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Agreed all compo if it has to stay should be end of round. That also includes round 2 and 3 etc just make it end of round 1 end of round 2 etc
My preferred thing is compo comes out of the club (adjusted by age salary etc) receiving the player and of course no RFA just UFA.
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Am i the only one that would be ok with trading Clark to Freo for pick 10? I think as a defender he is a liability to be honest, yes has pace but struggles on the defensive side and who knows if his shoulder will ever be the same.
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The players mentioned I don’t think will get traded. But for picks I doubt we’d get anyone anywhere near the talent of Cameron. The draft this year is even more of a gamble than usual. Getting a key forward and a ruck are the clear list holes for our future. Getting Cameron would be amazing for the club and our list build.
I’m not keen on Higgins or smith or any other older mids. But if Higgins comes so be it.
I’m not keen on Higgins or smith or any other older mids. But if Higgins comes so be it.
... don't mention the war. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it
P10 ..which will probably be around what we paid for him..or a tad earlier. The question is ..to what ends? For what purpose?
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Clark has proteinal to be a very good player unsure what role yet.
He needs to get stronger and learn he's role in the team.
He would suit freo list of young players coming though.
Does he want to go home ?
Its tempting - pick 10 is as good as we have had since 15? .
My view is Clark is easily the best teen pick we have taken for a decade. We would have to have a real focus on a missing component, before we trade, and be sure 10 hits the spot. Otherwise 10 plus a future second. Even then I will probably regret raising theidea
Geelong has no plans to stump up multiple first round picks in a Jeremy Cameron trade, setting up nervous wait
Gold Coast let Jack Martin go for nothing in the draft and GWS Giants may be forced to go down the same path over Jeremy Cameron to put an end to the exodus. Jay Clark outlines how it may play out.
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![[PLAYERCARD]Jeremy Cameron[/PLAYERCARD] has made a call on his future. Picture: Getty Images](/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.newsapi.com.au%2Fimage%2Fv1%2F5fbe96cce93ea0a321c0f0359326e10a%3Fwidth%3D1024&hash=8836b8059d2275f0f5eaf0cef7a66147 "[PLAYERCARD]Jeremy Cameron[/PLAYERCARD] has made a call on his future. Picture: Getty Images")
Jeremy Cameron has made a call on his future. Picture: Getty Images
Greater Western Sydney could risk losing Jeremy Cameron for nothing in the draft if the Giants stand on their heels in demanding a suitable trade with Geelong.
The Giants want to strike a deal for Cameron in a trade with Geelong and will either demand a quality young senior player or multiple early draft picks.
But the Cats have no plans to trade for Cameron and instead believe pick No. 10 as free agency compensation is adequate under the AFL’s rules.
It means Cameron, 27, faces a nervous wait over the next fortnight as the two clubs prepare for talks over the deal.
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If the two clubs can’t agree on the free agency transfer or a trade deal, Cameron would be forced to enter the pre-season draft to find his way to Geelong in a move which could raise the ire of the AFL Players’ Association.
It would be a strong stance from GWS to let Cameron go for nothing in the draft but Gold Coast did similar last year over Jack Martin (Carlton) to make a strong stance on a string of player departures.
![[PLAYERCARD]Jeremy Cameron[/PLAYERCARD] has cited family and lifestyle reasons behind his decision to leave GWS.](/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.newsapi.com.au%2Fimage%2Fv1%2F0ba2a9ba44a8fc9e5db81e4a02b18e19%3Fwidth%3D1024&hash=6af78447191a97ac2f23e2658ff6ba0b "[PLAYERCARD]Jeremy Cameron[/PLAYERCARD] has cited family and lifestyle reasons behind his decision to leave GWS.")
Jeremy Cameron has cited family and lifestyle reasons behind his decision to leave GWS.
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The Giants have lost Cameron and Zac Williams (Carlton), Jackson Hately (Adelaide) and are still trying to re-sign Jye Caldwell and Xavier O’Halloran in the face of interest from St Kilda and Essendon.
Cameron has given excellent service to the Giants over nine years and has been widely considered one of the top few key forwards in the game over the duration of his 171-game career despite falling out of form this season.
But it remains unlikely at this stage that the Giants will do Cameron any favours and grant an easy passage for him to the Cats for a single free agency compensation pick after his decision to walk out on the club for family and lifestyle reasons.
The Giants will bank on the Cats’ excellent record of completing player trades, which included sending premiership champion Steve Johnson to the Giants for a fifth-round pick the Cats were never going to use in 2016.
Geelong previously struck a trade deal to land free agent Patrick Dangerfield in 2015 and GWS is adamant it is intent on going down the same trade path with Cameron.
But the difference in the Dangerfield scenario was Geelong had an earlier pick (No. 9) than the direct compensation pick (No. 13) would have been for Adelaide.
Cameron has given excellent service to the Giants over nine years.
In the Cameron situation Geelong’s three first-round picks (No. 11, No. 15 and No. 17 or 18) all come after the compensation pick (No. 10).
It means GWS will want the Cats to package up some of their late first-round selections for an earlier choice inside the top-10 if the Cats can’t also produce a senior player in a trade deal.
Gold Coast has shown a willingness to part with pick No. 5 which the Giants would likely accept for Cameron.
Under that scenario, the Suns could ask the Cats for two of their later choices in the first round and then use one of them to try and again tempt Adam Treloar out of Collingwood.
WHAT HAPPENS IF GIANTS MATCH CATS’ CAMERON BID?
Geelong has won the race to sign GWS Giants’ superstar Jeremy Cameron in a massive boost to the club’s premiership hopes for next season.
Cameron, 27, told Giants’ coach Leon Cameron late Monday he wanted to continue his career at the Cats in 2021, where he will partner gun spearhead Tom Hawkins in attack.
