.

 

[Cursed Cat]

would be a very handy addition to the side.

I seem to remember Wells and the recruiting department were pretty keen on him in the '06 draft ?
From memory we were widely tipped to nab him before the unlikely boon of Selwood fell to our selection (Boak went at #5 at any rate).

He played for the Geelong Falcons too fwiw ...

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Firstly can I just thank Port for winning today, helps our ladder position.

On Boak, we know that the club was very keen on him in his draft year and pushed hard for him 2 years ago when he was last out of contract, so with him still having strong family ties here there's no reason to think we won't go hard at him again.

As with all of these things only at the right price, and Port would want a lot given he's one of the few very good talents on a list that has a lot of cloggers in it. It's hard to guage his value because he's a good player playing in a reasonably poor team where he doesn't get much protection from his fellow mids, so you'd have to project how much you think he'd improve back here, and then try and work out what the right price is.

We'll definitely have a dip again, but not convinced it'll happen.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Btw, on the compo pick, as far as I am aware it remains tied to our ladder finishing position, not the ladder position of the team we trade it to, so unfortunately it doesn't have nearly as much value (in a scenario like this) as people think it does.

 

[Cool Cat]

He is having a relatively poor year, which may see his value drop somewhat.

 

[darren forssman]

It's hard to guage his value because he's a good player playing in a reasonably poor team where he doesn't get much protection from his fellow mids

is he really that good/great?

good players in bad teams still stand out regardless, the games i have seen he hasnt. he may well realise his potential if he left port but would he would come at a big cost (ie what port would want).

 

[Turbocat]

I wonder at what point does Boak almost become almost damaged goods. Playing for Port hasn't given his cred the type boost that perhaps playing for a Hawks or a Pies outfit might have. ( Or Cats for that matter).

Now one might say thats almost reminiscent of Ottens when at Richmond , a very early draft pick plugging away at a club thats up against it.

The age is right , his underlying talent would help our side but will the cost be worth it? Is he really that good. Is he Dangerfield good?

 

[BotsMaster]

He is having a relatively poor year, which may see his value drop somewhat.

 

[darren forssman]

ottens was aa in 2001, he had shown something.

had a look at the port board, their idea of compo ranged from the absurd (2 first rounders) to our first rounder.

 

[vinum coupe]

The compo pick for GWS in the National Draft of 2013 would range from 1-10 depending on their development.

Btw, on the compo pick, as far as I am aware it remains tied to our ladder finishing position, not the ladder position of the team we trade it to, so unfortunately it doesn't have nearly as much value (in a scenario like this) as people think it does.

Correct.


I don't watch Port games to be honest so I have no idea how good he is.
He was travelling well a couple of years ago.

 

[darren forssman]

I don't watch Port games to be honest so I have no idea how good he is.
He was travelling well a couple of years ago.

the port board isnt too enamoured with him but freely admit it could be the club culture:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=947050

 

[jim boy]

The biggest hurdle would be his wage demands. Surely the market value would be $400-$450k

That would be above market value, however he is almost certainly being paid well above market value now as Port have to meet minimum cap spends. So to come to geelong he would probably have to move from above-market rates to below market rates, especially when teams like Melbourne would probably happily play him overs as well

 

[Sttew]

Btw, on the compo pick, as far as I am aware it remains tied to our ladder finishing position, not the ladder position of the team we trade it to, so unfortunately it doesn't have nearly as much value (in a scenario like this) as people think it does.

So, we tank to finish bottom 6.

Only joking. Our Ablett pick + Shannon Byrnes (premiership player)

 

[Boxhead_31]

Considering that we were tossing up between Selwood and Boak in the 2006 if we could get Travis to the club I would be stoked a centre combination of Selwood, Bundy and Boak would be a great building base for the 2015 flag tilt

 

[Pivo]

The age is right , his underlying talent would help our side but will the cost be worth it? Is he really that good. Is he Dangerfield good?

