Anyone who has met and spoken with him will know this just could not be further from the truth. He is one of the most humble and driven people you will ever meet. I have never met anyone who is less likely to get ahead of themselves or let arrogance about their own quality get in their way.
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Anyone who has met and spoken with him will know this just could not be further from the truth. He is one of the most humble and driven people you will ever meet. I have never met anyone who is less likely to get ahead of themselves or let arrogance about their own quality get in their way.
No wonder we did not win a flag from 2011 to 2018 we had Murdoch in our side lol
Not sure he has much natural talent. I think in his draft year he only averaged 15 disposals in the NAB League.
Not sure Troy Selwood feels the same.
Anyone able to share the heraldsuns top 40 draft prospects?
What is your point slash basis for this as I have had a bit to do with Troy a well to be fair.
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The big picture is that Wells has done very well indeed over the years, particularly early on. Think of Josh Hunt, pick 48 was it?
However I do think he has fluffed several of his first picks in recent years. The Menzel story is tragic of course; and let us not forget Vardy who Scarlett rated our best pick in that year, but he too was felled by injury.
In any event, his decisions over the next month will profoundly shape our destiny; let us hope that he repeats earlier glory and picks 4 A-graders through the 20s and 30s.
However I do think he has fluffed several of his first picks in recent years. The Menzel story is tragic of course; and let us not forget Vardy who Scarlett rated our best pick in that year, but he too was felled by injury.
In any event, his decisions over the next month will profoundly shape our destiny; let us hope that he repeats earlier glory and picks 4 A-graders through the 20s and 30s.
You guy’s are interested in our pick 23
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CONSENSUS TOP 40 RANKINGS
2021 AFL Draft - Consensus Rankings
Consensus Player Jordan Pinto Dan Batten
1 Jason Horne-Francis 1 1
2 Nick Daicos 2 2
3 Finn Callaghan 3 4
4 Sam Darcy 4 3
5 Josh Gibcus 5 6
6 Ben Hobbs 8 5
7 Josh Ward 7 8
8 Josh Rachele 11 7
9 Mac Andrew 9 9
10 Josh Sinn 6 12
11 Jye Amiss 13 10
12 Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 12 14
13 Neil Erasmus 15 11
14 Josh Goater 10 17
15 Matthew Johnson 17 13
16 Tyler Sonsie 16 15
17 Jacob van Rooyen 18 16
18 Matthew Roberts 14 19
19 Arlo Draper 20 18
20 Campbell Chesser 19 21
21 Zac Taylor 21 24
22 Mitch Knevitt 25 20
23 Jesse Motlop 24 22
24 Sam Butler 22 23
25 Tom Brown 23 25
26 Darcy Wilmot 26 23
27 Jack Williams 28 27
28 Blake Howes 27 32
29 Josh Fahey 30 28
30 Leek Alleer 31 29
31 Judson Clarke 29 30
32 Angus Sheldrick 39 26
33 Mitch Owens 34 34
34 Rhett Bazzo 36 31
35 Toby Conway 35 33
36 Connor MacDonald 38 35
37 Marcus Windhager 32 39
38 Cooper Murley 33 -
39 Jase Burgoyne 40 40
40 Corey Warner - -
1. Jason Horne-Francis
South Adelaide/SA
Midfielder/forward, 184cm, 77kg
Jordan says: No change here. The South Adelaide gun is explosive at the contest and an aerial threat forward of centre but it’s the sheer competitiveness that sets Horne-Francis apart. Not only in this draft but from any prospect from South Australia in a long time – some say ever
Dan says: After having Nick Daicos at No. 1 for the majority of the year, Horne-Francis’s immense SANFL preliminary final was too good to ignore. The world is his oyster at North Melbourne after two full seasons against men.
2. Nick Daicos
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro/Collingwood father-son
Midfielder/forward, 183cm, 72kg
Jordan says: Sees the game better than anyone in the draft pool and has the sublime skills to match. Pies recruiting boss Derek Hine echoed the thought of many around the country recently, suggesting Daicos could’ve featured in Collingwood’s best 22 this year. He doesn’t just win the footy, he does so in dangerous spots.
Dan says: Streets ahead of the rest in every game he played with his prolific ball-winning, class, footy IQ and scoreboard impact. Can’t help but ponder what could have been in the No. 1 pick debate if Daicos was able to play a full season, or VFL footy for Collingwood.