But GWS has already indicated it is prepared to match the Cats’ free agency bid in an attempt to secure two first-round picks from Geelong in a trade for Cameron.
If the Giants don’t match they have to accept pick No. 10 as free agency compensation, which is widely seen as an underwhelming return for one of the best key forwards in the game.
Giants’ chief executive Dave Matthews said the club wanted a decent return for Cameron’s departure.
“The ball is in Geelong’s court to see whether they can satisfy us with a trade,” Matthews said last night.
“(Adam) Treloar and (Dylan) Shiel were worth two first-round draft picks, and they are both very good players.
“Key forwards are hard to find.”
![[PLAYERCARD]Tom Hawkins[/PLAYERCARD] goes into a Grand Final with the knowledge he will have a superstar running mate in 2021. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images](/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.newsapi.com.au%2Fimage%2Fv1%2F19a3ad38dbc1eda356abf577af260026%3Fwidth%3D1024&hash=acf7ea1ae43e549f1a1654ff459abe09 "[PLAYERCARD]Tom Hawkins[/PLAYERCARD] goes into a Grand Final with the knowledge he will have a superstar running mate in 2021. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images")
Tom Hawkins goes into a Grand Final with the knowledge he will have a superstar running mate in 2021. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Cameron’s manager Alex McDonald said the Cats were the perfect fit for Cameron at this point in his life.
“He loves the Giants and he’s been wrestling with this for some time, but it’s a family-based decision,” McDonald said on SEN.
“With his partner Indie, he’s been thinking about it for a while, to be honest. They’ve been thinking about what the future looks like for them as a couple, but the short-term focus for Jeremy was more around his own family.
“He went up there (Sydney) as a 17-year-old, he’s been up there for 10 years and the opportunity for him to come back and be back closer to family and friends in Victoria — you don’t know whether that chance will present itself again any time soon.
“He was humbled. He obviously had plenty of interest and I won’t go into the other parties out of respect for them. There’s a lot of great football clubs out there, but this one lined up beautifully with the family and the off-field lifestyle and he’s very much an outdoors person.
“All of those things combined, along with the fact the Cats are a very consistent and stable footy club, meant it lined up. It was the right time for him in the end.
“He understands there’s still a process and still lots to work through, but he’s nominated the Cats.”
It is a huge coup for Geelong and another massive endorsement of the club’s culture and list management strategy as the Cats attempt to pull off their fourth premiership in 14 years against Richmond in Saturday’s Grand Final.
But the recruiting raid is not yet complete as the Cats are expected to land North Melbourne star midfield-forward Shaun Higgins and are also circling Adelaide onballer Brad Crouch.
The arrival of Cameron and Higgins would ensure the Cats had one of the most formidable and potent attacking setups in the league next season.
Geelong has been chasing Cameron, who is from Dartmoor in Victoria’ far west, for the past two seasons as Hawkins’ long-term successor.
While Cameron has made clear he has enjoyed his nine years and 171 games in Sydney, the laid-back lifestyle in Geelong and proximity to his and his partner’s family was known to be big factors in his decision.
GWS Giants list manager Jason McCartney said the club would work to get the best outcome for the club in exchange for its nine-time leading goal kicker.
“We are disappointed to hear the news that Jeremy Cameron wants to continue his career his career at the Cats,” McCartney told the Herald Sun.
“But he is a restricted free agent and the club will consider all options available to it.”
At his best, Cameron is one of the finest forwards in the game. Picture: Michael Klein
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The Giants tried hard to keep Cameron, saying the club offered him a “suitable deal” believed to be worth about $750,000 a season over five years.
The Giants will now consider whether to accept pick No. 10 as free agency compensation or force Geelong to give up more in a trade for the two-time All-Australian and best-and-fairest winner.
The Cats have three first-round draft picks and could also nab pick No. 7 from Fremantle for the potential loss of gun young defender Jordan Clark.
Geelong is able to fit Cameron into its salary cap largely because of the loss of star midfielder Tim Kelly to West Coast last year.
Geelong budgeted to pay Kelly about $800,000 a year and will now hand that money to Cameron, although salary was not seen as the main factor in his decision.
Spearhead Hawkins is also set to receive a reduced deal for next year, while veteran Harry Taylor is weighing up retirement and Gary Ablett will play his last game in Saturday’s premiership decider, creating more space for the Cats.
![Cameron will join the likes of [PLAYERCARD]Zach Tuohy[/PLAYERCARD] at Geelong. Picture: Phil Hillyard](/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.newsapi.com.au%2Fimage%2Fv1%2F4e3f3ae0c5c07585e7483d45a7b4140e%3Fwidth%3D1024&hash=a3a3cd01e0d985846e0df1424acdd633 "Cameron will join the likes of [PLAYERCARD]Zach Tuohy[/PLAYERCARD] at Geelong. Picture: Phil Hillyard")
Cameron will join the likes of Zach Tuohy at Geelong. Picture: Phil Hillyard
Cameron is widely considered one of the most damaging forwards in the game after taking out last year’s Coleman Medal with an average three goals a game.
But the mobile goal kicker endured a tough form slump this year kicking only 24 majors for the year from an average 10 possessions per game.
It was on that basis that the Giants made a strong stance in contract talks with Cameron and did not want to overpay, after handing out blockbuster long-term deals for superstar midfielders Stephen Coniglio, Lachie Whitfield and Josh Kelly in recent years.
Collingwood was circling Cameron but is expected to miss out on his signature after Cameron nominated Geelong as his preferred new home.
The Magpies are sweating on Jordan De Goey’s signature on a new deal as contract talks drag out.
Gold Coast let Jack Martin go for nothing in the draft and GWS Giants may be forced to go down the same path over Jeremy Cameron to put an end to the exodus. Jay Clark outlines how it may play out.
