Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists PT2

[Drunkcat]

The guy that was over looked by every team ? that guy ?
Must of been a reason that all had passed on him.
Pretty sure there were like 2-3 big/taller backman available and Wells decided none were worthy.

Yeah but look at what we did get a player we did not need, we needed a backman so should have give him a go

 

[Kitcat]

Yeah but look at what we did get a player we did not need, we needed a backman so should have give him a go

Wells chose a type of player that we did not need, and Williams was delisted after 3 months, so it was hardly a success.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Yeah but look at what we did get a player we did not need, we needed a backman so should have give him a go

We didn't need a backman after round 11.
And if we did Wells didnt see anyone good enough to pick... if he did most likely he would of.
Gave a young bloke some a taste of AFL. We are a good club like that.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Wells chose a type of player that we did not need, and Williams was delisted after 3 months, so it was hardly a success.

Not all become success stories. So as Wells says... we move on.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Wells chose a type of player that we did not need, and Williams was delisted after 3 months, so it was hardly a success.

I dont mind taking a punt on the zane william style mozzie small forwards, alot of them can slip through cracks and end up very good bargain gets. Am happy to play a bit of russian roulette and so far our strike rate is close/williams. 50/50 return of late

 

[GeelongFTW]

You can't shorten the trade period too much. Players need time to consider all their options for the their future career.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

100%. He has the Selwood's about him when it comes to hardness and the ability to sense the moment when his team needs him to go so hard he changes momentum. What he doesn't have is anywhere near the athletic attributes of Selwood. Surefire quality 200 plus games I reckon but for the first pick we have inside 10 in 15 years I would rather chase a player with a higher ceiling!

Thats the risk reward some in this draft have much higher ceilings than clark but they could be busts and play less than 40 games. He is a bankable 10 year solid player at worst (think what cam guthrie was before TK left and he had his AA year) and thats not a bad thing. Depends on how much risk you want with our highest pick in 15 years.

 

[GeelongFTW]

Thats the risk reward some in this draft have much higher ceilings than clark but they could be busts and play less than 40 games. He is a bankable 10 year solid player at worst (think what cam guthrie was before TK left and he had his AA year) and thats not a bad thing. Depends on how much risk you want with our highest pick in 15 years.

You reckon hawks will pass for someone with more outside play? We have Bruhn, Holmes and even Henry for outside class so could do with Clark's inside grunt.

 

[TheAthlete]

Thats the risk reward some in this draft have much higher ceilings than clark but they could be busts and play less than 40 games. He is a bankable 10 year solid player at worst (think what cam guthrie was before TK left and he had his AA year) and thats not a bad thing. Depends on how much risk you want with our highest pick in 15 years.

Yeah I think you could perhaps more importantly make the point how much reward do you want from your highest pick in 15 years. The only time when you can get a really high reward. There is risk with everyone but surely if you have a high pick for the first time in ages that is the time to take the gamble that someone with a higher upside will succeed in the best development system in the game. Having said that I think we will take him if he is there and he will be a good player so it might be win win.

 

[TheAthlete]

I'm warming to him if Clark is still there.

He will be one of the best players to come out of this draft all things being equal. Never seen a kid with more drive to be great. You can argue his level of talent but what I think absolutely cannot be argued is whatever talent he has he will get the absolute best out of it like few kids before him.

 

[bombersboy]

What are the thoughts of using our late pick on Jed Anderson

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Jed Anderson

Age

30

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.0

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.7

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

? Would give us extra mid field depth. In a better side I think he could have a decent upside for a couple of years

 

[BORIS332]

I know nothing about his character and will let Wells vet them and not rely on gossip, but on footballing ability he's the best option from what I can see, especially based on projection and versatility.

Seems like a Kyle Langford clone to me.

 

[BORIS332]

With rumours of Tsatas sliding, it seems we’re in the sweet spot of the draft. Ashcroft a clear #1 with daylight between him and the next prospect. Seems Sheezel and Wardlaw are #2 and #3, but clearly GWS strongly keen on Cadman.

Then you can throw a napkin over picks 5-10 with all of Tsatas, Phillipou, Humphrey, Clark, MacKenzie, Ginbey, etc. in the mix. We’re going to get a talent.

 

[King Cat]

Hes not necessarily huge height or weight wise but he is very tough. Its always hard to project how draftees will go in seniors if they havent played against men but his inside game and body isnt something that worries me with him.

If I recall correctly he played senior football at Queenscliff as a 15 year old. So I guess that could count as playing against men in a sense. Acquitted himself well too apparently


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[dazbroncos]

With rumours of Tsatas sliding, it seems we’re in the sweet spot of the draft. Ashcroft a clear #1 with daylight between him and the next prospect. Seems Sheezel and Wardlaw are #2 and #3, but clearly GWS strongly keen on Cadman.