3. Finn Callaghan
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Midfielder, 189cm, 82kg
Jordan says: Callaghan has all the traits of the perfect modern day midfielder. He’s tall, quick, brilliant in traffic, can win the ball on the inside and outside, and boasts a penetrating left-foot. Callaghan’s decision making in tight spaces is the highlight, though, often making the game seem like it’s slowing down around him. And that’s why I’ve got him just ahead of the best tall in the draft.
Dan says: An extremely dangerous offensive threat with his booming kick and unparalleled speed-agility mix as a midfielder, allowing him to weave through traffic with ease. Deserving of the second live pick as he can do what other midfielders in this draft class can’t.
4. Sam Darcy
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro/Western Bulldogs father-son
Key forward/defender, 204cm, 75kg
Jordan says: Darcy’s traits aren’t common, either, and very much sought after. He moves unbelievably well for a 204cm big man and can play on every line. He’s elite in the air, whether it be floating across in front of the leading forward in defence, or one out inside-50.
Dan says: The standout key forward by some margin with his vice-like hands and size, with his flexibility to be used down back giving him major upside. Narrowly ahead of Callaghan for me, but not by much.
5. Josh Gibcus
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Key defender, 196cm, 87kg
Jordan says: Opposition coaches are going to have to direct their ball movement away from Gibcus once he finds his feet in the AFL because, at 196cm, with an exceptional vertical leap and long arms, he’s not often beaten in the air. Gibcus is quick, reads the play well, and just knows when to leave his man.
Dan says: Gibcus attacks the ball in the air like his life depends on it. This along with his incredible vertical leap, speed off the mark and reading of the play sets him apart from other key defenders in the pool. Think Jake Lever.
6. Ben Hobbs
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Midfielder, 183cm, 80kg
Jordan says: The hard-running midfielder thrives at the contest and does a lot of things very well. Hobbs appears a safe pick in the top-10, especially given his leadership qualities and competitiveness, but he can be a touch stationary moving away from the contest. I think a few others offer a bit more.
Dan says: Hobbs is the man you want in the clinches with his ball-winning, tackling and leadership qualities. A future contested beast who looks a 200-gamer in the making, which is why I view him as a top-five talent.
7. Josh Ward
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
Midfielder, 181cm, 74kg
Jordan says: He’s one of those I think offers a little more. Ward, who looks to be another safe bet early in the draft, is a prolific ball-winner, who is clean and clever by hand at the contest and very effective by foot away from it. He’s a great runner – both ways – and makes things happen.
Dan says: Ward is as reliable as they come – possessing inside-outside ball-winning traits and incredible endurance – and even gave Daicos a run for his money in a head-to-head duel in the NAB League earlier in the year. Was at 10 in my rankings last month, but after another look at his Victorian Challenge match (29 disposals and a goal), I had to move him up.
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8. Josh Rachele
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Forward/midfielder, 180cm, 78kg
Jordan says: Brilliant as a midfielder at the under-16 national carnival, but, after dominating as a permanent forward in the NAB League this year, is he well-rounded enough to play in the midfield at the top level? His skills, clean hands – in the air and on the ground – evasiveness and footy smarts suggest so, but it’s still my one question. But Rachele can do things other prospects can’t, and that’s why a club could pounce earlier than this.
Dan says: A genuine matchwinner who kicks goals from all angles – underlined by his six goal haul in his final NAB League game – and his potential to be a pinch-hitting midfielder can’t be understated. There is a reluctance to take small forwards early, but Melbourne pocket rocket Kysaiah Pickett is case in point of how handsomely it can pay off.
9. Mac Andrew
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country/Melbourne Next Generation Academy
Ruckman, 201cm, 79kg
Jordan says: Andrew’s ceiling is as high as any player in this year’s draft. He moves so well for someone his size and has shown glimpses of his potential at either end of the ground. But it’s Andrew’s ability to take the ball cleanly and spring out of stoppages that has many excited. Long-term, think Nic Naitanui, but with better skills.
Dan says: Might not take as long as first thought to develop after putting on nine kilograms across the year. Has been compared to Luke Jackson for his leap and follow-up work as a ruckman, and his scope to be used at either end adds to his already significant upside.
10. Josh Sinn
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Running defender/midfielder, 186cm, 72kg
Jordan says: Sinn’s weapons behind the ball are obvious – and it’s where the teenager, who was once touted as No. 1 pick contender, did most of his best work as a junior. But I have him at No. 6 in my rankings, given his potential as a 186cm midfielder, with long and arms and clean hands, who can break the game open with speed and elite foot skills.
