Rumour GFC 2020 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[Cronin]

Trouble is Kreuger isn’t any good or he would be playing. Cameron is a proven performer, not sure how you can compare the two.

I think this MC are pretty set in their ways with regards to team structures and what they think works, doesn't mean he's no good.

BTW I wasn't comparing the two because I'm not a moron, merely suggesting that if we miss out on the main target then we try out the young buck who does have potential.

 

[Gunf]

But we allegedly according to media reports don't have room to sign Cameron? I used Parfitt and Henry as an example as both have recently re-signed.

It isn't that we don't have room it is that fact we don't over pay players. We have a strict salary pay structure and we wont break it for one player

And as someone else stated if we needed a little extra to get him across the line we have plenty of fringe players we could trade/delist to make room instead of hurting out best 22.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

But we allegedly according to media reports don't have room to sign Cameron? I used Parfitt and Henry as an example as both have recently re-signed.

With our retirements we have room the only reason we wouldn't is if we are bringing in 2-3 other players as well e.g. crouch + Higgins + a ruck etc.

I think it's also our payment structure that we like to stick to..we probably can pay Cameron more culturally we would just rather he come for less.

 

[Gunf]

I think this MC are pretty set in their ways with regards to team structures and what they think works, doesn't mean he's no good.

BTW I wasn't comparing the two because I'm not a moron, merely suggesting that if we miss out on the main target then we try out the young buck who does have potential.

From what i can remember (could be wrong) Freddy has been close to getting a game a few times but kept getting injured which slowed his momentum.
I truly believe that if not for injures Freddy would of played a few games by now.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Giants substantially upped their Caldwell offer from two to four years on good money.

Hopefully they know something about Cameron.

They couldn't have done that unless either Cameron or other players are gone I reckon (Hately oohalloran langdon etc).

 

[Pure_Ownage]

OOC ..worth asking about

I like him if cheap.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

They couldn't have done that unless either Cameron or other players are gone I reckon (Hately oohalloran langdon etc).

Williams?

 

[ibuprofen]

With our retirements we have room the only reason we wouldn't is if we are bringing in 2-3 other players as well e.g. crouch + Higgins + a ruck etc.

I think it's also our payment structure that we like to stick to..we probably can pay Cameron more culturally we would just rather he come for less.

Well according to reports tonight, we can't offer a deal over 750k and are out of the race if we were ever in. So contracts to whoever they are potentially going to cost Cameron. Hence, my comments apply to any new contracts signed. Parfitt, Henry it doesn't matter who, the salary space is gone.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Williams?

I'm already factoring him in as gone I reckon they need to lose 2-3 other players to fit Cameron's $ in.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Well according to reports tonight, we can't offer a deal over 750k and are out of the race if we were ever in. So contracts to whoever they are potentially going to cost Cameron. Hence, my comments apply to any new contracts signed. Parfitt, Henry it doesn't matter who, the salary space is gone.

I don't believe that source as it doesn't add up and HS is often rubbish. As mentioned if we want Cameron we can easily move players to make room..if we don't get him it won't be due to money issues.

 

[ibuprofen]

It isn't that we don't have room it is that fact we don't over pay players. We have a strict salary pay structure and we wont break it for one player

And as someone else stated if we needed a little extra to get him across the line we have plenty of fringe players we could trade/delist to make room instead of hurting out best 22.

I understand pay structures but you think Cameron is worth 750k? He's the premier forward in the league. Was just on $1.6m before covid...yet Hawk apparently just came off near a million if you believe some reports.

Who do you trade or delist to increase cap space that people would actually take and that aren't already on minimum contracts? Thats why recent signings are the issue.

 

[JohnZ]

I thought ibuprofen was anti-inflammatory.

I thought so too, but I've had a headache all day that won't go away.

 

[ibuprofen]

I don't believe that source as it doesn't add up and HS is often rubbish. As mentioned if we want Cameron we can easily move players to make room..if we don't get him it won't be due to money issues.

Who do you move that isn't best 22 or that is movable on salary that would make any difference?

 

[Sttew]

They are the same height... I thought it was obvious.