Jay Clark, News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
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Greater Western Sydney could risk losing Jeremy Cameron for nothing in the draft if the Giants stand on their heels in demanding a suitable trade with Geelong.
The Giants want to strike a deal for Cameron in a trade with Geelong and will either demand a quality young senior player or multiple early draft picks.
But the Cats have no plans to trade for Cameron and instead believe pick No. 10 as free agency compensation is adequate under the AFL’s rules.
It means Cameron, 27, faces a nervous wait over the next fortnight as the two clubs prepare for talks over the deal.
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If the two clubs can’t agree on the free agency transfer or a trade deal, Cameron would be forced to enter the pre-season draft to find his way to Geelong in a move which could raise the ire of the AFL Players’ Association.
It would be a strong stance from GWS to let Cameron go for nothing in the draft but Gold Coast did similar last year over Jack Martin (Carlton) to make a strong stance on a string of player departures.
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The Giants have lost Cameron and Zac Williams (Carlton), Jackson Hately (Adelaide) and are still trying to re-sign Jye Caldwell and Xavier O’Halloran in the face of interest from St Kilda and Essendon.
Cameron has given excellent service to the Giants over nine years and has been widely considered one of the top few key forwards in the game over the duration of his 171-game career despite falling out of form this season.
But it remains unlikely at this stage that the Giants will do Cameron any favours and grant an easy passage for him to the Cats for a single free agency compensation pick after his decision to walk out on the club for family and lifestyle reasons.
The Giants will bank on the Cats’ excellent record of completing player trades, which included sending premiership champion Steve Johnson to the Giants for a fifth-round pick the Cats were never going to use in 2016.
Geelong previously struck a trade deal to land free agent Patrick Dangerfield in 2015 and GWS is adamant it is intent on going down the same trade path with Cameron.
But the difference in the Dangerfield scenario was Geelong had an earlier pick (No. 9) than the direct compensation pick (No. 13) would have been for Adelaide.
In the Cameron situation Geelong’s three first-round picks (No. 11, No. 15 and No. 17 or 18) all come after the compensation pick (No. 10).
It means GWS will want the Cats to package up some of their late first-round selections for an earlier choice inside the top-10 if the Cats can’t also produce a senior player in a trade deal.
Gold Coast has shown a willingness to part with pick No. 5 which the Giants would likely accept for Cameron.
Under that scenario, the Suns could ask the Cats for two of their later choices in the first round and then use one of them to try and again tempt Adam Treloar out of Collingwood.
WHAT HAPPENS IF GIANTS MATCH CATS’ CAMERON BID?
Geelong has won the race to sign GWS Giants’ superstar Jeremy Cameron in a massive boost to the club’s premiership hopes for next season.
Cameron, 27, told Giants’ coach Leon Cameron late Monday he wanted to continue his career at the Cats in 2021, where he will partner gun spearhead Tom Hawkins in attack.
But GWS has already indicated it is prepared to match the Cats’ free agency bid in an attempt to secure two first-round picks from Geelong in a trade for Cameron.
If the Giants don’t match they have to accept pick No. 10 as free agency compensation, which is widely seen as an underwhelming return for one of the best key forwards in the game.
Giants’ chief executive Dave Matthews said the club wanted a decent return for Cameron’s departure.
“The ball is in Geelong’s court to see whether they can satisfy us with a trade,” Matthews said last night.
“(Adam) Treloar and (Dylan) Shiel were worth two first-round draft picks, and they are both very good players.
“Key forwards are hard to find.”
Cameron’s manager Alex McDonald said the Cats were the perfect fit for Cameron at this point in his life.
“He loves the Giants and he’s been wrestling with this for some time, but it’s a family-based decision,” McDonald said on SEN.
“With his partner Indie, he’s been thinking about it for a while, to be honest. They’ve been thinking about what the future looks like for them as a couple, but the short-term focus for Jeremy was more around his own family.
“He went up there (Sydney) as a 17-year-old, he’s been up there for 10 years and the opportunity for him to come back and be back closer to family and friends in Victoria — you don’t know whether that chance will present itself again any time soon.
“He was humbled. He obviously had plenty of interest and I won’t go into the other parties out of respect for them. There’s a lot of great football clubs out there, but this one lined up beautifully with the family and the off-field lifestyle and he’s very much an outdoors person.
“All of those things combined, along with the fact the Cats are a very consistent and stable footy club, meant it lined up. It was the right time for him in the end.
“He understands there’s still a process and still lots to work through, but he’s nominated the Cats.”
It is a huge coup for Geelong and another massive endorsement of the club’s culture and list management strategy as the Cats attempt to pull off their fourth premiership in 14 years against Richmond in Saturday’s Grand Final.
But the recruiting raid is not yet complete as the Cats are expected to land North Melbourne star midfield-forward Shaun Higgins and are also circling Adelaide onballer Brad Crouch.
The arrival of Cameron and Higgins would ensure the Cats had one of the most formidable and potent attacking setups in the league next season.
Geelong has been chasing Cameron, who is from Dartmoor in Victoria’ far west, for the past two seasons as Hawkins’ long-term successor.
While Cameron has made clear he has enjoyed his nine years and 171 games in Sydney, the laid-back lifestyle in Geelong and proximity to his and his partner’s family was known to be big factors in his decision.
GWS Giants list manager Jason McCartney said the club would work to get the best outcome for the club in exchange for its nine-time leading goal kicker.
“We are disappointed to hear the news that Jeremy Cameron wants to continue his career his career at the Cats,” McCartney told the Herald Sun.
“But he is a restricted free agent and the club will consider all options available to it.”
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The Giants tried hard to keep Cameron, saying the club offered him a “suitable deal” believed to be worth about $750,000 a season over five years.