Dan says: One of the main points of contention in the consensus rankings. A potential top-five draftee entering the year, an uninterrupted season could have seen him maintain that, but injury and Covid got in the way. Other draftees may have jumped ahead of him, but he shapes as a bargain if he slides into the late first-round range with his game-breaking qualities and class.
11. Jye Amiss
East Perth/WA
Key forward, 195cm, 83kg
Jordan says: The second-best key-forward prospect available after rapid improvement led to a dominant WAFL Colts season. Amiss is brilliant on the lead and strong overhead but he also creates his own chances at ground level. And he’s a beautiful set shot for goal – an area of the game which lets so many talented talls down.
Dan says: A pinpoint 51.15 in 15 WAFL Colts matches is quite a feat in isolation. But when you consider his two-and-a-half hour commute from Busselton to East Perth for matches and training, it’s downright remarkable. The second best key forward behind Darcy.
12. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Glenelg/SA
Wingman, 188cm, 70kg
Jordan says: The draft’s best kick has admirers in the top-10, and rightly so. Wanganeen-Milera is incredibly balanced and delivers with precision on both feet. The concerns over the contested side of his game are slightly overstated, too. He showed at League and Reserves level in the SANFL that he can win his own footy, it’s just he’s so effective with the ball on the outside.
Dan says: The best kick in the draft? Probably. While his production is not as high as some in his range, his ability to hurt the opposition with his elite ball-use makes him a commodity.
13. Neil Erasmus
Subiaco/WA
Midfielder, 192cm, 80kg
Jordan says: As a forward Erasmus had some elite traits heading into 2021 – vertical leap, overhead marking, goal sense and work ethic stood out. Now, on top of those, after a year of rapid improvement, he’s a genuine ball-winner in the midfield. But I’m still slightly concerned about his field kicking, and the fact he’s a little rushed with the ball in hand.
Dan says: See shades of Jack Steele in Erasmus as a big-bodied midfielder, and he is only a year into the craft after playing as a forward as a bottom-ager, where he kicked four goals in an eye-catching WAFL Colts grand final display. Just outside the 10 in my rankings, but could have pushed in if he wasn’t sidelined with a corkie during the national carnival.
14. Josh Goater
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Inside midfielder/defender, 190cm, 79kg
Jordan says: The other big point of conjecture in our top 20. But if he can deliver on his potential as an athletic 190cm midfielder, who’s brilliant in traffic and can explode out the other side, then Goater is worthy of a top-10 selection. He starred across halfback for Calder late in the NAB League season and he would need to improve his endurance, but the pieces are there.
Dan says: Goater showed he can be an excitement machine through the middle and across halfback, possessing terrific agility, leap and overhead marking. One I considered putting higher on my list, especially after averaging 30 disposals and seven intercepts as a rebounding defender in the last three games of the NAB League.
15. Matthew Johnson
Subiaco/WA
Midfielder, 192cm, 82kg
Jordan says: While some clubs have some concerns over the consistency of the tall midfielder’s intensity, Johnson’s strengths are obvious. He’s tall, classy, clean, agile and makes great decisions with the ball in hand. Really caught my eye on the inside in last year’s WAFL Colts grand final as a bottom-ager but did his best work in space in 2021.
Dan says: His finish of the year was arguably the best of any prospect across the country, dominating in the national championships and excelling at WAFL Reserves level as a tall and creative inside midfielder. Johnson then highlighted his elite all-round athletic traits at the draft combine with three top-seven finishes. The main top-20 mover in my rankings, up from 17 last month.
16. Tyler Sonsie
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Midfielder, 181cm, 77kg
Jordan says: One of the Victorian prospects looming as a bit of a draft night steal after an interrupted year. But what Sonsie, a goalkicking midfielder with elite skills and plenty of class, has done at multiple levels over the past three seasons has been very good. He keeps his feet, and is rarely rushed.
Dan says: Difficult to place, given he has lacked exposure after suffering an knee injury midway through the season. But his 24 disposal, two goal display on VFL debut for Box Hill underlined his talent, with his great skills, clean hands and vision.
17. Jacob van Rooyen
Claremont/WA
Key forward/defender, 193cm, 87kg
Jordan says: Entered the year as WA’s most highly-touted prospect and, in a draft short on top-end talls, should definitely be in the top-20 mix. A bout of glandular fever set him back earlier this year but, either side of the interruption, he’s dominated at both ends of the ground. Van Rooyen is as strong as any prospect in the air and is ready to go.