Then you can throw a napkin over picks 5-10 with all of Tsatas, Phillipou, Humphrey, Clark, MacKenzie, Ginbey, etc. in the mix. We’re going to get a talent.

Or get a bounty of picks for 2023 if someone comes calling bc they MUST move up.
If someone drifts and we get the call to trade out and bounty is great… must be considered.

Go Catters

 

[Kitcat]

Or get a bounty of picks for 2023 if someone comes calling bc they MUST move up.
If someone drifts and we get the call to trade out and bounty is great… must be considered.

Go Catters

Yes, it should be considered. But a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. With pick 7 we know who we are getting and who knows what the quality available next year will be for a couple of picks in the teens.
Plus we get a year’s development in with pick 7 and he will be more ready to step up when the retirements hit.

 

[Strange Cat]

Are we there yet ?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

You reckon hawks will pass for someone with more outside play? We have Bruhn, Holmes and even Henry for outside class so could do with Clark's inside grunt.

If I'm the hawks I'm not taking a pure inside mid unless they can also play either back or fwd or wing, because newcombe worpel stephens and nash are largely all one position players (inside mid) so for that reason if I was them I would be leaning tsatas (in the unlikely event he gets to 6) or phillipou or mckenzie over clark but honestly they could just as easily take clark as BPA. I do think clark is probably a better fit for our list needs than theirs.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Yeah I think you could perhaps more importantly make the point how much reward do you want from your highest pick in 15 years. The only time when you can get a really high reward. There is risk with everyone but surely if you have a high pick for the first time in ages that is the time to take the gamble that someone with a higher upside will succeed in the best development system in the game. Having said that I think we will take him if he is there and he will be a good player so it might be win win.

That's true and I can see both schools of thought there ie you take a riskier prospect who could be a bust or be absolutely elite over a lock in 200 game B + grader (every side needs quality middle tier players though which is the point i was making re guthrie). For clubs that dont get high picks very often (ie us) taking a safer pick that wont bust isnt necessarily bad. I was just pointing out that clark tends to carry a lot less risk than the other top 15 guys this year simply because theres less that can go wrong with his game and he has less flaws so while he may not have the complete upside of others hes a safer pick imo.

 

[David the Cat]

I'm sorry DTC but this is the third time this has happened in the last day, and I'd already been respectful in my sign off in my last post two days ago - saying I understand people's perspectives differ and that we had reached an impasse...yet this was out of nowhere and completely targeted at me...yet again. I did not go at their character/opinion- or anyone else on this board for that matter. This was not a two way street.

We have a system right now where we can attack people directly, yet the posts get deleted...so I get to feel like s**t, yet have no recourse to defend myself - because it's off topic and not to be discussed...which I have abided by...but others choose to ignore.

How is this fair?

With respect to your opening paragraph, my post asking that the to-and-fro end, was not holding you responsible...it was simply a recognition that it was time to move on as the posts were becoming personal. I see it as a Moderator responsibility to keep posts civil, on-topic and where necessary step in where posts are drifting away from football issues.

With respect to your second paragraph, ...yes, I plead guilty for deleting abusive or poster based "contributions" in the (perhaps forlorn) hope that the poster will understand that poster focussed input isn't worth the effort, knowing it will be deleted. And you do have recourse to defend yourself...report it to the Mods for adjudication .. you would be surprised what happens behind the scenes when Mods are made aware of repeated resorting to argumentative and/or inflammatory rhetoric evidenced by sometimes long periods of silence from the perpetrators...you may have noticed the absence of some "personalities" who repeatedly transgressed and ignored Mod warnings...

Bottom line? If your attacked personally let the Mods deal with it behind the scenes. Responding publicly only feeds the troll/abuser..much better dealt with by us as we have recourse to actions that you don't have,

 

[Gee Class Loco]

If I'm the hawks I'm not taking a pure inside mid unless they can also play either back or fwd or wing, because newcombe worpel stephens and nash are largely all one position players (inside mid) so for that reason if I was them I would be leaning tsatas (in the unlikely event he gets to 6) or phillipou or mckenzie over clark but honestly they could just as easily take clark as BPA. I do think clark is probably a better fit for our list needs than theirs.