The Giants will now consider whether to accept pick No. 10 as free agency compensation or force Geelong to give up more in a trade for the two-time All-Australian and best-and-fairest winner.
The Cats have three first-round draft picks and could also nab pick No. 7 from Fremantle for the potential loss of gun young defender Jordan Clark.
Geelong is able to fit Cameron into its salary cap largely because of the loss of star midfielder Tim Kelly to West Coast last year.
Geelong budgeted to pay Kelly about $800,000 a year and will now hand that money to Cameron, although salary was not seen as the main factor in his decision.
Spearhead Hawkins is also set to receive a reduced deal for next year, while veteran Harry Taylor is weighing up retirement and Gary Ablett will play his last game in Saturday’s premiership decider, creating more space for the Cats.
Cameron is widely considered one of the most damaging forwards in the game after taking out last year’s Coleman Medal with an average three goals a game.
But the mobile goal kicker endured a tough form slump this year kicking only 24 majors for the year from an average 10 possessions per game.
It was on that basis that the Giants made a strong stance in contract talks with Cameron and did not want to overpay, after handing out blockbuster long-term deals for superstar midfielders Stephen Coniglio, Lachie Whitfield and Josh Kelly in recent years.
Collingwood was circling Cameron but is expected to miss out on his signature after Cameron nominated Geelong as his preferred new home.
The Magpies are sweating on Jordan De Goey’s signature on a new deal as contract talks drag out.
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End of the day it's just a high profile trade. i think people are getting hung up on the unfairness of free agency and getting too far into the weeds on the rules.
What gws is doing is the same as what every club does losing a player they want.
Suns asked for Duncan in the Ablett trade. They got picks. Crows asked for 2 firsts and a "player of quality" for Danger, they got a first, a second, and Dean Gore despite us having 2 firsts to trade and plenty of quality players.
The only time it worked was Richmond asking for Caddy as far as I can see and that netted us Parfitt. It hurt us for a couple of years but at this point no one is taking caddy over Parfitt.
Part of it too is for the fans gws to see. It's a demonstration of "here's how much you're stabbing us in the back" and "we rate him in value to be equivalent to all these players put together". It allows them to publicly be the good guy when they accept less and makes.
I don't think any players are moving to gws over this. They may on trade picks, such as using draft capital we give them on say 2MP as a ruck option, but it would be doubtful they shake anything loose.
Not Wells first rodeo. He'll quietly put the picks on the table he willing to trade, publicly talk about how negotiations are going well and about how hard it is to trade for such a player in a complex situation, then on the last day they'll agree to something in the middle.
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One thing with our club .
If players want out we work out a deal for them .
We don't hold on to players agaisted their will.
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Does Dave Mathews understand how FA works?Geelong has no plans to stump up multiple first round picks in a Jeremy Cameron trade, setting up nervous wait
Gold Coast let Jack Martin go for nothing in the draft and GWS Giants may be forced to go down the same path over Jeremy Cameron to put an end to the exodus. Jay Clark outlines how it may play out.
Jay Clark, News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
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Jeremy Cameron has made a call on his future. Picture: Getty Images
Greater Western Sydney could risk losing Jeremy Cameron for nothing in the draft if the Giants stand on their heels in demanding a suitable trade with Geelong.
The Giants want to strike a deal for Cameron in a trade with Geelong and will either demand a quality young senior player or multiple early draft picks.
But the Cats have no plans to trade for Cameron and instead believe pick No. 10 as free agency compensation is adequate under the AFL’s rules.
It means Cameron, 27, faces a nervous wait over the next fortnight as the two clubs prepare for talks over the deal.
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If the two clubs can’t agree on the free agency transfer or a trade deal, Cameron would be forced to enter the pre-season draft to find his way to Geelong in a move which could raise the ire of the AFL Players’ Association.
It would be a strong stance from GWS to let Cameron go for nothing in the draft but Gold Coast did similar last year over Jack Martin (Carlton) to make a strong stance on a string of player departures.
Jeremy Cameron has cited family and lifestyle reasons behind his decision to leave GWS.
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The Giants have lost Cameron and Zac Williams (Carlton), Jackson Hately (Adelaide) and are still trying to re-sign Jye Caldwell and Xavier O’Halloran in the face of interest from St Kilda and Essendon.
Cameron has given excellent service to the Giants over nine years and has been widely considered one of the top few key forwards in the game over the duration of his 171-game career despite falling out of form this season.
But it remains unlikely at this stage that the Giants will do Cameron any favours and grant an easy passage for him to the Cats for a single free agency compensation pick after his decision to walk out on the club for family and lifestyle reasons.
The Giants will bank on the Cats’ excellent record of completing player trades, which included sending premiership champion Steve Johnson to the Giants for a fifth-round pick the Cats were never going to use in 2016.
Geelong previously struck a trade deal to land free agent Patrick Dangerfield in 2015 and GWS is adamant it is intent on going down the same trade path with Cameron.
But the difference in the Dangerfield scenario was Geelong had an earlier pick (No. 9) than the direct compensation pick (No. 13) would have been for Adelaide.
Cameron has given excellent service to the Giants over nine years.
In the Cameron situation Geelong’s three first-round picks (No. 11, No. 15 and No. 17 or 18) all come after the compensation pick (No. 10).
It means GWS will want the Cats to package up some of their late first-round selections for an earlier choice inside the top-10 if the Cats can’t also produce a senior player in a trade deal.
Gold Coast has shown a willingness to part with pick No. 5 which the Giants would likely accept for Cameron.
Under that scenario, the Suns could ask the Cats for two of their later choices in the first round and then use one of them to try and again tempt Adam Treloar out of Collingwood.
WHAT HAPPENS IF GIANTS MATCH CATS’ CAMERON BID?