Dan says: Another WA riser, van Rooyen has risen up draft boards after transforming into a swingman following a successful trial at the national championships. Up forward, he bagged four goals – three of those in the first quarter – of the WAFL Colts grand final. He looms as a valuable asset for clubs looking for key position players.
18. Matt Roberts
South Adelaide/SA
Inside midfielder, 183cm, 81kg
Jordan says: Keep hearing concerns over his athleticism and how it translates to the AFL. But Roberts has simply got the job done at every level over the past two years and is as smart as footballers come. He’s tough, clean and competitive, and when you see the game quicker than others, does it matter if your running isn’t as good? It hasn’t so far, and he might prove a few wrong.
Dan says: There may be some question marks over his speed and skills, but Roberts is fierce competitor as an inside midfielder. Plus, he proved he can impact forward against senior bodies, kicking six goals in seven matches in the SANFL – including two in the preliminary final.
19. Arlo Draper
South Adelaide/SA
Forward/midfielder, 186cm, 71kg
Jordan says: Draper has shown his class as a ball-winning midfielder, who has plenty of time with ball in hand and can weave his way out of congestion. He’s also proven his effectiveness as a marking option inside-50. Put that all together and he could become one of the most dynamic midfielders of this year’s draft. But, given he’s also been deployed across halfback, where is his best position at the top level?
Dan says: His X-Factor and versatility for a player his size is undeniable, but what role does he play best? He looked promising across halfback for South Australia until he succumbed to an AC joint injury in the grand final curtain-raiser. Did some nice things at SANFL and Reserves level across the year, which is a big tick.
20. Campbell Chesser
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country
Defender/midfielder 186cm, 83kg
Jordan says: The explosive Chesser bounces around and makes things happen when he’s got the ball. He’s a damaging playmaker on the outside and a few clubs may have seen enough to take him higher than this – especially given the teenager has publicly declared he’s happy to move interstate.
Dan says: Another who has been cruelled by injury this year. His top- end speed and raking kick as a defender-midfielder is matched by his exceptional leadership qualities, with the Lavington local boarding at Melbourne Grammar for the past three years.
21. Zac Taylor
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Balanced midfielder, 180cm, 74kg
Jordan says: Clubs love the ‘money kick’ – the kick inside-50 that finds a teammate. And Taylor is one of the best in this year’s draft. The 180cm midfielder rarely wastes the ball by foot and it’s what sets him apart from others in the first-round mix.
Dan says: Few midfielders in the pool have the elite footskills and decision making of Taylor. His finish to the NAB League season was outstanding, and his form for Vic Metro stacked up against other top-end midfielders. May have boosted his stocks even further if the season wasn’t cut short.
22. Mitch Knevitt
Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
Inside midfielder, 193cm, 81kg
Jordan says: At 193cm, Knevitt is hard to stop in the midfield – at the contest, battling for first possession, and in marking contests around the ground. Could land a bit higher than this in the draft, given his scope for improvement and impressive combine testing.
Dan says: One of my favourites in the draft class. At 193cm, Knevitt combines inside ball-winning with contested marking and an elite speed-endurance mix. He recorded the third fastest time 2km time trial time (6:18) and a top 10 finish in the 20m sprint at the national combine. Oh, and he averaged a lazy 30.3 disposals, 14.7 contested possessions, 6.6 tackles, 6.3 marks and 150 Champion Data ranking points in his last three NAB League games.
23. Jesse Motlop
South Fremantle/WA,
Small forward, 176cm, 74kg
Jordan says: As far as pure small-forwards go, Motlop is the man. He’s quick, skilful and weaves in and out of traffic with ease. He hits the scoreboard and brings teammates into the game further up the field. Suits the needs of a number of clubs around this point.
Dan says: Young small forwards often struggle against senior bodies, and the fact Motlop booted a goal in all-but one of his eight WAFL senior matches says plenty. His goal sense and crumbing makes him an exciting addition to any forward line.
24. Sam Butler
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Forward/midfielder, 184cm, 76kg
Jordan says: What stands out about Butler is how clean he is at the contest. And, with a terrific athletic profile, he’s able to explode away from it, too. As a forward, he’s just as good defensively as he is around goal, but a future in the midfield beckons.
Dan says: After missing Vic Metro representation with a cracked sternum, Butler gave recruiters a stern reminder of his standout athleticism with top-ten finishes in both vertical jump tests, 2km time trial and 20m sprint. The brother of St Kilda goalsneak, Dan, shares his pressure but also has the capacity to be used as a midfielder, where his contested ball winning and creativity by hand is an asset.