If only it was that simple

 

[catempire]

I thought so too, but I've had a headache all day that won't go away.

Did it start when you read the idea of Henry and Parfitt being traded??

 

[ibuprofen]

Did it start when you read the idea of Henry and Parfitt being traded??

You still haven't answered the question, would you trade them for Cameron? You keep making snide remarks about me but never answer the question.

Its this crappy swipe at me rather the comment. And if I'm correct, I said, one of, not both originally.

You know its ridiculous to not trade Henry for Cameron, or Parfitt for Cameron. Did you sit there are cry because Brent Moloney was traded?

 

[catempire]

You still haven't answered the question, would you trade them for Cameron? You keep making snide remarks about me but never answer the question.

Its this crappy swipe at me rather the comment. And if I'm correct, I said, one of, not both originally.

You know its ridiculous to not trade Henry for Cameron, or Parfitt for Cameron.

 

[Gunf]

I understand pay structures but you think Cameron is worth 750k? He's the premier forward in the league. Was just on $1.6m before covid...yet Hawk apparently just came off near a million if you believe some reports.

Who do you trade or delist to increase cap space that people would actually take and that aren't already on minimum contracts? Thats why recent signings are the issue.

Just last year we had the money to offer Kelly 700+ and with Taylor, Ablett retiring adding in trades and delisting of fringe players we should have plenty of cash. now what that transfers into i am not sure as i am also not sure on what our pay structures are but i do know we don't break it .

Now that structure could see Cameron getting 900k or it could be 700k unless you are in the club you and i have no idea but it is wildly known Geelong and teams like Hawthon have pay structures they stick to.

 

[ibuprofen]

Just last year we had the money to offer Kelly 700+ and with Taylor, Ablett retiring adding in trades and delisting of fringe players we should have plenty of cash. now what that transfers into i am not sure as i am also not sure on what our pay structures are but i do know we don't break it .

Now that structure could see Cameron getting 900k or it could be 700k unless you are in the club you and i have no idea but it is wildly known Geelong and teams like Hawthon have pay structures they stick to.

Yeah but at the moment with Ablett and Taylor gone we don't have the cash. And delisting someone doesn't save money if they are under contract or a minimum or low salary player.

 

[JohnZ]

Did it start when you read the idea of Henry and Parfitt being traded??

Unfortunately not. Started with a zoom meeting I'd rather have avoided.

 

[foxdog50]

50 second mark. Discussion on Crouch saying Geelong is the front runner

 

[gaz love x]

You still haven't answered the question, would you trade them for Cameron? You keep making snide remarks about me but never answer the question.

Its this crappy swipe at me rather the comment. And if I'm correct, I said, one of, not both originally.

You know its ridiculous to not trade Henry for Cameron, or Parfitt for Cameron. Did you sit there are cry because Brent Moloney was traded?

Ignoring that this hypothetical is based on fiction, if we had to make cap space we'd sign players to new contracts, either back ending the money or spreading the same money out over an extra year. ie we give Hawk or Selwood an extra year on a lower base salary. It's what Richmond did to get Lynch and it's what we already did last year with the Dangerfield and Duncan deals.

 

[MacStradbroke]

I understand pay structures but you think Cameron is worth 750k? He's the premier forward in the league. Was just on $1.6m before covid...yet Hawk apparently just came off near a million if you believe some reports.

Who do you trade or delist to increase cap space that people would actually take and that aren't already on minimum contracts? Thats why recent signings are the issue.

Premier forward in the league...coming from a Geelong supporter...stop talking.

 

[Gunf]

Yeah but at the moment with Ablett and Taylor gone we don't have the cash. And delisting someone doesn't save money if they are under contract or a minimum or low salary player.

Did you ignore the part about Kelly's cash? that plus Ablett and Taylor's money is plenty.

The money we had for Kelly last year didn't just up and vanish

 

[ibuprofen]

Premier forward in the league...coming from a Geelong supporter...stop talking.

I'll cop that. Hawks had a great year and I hope it continues.

However, Cameron is a top 2-3 Key Forward in the league over a long period of time.