Geelong has won the race to sign GWS Giants’ superstar Jeremy Cameron in a massive boost to the club’s premiership hopes for next season.
Cameron, 27, told Giants’ coach Leon Cameron late Monday he wanted to continue his career at the Cats in 2021, where he will partner gun spearhead Tom Hawkins in attack.
But GWS has already indicated it is prepared to match the Cats’ free agency bid in an attempt to secure two first-round picks from Geelong in a trade for Cameron.
If the Giants don’t match they have to accept pick No. 10 as free agency compensation, which is widely seen as an underwhelming return for one of the best key forwards in the game.
Giants’ chief executive Dave Matthews said the club wanted a decent return for Cameron’s departure.
“The ball is in Geelong’s court to see whether they can satisfy us with a trade,” Matthews said last night.
“(Adam) Treloar and (Dylan) Shiel were worth two first-round draft picks, and they are both very good players.
“Key forwards are hard to find.”
Tom Hawkins goes into a Grand Final with the knowledge he will have a superstar running mate in 2021. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Cameron’s manager Alex McDonald said the Cats were the perfect fit for Cameron at this point in his life.
“He loves the Giants and he’s been wrestling with this for some time, but it’s a family-based decision,” McDonald said on SEN.
“With his partner Indie, he’s been thinking about it for a while, to be honest. They’ve been thinking about what the future looks like for them as a couple, but the short-term focus for Jeremy was more around his own family.
“He went up there (Sydney) as a 17-year-old, he’s been up there for 10 years and the opportunity for him to come back and be back closer to family and friends in Victoria — you don’t know whether that chance will present itself again any time soon.
“He was humbled. He obviously had plenty of interest and I won’t go into the other parties out of respect for them. There’s a lot of great football clubs out there, but this one lined up beautifully with the family and the off-field lifestyle and he’s very much an outdoors person.
“All of those things combined, along with the fact the Cats are a very consistent and stable footy club, meant it lined up. It was the right time for him in the end.
“He understands there’s still a process and still lots to work through, but he’s nominated the Cats.”
It is a huge coup for Geelong and another massive endorsement of the club’s culture and list management strategy as the Cats attempt to pull off their fourth premiership in 14 years against Richmond in Saturday’s Grand Final.
But the recruiting raid is not yet complete as the Cats are expected to land North Melbourne star midfield-forward Shaun Higgins and are also circling Adelaide onballer Brad Crouch.
The arrival of Cameron and Higgins would ensure the Cats had one of the most formidable and potent attacking setups in the league next season.
Geelong has been chasing Cameron, who is from Dartmoor in Victoria’ far west, for the past two seasons as Hawkins’ long-term successor.
While Cameron has made clear he has enjoyed his nine years and 171 games in Sydney, the laid-back lifestyle in Geelong and proximity to his and his partner’s family was known to be big factors in his decision.
GWS Giants list manager Jason McCartney said the club would work to get the best outcome for the club in exchange for its nine-time leading goal kicker.
“We are disappointed to hear the news that Jeremy Cameron wants to continue his career his career at the Cats,” McCartney told the Herald Sun.
“But he is a restricted free agent and the club will consider all options available to it.”
At his best, Cameron is one of the finest forwards in the game. Picture: Michael Klein
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The Giants tried hard to keep Cameron, saying the club offered him a “suitable deal” believed to be worth about $750,000 a season over five years.
The Giants will now consider whether to accept pick No. 10 as free agency compensation or force Geelong to give up more in a trade for the two-time All-Australian and best-and-fairest winner.
The Cats have three first-round draft picks and could also nab pick No. 7 from Fremantle for the potential loss of gun young defender Jordan Clark.
Geelong is able to fit Cameron into its salary cap largely because of the loss of star midfielder Tim Kelly to West Coast last year.
Geelong budgeted to pay Kelly about $800,000 a year and will now hand that money to Cameron, although salary was not seen as the main factor in his decision.
Spearhead Hawkins is also set to receive a reduced deal for next year, while veteran Harry Taylor is weighing up retirement and Gary Ablett will play his last game in Saturday’s premiership decider, creating more space for the Cats.
Cameron will join the likes of Zach Tuohy at Geelong. Picture: Phil Hillyard
Cameron is widely considered one of the most damaging forwards in the game after taking out last year’s Coleman Medal with an average three goals a game.
But the mobile goal kicker endured a tough form slump this year kicking only 24 majors for the year from an average 10 possessions per game.
It was on that basis that the Giants made a strong stance in contract talks with Cameron and did not want to overpay, after handing out blockbuster long-term deals for superstar midfielders Stephen Coniglio, Lachie Whitfield and Josh Kelly in recent years.
Collingwood was circling Cameron but is expected to miss out on his signature after Cameron nominated Geelong as his preferred new home.
The Magpies are sweating on Jordan De Goey’s signature on a new deal as contract talks drag out.
The ball isn’t in our court to facilitate a trade.
First we will put the offer in front of him, you will decide if that fits in your TPP and if it does we then have to work out a trade.
Not now, not tomorrow
After the contract is offered
Good old Jay Clark. Love him. Fighting the other side for the club.Geelong has no plans to stump up multiple first round picks in a Jeremy Cameron trade, setting up nervous wait
Gold Coast let Jack Martin go for nothing in the draft and GWS Giants may be forced to go down the same path over Jeremy Cameron to put an end to the exodus. Jay Clark outlines how it may play out.
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Jeremy Cameron has made a call on his future. Picture: Getty Images
Greater Western Sydney could risk losing Jeremy Cameron for nothing in the draft if the Giants stand on their heels in demanding a suitable trade with Geelong.
The Giants want to strike a deal for Cameron in a trade with Geelong and will either demand a quality young senior player or multiple early draft picks.