25. Tom Brown
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Defender, 186cm, 74kg
Jordan says: If he’s not drifting across to win the footy back off the opposition in the air, Brown is swooping on a loose ball at ground level. Then he’s setting up play with precise foot skills and plenty of dash. The athletic playmaker has a number of suitors
Dan says: Brown intercepts, uses the ball well and breaks away with speed. And he made up for lost time at the draft combine – missing an extended period during the season with a syndesmosis injury – by showcasing his pace and leap. He just misses out on father-son qualification as the son of former Cat, Paul, but the Cats have several selections around his draft range.
26. Darcy Wilmot
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
Small defender, 182cm, 70kg
Jordan says: Like Brown, Wilmot reads the ball well and breaks lines with his speed and neat skills. But the youngest player in this year’s draft is also as tough and competitive as they come, making for a very sound defensive game.
Dan says: Wilmot is an all-round defensive package, blending exhilarating offensive run and carry with sturdy defensive attributes. And as the youngest player in the draft class, he has plenty of upside.
27. Jack Williams
East Fremantle/WA
Key forward/ruckman, 195cm, 91kg
Jordan says: The versatile WA big man can play in defence and as a mobile ruckman, as he did at different stages this year. But it’s Williams’ marking, bodywork and ability to bring his teammates into the game as a forward that really stands out.
Dan says: With limited key forwards on offer in this year’s draft, Williams looms as the best on offer outside the first round after his consistent dominance in the WAFL Colts – slotting 40 goals and scoring more than 100 ranking points in all but one game. Williams can run all day and showed he is able to pinch-hit in the ruck, clunking four contested marks and kicking two goals in that role in the final match of the national carnival.
28. Blake Howes
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Medium forward, 190cm, 79kg
Jordan says: A lack of exposure has hurt, especially when assessing his potential further up the ground. But, while Howes has done his best work as a speedy, high-marking half-forward, it’s his projection as a tall, athletic wingman that stands out for me.
Dan says: Howes was just beginning to hit his straps as the NAB League season was cancelled, and has the flexibility to be used all over the ground. A unique prospect with his athletic attributes, running capacity overhead marking and ball-winning at ground level.
29. Josh Fahey
Giants Academy/ACT
Running defender/midfielder. 186cm, 76kg
Jordan says: Hasn’t garnered as much attention as some, but Fahey has many appealing traits and the Giants believe he falls somewhere between 15 and 30. He’s strong defensively and boasts serious speed and a penetrating right-foot.
Dan says: The Giants are getting a promising rebounding defender here, who tallied 24 disposals in a VFL match for the Giants earlier in the year. In further evidence he can match it with senior bodies, he won the AFL Academy medal as the side’s best player in its clash against Geelong VFL, impressing with his precise skills and run.
30. Leek Alleer
Central District/SA
Key defender, 195cm, 84kg
Jordan says: The freakishly athletic 20-year-old is raw and, despite starring in the SANFL, will have plenty to learn about playing in defence at the top level. But his ceiling is as high as any key-position prospect in the pool and a club could pounce inside the top 30.
Dan says: A fitting way to close out the 30. The athletic Alleer’s incredible intercepting feats in the SANFL make him an exciting mature-age consideration for clubs. The dearth of key defenders adds to his appeal.
31. Judson Clarke
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Forward/midfielder, 180cm, 70kg
Jordan says: Hard to miss the speedy left-footer, who takes the game on and is damaging forward-of-centre. His attacking traits are as good as any.
Dan says: Put on a show with five goals in the second Victorian trial match, with his elite agility, speed and score impact allowing him to be a forward-half weapon.
32. Angus Sheldrick
Claremont/WA
Midfielder, 179cm, 84kg
Jordan says: Tough, readymade ball-winner bolted up draft boards after a dominant WAFL Colts season and standout national carnival. Lacks a touch of polish, and that’s why I have him slightly lower than this.
Dan says: Entering top-30 calculations with a bullet, Sheldrick is ready to go, has improved his kicking and proved he is a big-game player in the WAFL Colts finals series for Claremont and at the national carnival for WA. Another personal favourite.
33. Mitchito Owens
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro/St Kilda Next Generation Academy
Balanced midfielder, 190cm, 85kg
Jordan says: Standing at 190cm, after a huge late growth spurt, there’s a lot to like about the athletic, high-leaping Owens, who could continue to develop into an attacking weapon. Saints will be nervous on the first night.