He probably isn't displaying form that would have people compare him to Dangerfield but, imo, he could become just as good. Also, I think he may be one of the more higher paid players at Port. That alone might be reason for them to off-load him considering their off-field position.

He is a different type of player to Dangerfield though.

Personally, I rate him and if Geelong managed to nab him without giving away too much it could be a big win for the Cats.

As for Port themselves, something seems amiss since Steven Salopek is playing ressie footy in the SANFL. He was a top 5 pick when Port got him and could play.

I'd be right into Boak - a great addition who could really blossom at Geelong.

 

[vinum coupe]

the port board isnt too enamoured with him but freely admit it could be the club culture:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=947050

It doesn't seem like they care.

 

[darren forssman]

As for Port themselves, something seems amiss since Steven Salopek is playing ressie footy in the SANFL. He was a top 5 pick when Port got him and could play.

a thread on him on the port board as well, not even playing ressie's this week and back home in melbourne for the week. the port posters again reckon the club culture has killed any potential he had.

It doesn't seem like they care.

yeah, apart from the mod who was after 2 first round picks the rest seemed resigned that their club cant develop talent and were happy for him to leave.

 

[Turbocat]

How quick is he Piv. Is he a great ball user or more of a conveyor , using his pace rather than his foot skills.
Who doe she play like? Have not really studied him but would we say he plays similar to Byrnes. Boak only averages a goal every second game so he is not a goal kicker.
He doesn't look like a 2xR1 pick type player to me. If he wasn't from "Geelong" would he be that interesting to us?

Not against interest in him but just asking the question , especially if 2012 is as good as 2001.

 

[Pivo]

yeah, apart from the mod who was after 2 first round picks the rest seemed resigned that their club cant develop talent and were happy for him to leave.

2 first rounders?

This is an easy one to kill off - Selwood taken two spots later.

If Boak is worth 2 first rounders what is Selwood worth?

I like Boak but there is no way known he is worth that price, especially on current output (hell, even based on senior career to date).

@turbo, Boak is a good mover, more of the outside variety but he (at least when I've seen him) is a good user of the ball. He actually reminds me a bit of James Kelly when Kelly first came to Geelong (not the tackling, inside beast Kelly is now), more the silky outside running mid.

 

[darren forssman]

the 2 first rounders were one posters opinion. the others on the board seemed happy enough with just a first rounder. from what i have seen of him i am not even sure he is worth that.

 

[Boxhead_31]

2 first rounders?

This is an easy one to kill off - Selwood taken two spots later.

If Boak is worth 2 first rounders what is Selwood worth?

I like Boak but there is no way known he is worth that price, especially on current output (hell, even based on senior career to date).

@turbo, Boak is a good mover, more of the outside variety but he (at least when I've seen him) is a good user of the ball. He actually reminds me a bit of James Kelly when Kelly first came to Geelong (not the tackling, inside beast Kelly is now), more the silky outside running mid.

That is a great comparison Piv living in Adelaide get a fair bit of the Crows/Power shoved down our throats and watching the Power games early Kelly is a very apt description for how Boak goes about his game.

That said though I do think it is in him to make a similar change as Kel did and become more of a inside extractor of the pill. At the moment he seem's to be a player who isn't sure what role his club wants him to play he doesn't know to gear himself to get the ball himself or work to space to be the creator. Is a perfect example of a player who is screaming out for the right coach/team to develop him up

 

[DanA]

I think Boak still has quite good potential. If I was to make a comparison I would say he got the potential to be a Stanton or Montagna but needs to turn things around a bit. Possibly Enright if he became a defender.

When drafted Boak seemed an intelligent, good mover, who was quite quick and had good disposal. He's not come on the last few years and now seems to have average disposal and gets caught holding the ball often. Good size at 6' and 85kgs or so. I reckon he'd be a good winger/flanker and part time midfielder.