But the Cats have no plans to trade for Cameron and instead believe pick No. 10 as free agency compensation is adequate under the AFL’s rules.
It means Cameron, 27, faces a nervous wait over the next fortnight as the two clubs prepare for talks over the deal.
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If the two clubs can’t agree on the free agency transfer or a trade deal, Cameron would be forced to enter the pre-season draft to find his way to Geelong in a move which could raise the ire of the AFL Players’ Association.
It would be a strong stance from GWS to let Cameron go for nothing in the draft but Gold Coast did similar last year over Jack Martin (Carlton) to make a strong stance on a string of player departures.
Jeremy Cameron has cited family and lifestyle reasons behind his decision to leave GWS.
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The Giants have lost Cameron and Zac Williams (Carlton), Jackson Hately (Adelaide) and are still trying to re-sign Jye Caldwell and Xavier O’Halloran in the face of interest from St Kilda and Essendon.
Cameron has given excellent service to the Giants over nine years and has been widely considered one of the top few key forwards in the game over the duration of his 171-game career despite falling out of form this season.
But it remains unlikely at this stage that the Giants will do Cameron any favours and grant an easy passage for him to the Cats for a single free agency compensation pick after his decision to walk out on the club for family and lifestyle reasons.
The Giants will bank on the Cats’ excellent record of completing player trades, which included sending premiership champion Steve Johnson to the Giants for a fifth-round pick the Cats were never going to use in 2016.
Geelong previously struck a trade deal to land free agent Patrick Dangerfield in 2015 and GWS is adamant it is intent on going down the same trade path with Cameron.
But the difference in the Dangerfield scenario was Geelong had an earlier pick (No. 9) than the direct compensation pick (No. 13) would have been for Adelaide.
Cameron has given excellent service to the Giants over nine years.
In the Cameron situation Geelong’s three first-round picks (No. 11, No. 15 and No. 17 or 18) all come after the compensation pick (No. 10).
It means GWS will want the Cats to package up some of their late first-round selections for an earlier choice inside the top-10 if the Cats can’t also produce a senior player in a trade deal.
Gold Coast has shown a willingness to part with pick No. 5 which the Giants would likely accept for Cameron.
Under that scenario, the Suns could ask the Cats for two of their later choices in the first round and then use one of them to try and again tempt Adam Treloar out of Collingwood.
WHAT HAPPENS IF GIANTS MATCH CATS’ CAMERON BID?
Geelong has won the race to sign GWS Giants’ superstar Jeremy Cameron in a massive boost to the club’s premiership hopes for next season.
Cameron, 27, told Giants’ coach Leon Cameron late Monday he wanted to continue his career at the Cats in 2021, where he will partner gun spearhead Tom Hawkins in attack.
But GWS has already indicated it is prepared to match the Cats’ free agency bid in an attempt to secure two first-round picks from Geelong in a trade for Cameron.
If the Giants don’t match they have to accept pick No. 10 as free agency compensation, which is widely seen as an underwhelming return for one of the best key forwards in the game.
Giants’ chief executive Dave Matthews said the club wanted a decent return for Cameron’s departure.
“The ball is in Geelong’s court to see whether they can satisfy us with a trade,” Matthews said last night.
“(Adam) Treloar and (Dylan) Shiel were worth two first-round draft picks, and they are both very good players.
“Key forwards are hard to find.”
Tom Hawkins goes into a Grand Final with the knowledge he will have a superstar running mate in 2021. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Cameron’s manager Alex McDonald said the Cats were the perfect fit for Cameron at this point in his life.
“He loves the Giants and he’s been wrestling with this for some time, but it’s a family-based decision,” McDonald said on SEN.
“With his partner Indie, he’s been thinking about it for a while, to be honest. They’ve been thinking about what the future looks like for them as a couple, but the short-term focus for Jeremy was more around his own family.
“He went up there (Sydney) as a 17-year-old, he’s been up there for 10 years and the opportunity for him to come back and be back closer to family and friends in Victoria — you don’t know whether that chance will present itself again any time soon.
“He was humbled. He obviously had plenty of interest and I won’t go into the other parties out of respect for them. There’s a lot of great football clubs out there, but this one lined up beautifully with the family and the off-field lifestyle and he’s very much an outdoors person.
“All of those things combined, along with the fact the Cats are a very consistent and stable footy club, meant it lined up. It was the right time for him in the end.
“He understands there’s still a process and still lots to work through, but he’s nominated the Cats.”
It is a huge coup for Geelong and another massive endorsement of the club’s culture and list management strategy as the Cats attempt to pull off their fourth premiership in 14 years against Richmond in Saturday’s Grand Final.
But the recruiting raid is not yet complete as the Cats are expected to land North Melbourne star midfield-forward Shaun Higgins and are also circling Adelaide onballer Brad Crouch.
The arrival of Cameron and Higgins would ensure the Cats had one of the most formidable and potent attacking setups in the league next season.
Geelong has been chasing Cameron, who is from Dartmoor in Victoria’ far west, for the past two seasons as Hawkins’ long-term successor.
While Cameron has made clear he has enjoyed his nine years and 171 games in Sydney, the laid-back lifestyle in Geelong and proximity to his and his partner’s family was known to be big factors in his decision.
GWS Giants list manager Jason McCartney said the club would work to get the best outcome for the club in exchange for its nine-time leading goal kicker.
“We are disappointed to hear the news that Jeremy Cameron wants to continue his career his career at the Cats,” McCartney told the Herald Sun.
“But he is a restricted free agent and the club will consider all options available to it.”
At his best, Cameron is one of the finest forwards in the game. Picture: Michael Klein
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The Giants tried hard to keep Cameron, saying the club offered him a “suitable deal” believed to be worth about $750,000 a season over five years.