Dan says: His rapid rate of improvement, culminating in his 29-disposal display as a late call-up for the Victorian Challenge clash, should have Saints fans excited by the 190cm midfielder. That is, if he doesn’t attract a bid inside the top 20.
34. Rhett Bazzo
Swan Districts/WA
Key defender/forward 195cm, 81kg
Jordan says: Another strong-marking WA tall, who can play at either end of the ground. But I like him behind the ball, and he’d fit perfectly at a number clubs in that role.
Dan says: Narrowly behind Alleer in the key defensive stakes, Bazzo caught my eye in his best-on-ground display in the full-strength national championships opener, and managed to quell a red-hot Jacob van Rooyen in the WAFL Colts grand final.
35. Toby Conway
Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
Ruckman, 205cm, 97kg
Jordan says: Conway’s tap work, mixed with strong hands and outstanding work ethic, make him the best pure ruckman in the pool – even if he is slightly limited, at this stage, outside of that.
Dan says: Conway held his own against Geelong’s VFL side and performed strongly in both matches for Vic Metro, solidifying his status as the leading pure ruckman in the pool.
36. Connor MacDonald
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Midfielder, 184cm, 77kg
Jordan says: One of the most-consistent midfielders in the NAB League, he’s a terrific ball-winner, who kicks long and is always on the move. But sometimes, he doesn’t slow down enough with the ball in hand.
Dan says: A prolific ball-winner in the NAB League with great leadership qualities, MacDonald blew clubs away during interviews and shapes as a promising mid-draft pick-up.
37. Marcus Windhager
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro/St Kilda NGA
Midfielder, 183cm, 82kg
Jordan says: Back injury isn’t ideal, but he’s a slick midfielder, with an impressive turn of foot and plenty of power.
Dan says: Had other midfielders ahead in the queue, largely due to Windhager’s lack of exposure, but his speed and power should be a nice addition for the Saints.
38. Cooper Murley
Norwood/SA
Forward/midfielder, 178cm, 69kg
Jordan says: Battled injury this year but it’s hard to forget what he’s done over the past three years. Murley is quick, clean, well-balanced, wins the ball on the move and uses it well on both feet.
Dan says: Murley has plenty of excitement about him up forward, but was the unlucky one just outside my top 40.
39. Jase Burgoyne
Woodville-West Torrens/SA
Midfielder/defender, 186cm, 65kg
Jordan says: Mixed year for the skillful Port father-son prospect, but he has runs on the board and more talent than most.
Dan says: Liked what I saw in his bottom-age year and while he may not have been as impressive this season, the smooth-mover still managed to hold his own at SANFL level and thrived at the national championships.
40 Corey Warner
East Fremantle/WA
Midfielder, 182cm, 74kg
Jordan says: Breaks away in the same way brother Chad does at the Swans, but Corey is, arguably, more balanced as a midfield prospect.
Dan says: Blitzed the combine and stepping up into the WAFL was impressive, but there are some concerns over his polish at times.
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Jordan says: I have Norwood bolter Alastair Lord at No. 37 on my list, while I love what late WA late bloomer Brady Hough does with the ball in hand. Kai Lohmann has some exciting traits and Tasmanian Sam Banks is another clubs might consider in the middle of the draft.
Dan says: Top Tasmanian talent Sam Banks was at 36 in my rankings, and the elite ball-user shouldn’t be forgotten after entering the year as a potential first round prospect.Victorian Jake Soligo (37) shone on debut VFL for Richmond and for Vic Metro and has a bit of Sydney youngster Errol Gulden about him, while the scoreboad impact of Paul Curtis (38) is among the best of the small forwards in this crop. Defender/forward Corey Preston, entering his 19th year, was on the fringes of my top 40.