(Clark) Is he though? Or is he the BPA in the midfield section?
and that be inside mid IMO??
The BPA scenario is a furry of sorts, it should be in a category. Mids both in/out forwards tall/med/small backs tall/mediums/small...etc
Do we want/need a inside mid? or a winger? what about a Forward big or medium? A key defender or medium defender?
Clark is a a small pure inside mid yes?
Does he fit our needs? No i can't see it myself.
Bruhn, Knevitt, Willis, Kroeger, Bowes, Parfitt, Atkins all inside mids for me. Add Clohesy thats 8 without using Danger.
5 of those are/will be under 21.
We have zero depth at FF/CHF bar Neale who is on his last year of his contract and FB/CHB where we have Sav who also is on his last year.
As for the Ruck department. We have Conway and 2 players that are 31 and 32 respectively.
Questions though. Have we got any Free agents or RFA that we have targeted for next year? McKay? Ruckman? Parish?
If so... that changes everything year again.
I'm not too focused on Clark the falcon or the Selwood clone rather than what would be a better fit for us going forward.
For me players like Busslinger, Humphrey, MacKenzie, Phillipou, Hayes even Darcy Jones offer us more in terms of ceilings and variety of positions they could play.
Interesting times ahead. I can't wait.
Cheers PO

 

[TheAthlete]

That's true and I can see both schools of thought there ie you take a riskier prospect who could be a bust or be absolutely elite over a lock in 200 game B + grader (every side needs quality middle tier players though which is the point i was making re guthrie). For clubs that dont get high picks very often (ie us) taking a safer pick that wont bust isnt necessarily bad. I was just pointing out that clark tends to carry a lot less risk than the other top 15 guys this year simply because theres less that can go wrong with his game and he has less flaws so while he may not have the complete upside of others hes a safer pick imo.

yeah I totally get that and it makes perfect sense.

 

[you pick one]

(Clark) Is he though? Or is he the BPA in the midfield section?
and that be inside mid IMO??
The BPA scenario is a furry of sorts, it should be in a category. Mids both in/out forwards tall/med/small backs tall/mediums/small...etc
Do we want/need a inside mid? or a winger? what about a Forward big or medium? A key defender or medium defender?
Clark is a a small pure inside mid yes?
Does he fit our needs? No i can't see it myself.
Bruhn, Knevitt, Willis, Kroeger, Bowes, Parfitt, Atkins all inside mids for me. Add Clohesy thats 8 without using Danger.
5 of those are/will be under 21.
We have zero depth at FF/CHF bar Neale who is on his last year of his contract and FB/CHB where we have Sav who also is on his last year.
As for the Ruck department. We have Conway and 2 players that are 31 and 32 respectively.
Questions though. Have we got any Free agents or RFA that we have targeted for next year? McKay? Ruckman? Parish?
If so... that changes everything year again.
I'm not too focused on Clark the falcon or the Selwood clone rather than what would be a better fit for us going forward.
For me players like Busslinger, Humphrey, MacKenzie, Phillipou, Hayes even Darcy Jones offer us more in terms of ceilings and variety of positions they could play.
Interesting times ahead. I can't wait.
Cheers PO

I like the look of Phillipou.He'd be my choice.

 

[bombersboy]

(Clark) Is he though? Or is he the BPA in the midfield section?
and that be inside mid IMO??
The BPA scenario is a furry of sorts, it should be in a category. Mids both in/out forwards tall/med/small backs tall/mediums/small...etc
Do we want/need a inside mid? or a winger? what about a Forward big or medium? A key defender or medium defender?
Clark is a a small pure inside mid yes?
Does he fit our needs? No i can't see it myself.
Bruhn, Knevitt, Willis, Kroeger, Bowes, Parfitt, Atkins all inside mids for me. Add Clohesy thats 8 without using Danger.
5 of those are/will be under 21.
We have zero depth at FF/CHF bar Neale who is on his last year of his contract and FB/CHB where we have Sav who also is on his last year.
As for the Ruck department. We have Conway and 2 players that are 31 and 32 respectively.
Questions though. Have we got any Free agents or RFA that we have targeted for next year? McKay? Ruckman? Parish?
If so... that changes everything year again.
I'm not too focused on Clark the falcon or the Selwood clone rather than what would be a better fit for us going forward.
For me players like Busslinger, Humphrey, MacKenzie, Phillipou, Hayes even Darcy Jones offer us more in terms of ceilings and variety of positions they could play.
Interesting times ahead. I can't wait.
Cheers PO

If Clark has Selwood like appetite for the contest then the only competion in this group is Atkins and to an extent Parfitt. I do not see it in Bruhn or Knevitt. Willis, Kroeger and Bowes I have not seen enough of and Clohesy I have not seen at all.

 

[Vdubs]

Philipou for mine, and then we invite GAblett snr to come to the club and mentor this kid, who nominated Gary as his GOAT