The Giants will now consider whether to accept pick No. 10 as free agency compensation or force Geelong to give up more in a trade for the two-time All-Australian and best-and-fairest winner.
The Cats have three first-round draft picks and could also nab pick No. 7 from Fremantle for the potential loss of gun young defender Jordan Clark.
Geelong is able to fit Cameron into its salary cap largely because of the loss of star midfielder Tim Kelly to West Coast last year.
Geelong budgeted to pay Kelly about $800,000 a year and will now hand that money to Cameron, although salary was not seen as the main factor in his decision.
Spearhead Hawkins is also set to receive a reduced deal for next year, while veteran Harry Taylor is weighing up retirement and Gary Ablett will play his last game in Saturday’s premiership decider, creating more space for the Cats.
Cameron will join the likes of Zach Tuohy at Geelong. Picture: Phil Hillyard
Cameron is widely considered one of the most damaging forwards in the game after taking out last year’s Coleman Medal with an average three goals a game.
But the mobile goal kicker endured a tough form slump this year kicking only 24 majors for the year from an average 10 possessions per game.
It was on that basis that the Giants made a strong stance in contract talks with Cameron and did not want to overpay, after handing out blockbuster long-term deals for superstar midfielders Stephen Coniglio, Lachie Whitfield and Josh Kelly in recent years.
Collingwood was circling Cameron but is expected to miss out on his signature after Cameron nominated Geelong as his preferred new home.
The Magpies are sweating on Jordan De Goey’s signature on a new deal as contract talks drag out.
Mitch Cleary with the next one.
Send these Giants a message. If we are forced to trade then well blow that currency getting a low pick and threaten to cut the giants out completely.
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.........Tim Kelly
Its seem mainly a rework of an article the other day with the Geelong POV loaded into it..emphasising 9 years of service and maybe losing him for zero etc
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You wouldn't want to do it until after the Cameron business is done because anything we got GWS would ask for.....
It absolutely smacks of the way the media works these days. We (Geel) give you first rights to info but when we need you to spin something you dust off the whites, loosen the wrist and rip it Shane.
Geelong has no plans to stump up multiple first round picks in a Jeremy Cameron trade, setting up nervous wait
Gold Coast let Jack Martin go for nothing in the draft and GWS Giants may be forced to go down the same path over Jeremy Cameron to put an end to the exodus. Jay Clark outlines how it may play out.
Jay Clark, News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
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October 21, 2020 7:08pm
Jeremy Cameron has made a call on his future. Picture: Getty Images
Greater Western Sydney could risk losing Jeremy Cameron for nothing in the draft if the Giants stand on their heels in demanding a suitable trade with Geelong.
The Giants want to strike a deal for Cameron in a trade with Geelong and will either demand a quality young senior player or multiple early draft picks.
But the Cats have no plans to trade for Cameron and instead believe pick No. 10 as free agency compensation is adequate under the AFL’s rules.
It means Cameron, 27, faces a nervous wait over the next fortnight as the two clubs prepare for talks over the deal.
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If the two clubs can’t agree on the free agency transfer or a trade deal, Cameron would be forced to enter the pre-season draft to find his way to Geelong in a move which could raise the ire of the AFL Players’ Association.
It would be a strong stance from GWS to let Cameron go for nothing in the draft but Gold Coast did similar last year over Jack Martin (Carlton) to make a strong stance on a string of player departures.
Jeremy Cameron has cited family and lifestyle reasons behind his decision to leave GWS.
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The Giants have lost Cameron and Zac Williams (Carlton), Jackson Hately (Adelaide) and are still trying to re-sign Jye Caldwell and Xavier O’Halloran in the face of interest from St Kilda and Essendon.
Cameron has given excellent service to the Giants over nine years and has been widely considered one of the top few key forwards in the game over the duration of his 171-game career despite falling out of form this season.
But it remains unlikely at this stage that the Giants will do Cameron any favours and grant an easy passage for him to the Cats for a single free agency compensation pick after his decision to walk out on the club for family and lifestyle reasons.
The Giants will bank on the Cats’ excellent record of completing player trades, which included sending premiership champion Steve Johnson to the Giants for a fifth-round pick the Cats were never going to use in 2016.
Geelong previously struck a trade deal to land free agent Patrick Dangerfield in 2015 and GWS is adamant it is intent on going down the same trade path with Cameron.
But the difference in the Dangerfield scenario was Geelong had an earlier pick (No. 9) than the direct compensation pick (No. 13) would have been for Adelaide.
Cameron has given excellent service to the Giants over nine years.
In the Cameron situation Geelong’s three first-round picks (No. 11, No. 15 and No. 17 or 18) all come after the compensation pick (No. 10).
It means GWS will want the Cats to package up some of their late first-round selections for an earlier choice inside the top-10 if the Cats can’t also produce a senior player in a trade deal.
Gold Coast has shown a willingness to part with pick No. 5 which the Giants would likely accept for Cameron.
Under that scenario, the Suns could ask the Cats for two of their later choices in the first round and then use one of them to try and again tempt Adam Treloar out of Collingwood.
WHAT HAPPENS IF GIANTS MATCH CATS’ CAMERON BID?
Geelong has won the race to sign GWS Giants’ superstar Jeremy Cameron in a massive boost to the club’s premiership hopes for next season.
Cameron, 27, told Giants’ coach Leon Cameron late Monday he wanted to continue his career at the Cats in 2021, where he will partner gun spearhead Tom Hawkins in attack.
But GWS has already indicated it is prepared to match the Cats’ free agency bid in an attempt to secure two first-round picks from Geelong in a trade for Cameron.
If the Giants don’t match they have to accept pick No. 10 as free agency compensation, which is widely seen as an underwhelming return for one of the best key forwards in the game.
Giants’ chief executive Dave Matthews said the club wanted a decent return for Cameron’s departure.