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CONSENSUS TOP 40 RANKINGS
2021 AFL Draft - Consensus Rankings
Consensus Player Jordan Pinto Dan Batten
1 Jason Horne-Francis 1 1
2 Nick Daicos 2 2
3 Finn Callaghan 3 4
4 Sam Darcy 4 3
5 Josh Gibcus 5 6
6 Ben Hobbs 8 5
7 Josh Ward 7 8
8 Josh Rachele 11 7
9 Mac Andrew 9 9
10 Josh Sinn 6 12
11 Jye Amiss 13 10
12 Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 12 14
13 Neil Erasmus 15 11
14 Josh Goater 10 17
15 Matthew Johnson 17 13
16 Tyler Sonsie 16 15
17 Jacob van Rooyen 18 16
18 Matthew Roberts 14 19
19 Arlo Draper 20 18
20 Campbell Chesser 19 21
21 Zac Taylor 21 24
22 Mitch Knevitt 25 20
23 Jesse Motlop 24 22
24 Sam Butler 22 23
25 Tom Brown 23 25
26 Darcy Wilmot 26 23
27 Jack Williams 28 27
28 Blake Howes 27 32
29 Josh Fahey 30 28
30 Leek Alleer 31 29
31 Judson Clarke 29 30
32 Angus Sheldrick 39 26
33 Mitch Owens 34 34
34 Rhett Bazzo 36 31
35 Toby Conway 35 33
36 Connor MacDonald 38 35
37 Marcus Windhager 32 39
38 Cooper Murley 33 -
39 Jase Burgoyne 40 40
40 Corey Warner - -
This makes me think our pick 22 (24 after bids) is in a bit of a sweet spot. For comparison, here's the consensus amongst Knightmare, Cal Twomey, CHRIS25, eDPS, and PMBangers:
| Rank | State | Player |
1 | SA | Jason Horne-Francis |
2 | VM | Nick Daicos |
3 | VM | Sam Darcy |
4 | VM | Finn Callaghan |
5 | VM | Josh Ward |
6 | WA | Neil Erasmus |
7 | VC | Josh Gibcus |
8 | VC | Ben Hobbs |
9 | VC | Mac Andrew |
10 | WA | Jye Amiss |
11 | SA | Arlo Draper |
12 | VM | Josh Sinn |
13 | WA | Matthew Johnson |
14 | SA | Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera |
15 | VC | Josh Rachele |
16 | VM | Tyler Sonsie |
17 | SA | Matt Roberts |
18 | VM | Josh Goater |
19 | VM | Darcy Wilmot |
20 | VC | Campbell Chesser |
21 | WA | Jacob van Rooyen |
22 | VC | Mitch Knevitt |
23 | SA | Leek Alleer |
24 | VC | Sam Butler |
25 | VC | Tom Brown |
26 | VM | Mitchito Owens |
27 | WA | Brady Hough |
28 | WA | Jesse Motlop |
29 | VM | Blake Howes |
30 | WA | Rhett Bazzo |
31 | VM | Marcus Windhager |
32 | VM | Zac Taylor |
33 | VC | Toby Conway |
34 | WA | Jack Williams |
35 | VC | Judson Clarke |
36 | VM | Ned Long |
37 | SA | Cooper Beecken |
38 | VM | Lachie Rankin |
39 | NSW-ACT | Josh Fahey |
40 | VC | Connor MacDonald |
41 | WA | Joshua Browne |
42 | SA | Cooper Murley |
43 | SA | Jase Burgoyne |
44 | SA | Lewis Rayson |
45 | QLD | Bodhi Uwland |
46 | SA | Hugh Jackson |
47 | SA | James Willis |
48 | WA | Kade Dittmar |
49 | SA | Morgan Ferres |
50 | SA | Luca Whitelum |
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Road to the draft says that the WB (#23) is up for grabs with Sydney, Geelong and then Collingwood (after the Daicos bid comes and they have secured him) most interested. Sounds like the price will be steep. Later picks and a future pick.
Says Carl would split pick 25 for two later selections and Essendon are throwing around a future 2nd to buy a 2nd rounder this year.
Says Carl would split pick 25 for two later selections and Essendon are throwing around a future 2nd to buy a 2nd rounder this year.
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What happens if the Giants bid on Darcy before Daicos
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Im sure youre interested in us being interested in it too. Mutually beneficial.
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TheBrownDog
I think they will bid on both at 2 anyway.
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If they bid on Daicos first, it allows the pies to match the bid and then trade for the bulldogs pick 23.
If they bid on Darcy first, Collingwood can't trade for pick 23 as it will get swallowed up in the Daicos matching.
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TheBrownDog
I get that but even in the first scenario the pies dont have a future 2nd which is what i imagine the dogs want for 23. Geelong or sydney are both more logical for 23 as both have multiple current 2nds (we have 30 32 34 syd have 31 39) plus future 2nd available.
This approximate 'equivalence' formed from us notionally having four top-10 picks of our own in the PF (against the Demons' seven - if you include where Lever and May were traded in to their club) is a serious misnomer. Apart from May, the earliest draft year of these top 10 picks at Melbourne is 2013. The latest of Geelong's top 10 picks came from 2009. With the others from 2006 and 2007.
You can argue all you like (as some here delight to do) about how horrendously 'experienced' our list has become. But to suggest that there is any meaningful comparison between top 10 picks that are mostly in their prime as distinct from those coming to their final years is quite disingenuous, I believe.
Fully aware that the goalposts will now be shifted in the narrative here to talk about how wrong the Cats have got it in going again and again with experienced players. But we've had one top 10 pick of our own (and it was number 10) in the last 14 drafts. To suggest that doesn't make a massive difference (when the science of drafting has also improved enormously over that time) is just ignoring key facts to suit a predetermined notion in my view.
You can argue all you like (as some here delight to do) about how horrendously 'experienced' our list has become. But to suggest that there is any meaningful comparison between top 10 picks that are mostly in their prime as distinct from those coming to their final years is quite disingenuous, I believe.
Fully aware that the goalposts will now be shifted in the narrative here to talk about how wrong the Cats have got it in going again and again with experienced players. But we've had one top 10 pick of our own (and it was number 10) in the last 14 drafts. To suggest that doesn't make a massive difference (when the science of drafting has also improved enormously over that time) is just ignoring key facts to suit a predetermined notion in my view.
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I see Troy has been appointed Head Coach at Geelong Grammar...
This is the mock I posted (after stuffing it up a couple of times). Gives ammunition to those that may want to trade up I think.
1. North Melbourne - Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Daicos (Bid Matched)
3. Western Bulldogs - Darcy (Bid Matched)
4. GWS - Callaghan
5. Gold Coast - Andrew
6. Adelaide - Ward
7. Hawthorn - Hobbs
8. Fremantle - Erasmus
9. Richmond - Gibcus
10. Fremantle - Amiss
11. St Kilda - Sinn
12. West Coast - Johnson
13. Essendon - Rachelle
14. Port Adelaide - Wangeneen-Milera
15. GWS - Sonsie
16. Brisbane - Goater
17. Richmond - Chesser
18. Sydney - Wilmot
19. Melbourne - Draper
20. Brisbane - Taylor
21. Fremantle - Van Rooyan
22. North Melbourne - Roberts
23. Hawthorn - MacDonald
24. St Kilda - Owens (Bid Matched)
25. Geelong - Brown
26. Hawthorn - Knevitt
27. Carlton - Butler
28. GWS - Fahey (Bid Matched)
29. Richmond - Conway
30. Richmond - Clarke
31. Richmond - Long
32. West Coast - Hough
33. Geelong - Howes
34. Sydney - Murley
35. Geelong - Bazzo
36. Adelaide - Roberts
37. Geelong - Sheldrick
1. North Melbourne - Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Daicos (Bid Matched)
3. Western Bulldogs - Darcy (Bid Matched)
4. GWS - Callaghan
5. Gold Coast - Andrew
6. Adelaide - Ward
7. Hawthorn - Hobbs
8. Fremantle - Erasmus
9. Richmond - Gibcus
10. Fremantle - Amiss
11. St Kilda - Sinn
12. West Coast - Johnson
13. Essendon - Rachelle
14. Port Adelaide - Wangeneen-Milera
15. GWS - Sonsie
16. Brisbane - Goater
17. Richmond - Chesser
18. Sydney - Wilmot
19. Melbourne - Draper
20. Brisbane - Taylor
21. Fremantle - Van Rooyan
22. North Melbourne - Roberts
23. Hawthorn - MacDonald
24. St Kilda - Owens (Bid Matched)
25. Geelong - Brown
26. Hawthorn - Knevitt
27. Carlton - Butler
28. GWS - Fahey (Bid Matched)
29. Richmond - Conway
30. Richmond - Clarke
31. Richmond - Long
32. West Coast - Hough
33. Geelong - Howes
34. Sydney - Murley
35. Geelong - Bazzo
36. Adelaide - Roberts
37. Geelong - Sheldrick
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If we’re going to grab Jacob Van Rooyen it’s gonna take a pick in the teens. Best two way BIG swing man in the draft. The mids from picks 15-40 are much of muchness… IMO. The best player available scenario might see us grab a few that aren’t ever mentioned on our BG page. JVR & Jack Williams anyone?? Gonna be really interesting in the next couple weeks.
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Wonder if 34 and 50 would get 25 and wonder if we would do it.
Can’t see a trade being done until draft night if there’s someone still on the board we want
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Youve got roberts at 22 and 36.
Make that stuffed up 3 times!
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