“The ball is in Geelong’s court to see whether they can satisfy us with a trade,” Matthews said last night.
“(Adam) Treloar and (Dylan) Shiel were worth two first-round draft picks, and they are both very good players.
“Key forwards are hard to find.”
Tom Hawkins goes into a Grand Final with the knowledge he will have a superstar running mate in 2021. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Cameron’s manager Alex McDonald said the Cats were the perfect fit for Cameron at this point in his life.
“He loves the Giants and he’s been wrestling with this for some time, but it’s a family-based decision,” McDonald said on SEN.
“With his partner Indie, he’s been thinking about it for a while, to be honest. They’ve been thinking about what the future looks like for them as a couple, but the short-term focus for Jeremy was more around his own family.
“He went up there (Sydney) as a 17-year-old, he’s been up there for 10 years and the opportunity for him to come back and be back closer to family and friends in Victoria — you don’t know whether that chance will present itself again any time soon.
“He was humbled. He obviously had plenty of interest and I won’t go into the other parties out of respect for them. There’s a lot of great football clubs out there, but this one lined up beautifully with the family and the off-field lifestyle and he’s very much an outdoors person.
“All of those things combined, along with the fact the Cats are a very consistent and stable footy club, meant it lined up. It was the right time for him in the end.
“He understands there’s still a process and still lots to work through, but he’s nominated the Cats.”
It is a huge coup for Geelong and another massive endorsement of the club’s culture and list management strategy as the Cats attempt to pull off their fourth premiership in 14 years against Richmond in Saturday’s Grand Final.
But the recruiting raid is not yet complete as the Cats are expected to land North Melbourne star midfield-forward Shaun Higgins and are also circling Adelaide onballer Brad Crouch.
The arrival of Cameron and Higgins would ensure the Cats had one of the most formidable and potent attacking setups in the league next season.
Geelong has been chasing Cameron, who is from Dartmoor in Victoria’ far west, for the past two seasons as Hawkins’ long-term successor.
While Cameron has made clear he has enjoyed his nine years and 171 games in Sydney, the laid-back lifestyle in Geelong and proximity to his and his partner’s family was known to be big factors in his decision.
GWS Giants list manager Jason McCartney said the club would work to get the best outcome for the club in exchange for its nine-time leading goal kicker.
“We are disappointed to hear the news that Jeremy Cameron wants to continue his career his career at the Cats,” McCartney told the Herald Sun.
“But he is a restricted free agent and the club will consider all options available to it.”
At his best, Cameron is one of the finest forwards in the game. Picture: Michael Klein
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2020 premiership the toughest ever: Hodge
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The Giants tried hard to keep Cameron, saying the club offered him a “suitable deal” believed to be worth about $750,000 a season over five years.
The Giants will now consider whether to accept pick No. 10 as free agency compensation or force Geelong to give up more in a trade for the two-time All-Australian and best-and-fairest winner.
The Cats have three first-round draft picks and could also nab pick No. 7 from Fremantle for the potential loss of gun young defender Jordan Clark.
Geelong is able to fit Cameron into its salary cap largely because of the loss of star midfielder Tim Kelly to West Coast last year.
Geelong budgeted to pay Kelly about $800,000 a year and will now hand that money to Cameron, although salary was not seen as the main factor in his decision.
Spearhead Hawkins is also set to receive a reduced deal for next year, while veteran Harry Taylor is weighing up retirement and Gary Ablett will play his last game in Saturday’s premiership decider, creating more space for the Cats.
Cameron will join the likes of Zach Tuohy at Geelong. Picture: Phil Hillyard
Cameron is widely considered one of the most damaging forwards in the game after taking out last year’s Coleman Medal with an average three goals a game.
But the mobile goal kicker endured a tough form slump this year kicking only 24 majors for the year from an average 10 possessions per game.
It was on that basis that the Giants made a strong stance in contract talks with Cameron and did not want to overpay, after handing out blockbuster long-term deals for superstar midfielders Stephen Coniglio, Lachie Whitfield and Josh Kelly in recent years.
Collingwood was circling Cameron but is expected to miss out on his signature after Cameron nominated Geelong as his preferred new home.
The Magpies are sweating on Jordan De Goey’s signature on a new deal as contract talks drag out.
..its really not too much in this but this is interesting ...
Gold Coast has shown a willingness to part with pick No. 5 which the Giants would likely accept for Cameron.
Under that scenario, the Suns could ask the Cats for two of their later choices in the first round and then use one of them to try and again tempt Adam Treloar out of Collingwood.
Same principle... I think id do the trade for ourselves not to give to them...P5 yep we could do with a P5 player
No one thought he struggled last year. Plus he is a long term winger. Not defender.
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We were willing to trade kelly but west coast massively low balled the offer and kelly rejected freemantle.
Offer Cameron a massive 2 yr deal that won’t be matched. Add 3 yrs later to even it out.
Like what I’ve seen of the next crop coming through. I’d roll thru the next 1-3 years with Steven, Higgins, Atkins and gut the likes of Narkle, Cockatoo, Parsons, Constable, Fogarty and even Clark if he really does want to go home.
Clever trading by Wells could then see us hit this draft with a half dozen picks in the top 20 to come through with Jarvis, Close, SDK, Stephens and Co.
Like what I’ve seen of the next crop coming through. I’d roll thru the next 1-3 years with Steven, Higgins, Atkins and gut the likes of Narkle, Cockatoo, Parsons, Constable, Fogarty and even Clark if he really does want to go home.
Clever trading by Wells could then see us hit this draft with a half dozen picks in the top 20 to come through with Jarvis, Close, SDK, Stephens and Co.
I'd leave it to wells to pick but he would be one in the discussion. P5 would be super early compared to what we have had access to
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