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[cats_09]

 

[year of the cat]

It’s way better than favourable. It’s a dream run. It may end up flattering us but we will finish 4th-6th.

Wow! You are maintaining the faith more than an LNP fan plonking $100 on Morrison to still get up.

I reckon 8-10.

 

[catempire]

Wow! You are maintaining the faith more than an LNP fan plonking $100 on Morrison to still get up.

I reckon 8-10.

Nah, nothing to do with faith. I’m realistic about the side’s talent. But all that matters is wins. The draw is incredible.

 

[year of the cat]

Nah, nothing to do with faith. I’m realistic about the side’s talent. But all that matters is wins. The draw is incredible.

Have another look at our last 5 rounds. We could lose all but one of them if the wheels fall off. Two games against WC and another against Nth make it look a lot better easier than the reality may end up being.

 

[catempire]

Have another look at our last 5 rounds. We could lose all but one of them if the wheels fall off. Two games against WC and another against Nth make it look a lot better easier than the reality may end up being.

“if the wheels fall off”

 

[year of the cat]

“if the wheels fall off”

Well, if you lose 4/5 then the wheels have fallen off!

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We can not just think about a player for now, has to be about our future also

We need both. Which is why you take a ruck in msd who is younger not 30 but who can play straight away as we will need them to by round 14 or so.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Has Conway played any games in the VFL or is he still injured?

Has been injured but might play vfl in next 2 weeks.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Yes, it’s favourable but even you didn’t think we’d drop the Hawks and Saints games did you? I reckon this weekend’s game at home against Port is almost a litmus test to what to expect for the remainder of the season. Lose that, and I reckon we’re done. Win it, we hang in to maybe finish 8th.

I think the Dogs and probably Port (now they are getting players back) are better than us and should both play finals. Of the teams in the 8 currently, only Freo I reckon are vulnerable. I’m still not convinced by them despite them beating us at home.

I dont disagree with that but we have a soft draw with kp games in the run home and we will have a lot of our injured guys (bar henry who i dont think we see again this year) will be back. We will finish 6th-8th but wont win flag.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Ryder last night had 2 hit outs to advantage at half time.
At 3/4 time he had 9
Enough said

And ryder is almost finished so that tells you how bad our rucks are.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

This kid is another....

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/localfooty/nab-league/northern-knights-bookends-excite-in-big-nab-league-win-over-sydney/news-story/ce875a0e0c53bb8fec74b95b65c88670

Northern Knights bookends excite in big NAB League win over Sydney​

Northern Knights might have unearthed a key defender gem, while an exciting forward made an instant impact in a big win over Sydney.


Northern Knights showcased it’s depth of talent with a 69-point thrashing of Sydney.
Led by 26 disposals from Patrick Dozzi and three goals each to Nate Caddy, Rohan McKenzie and Jack Chubb, the Knights were a class above at Highgate Reserve.

The NAB League talent factory may also have unearthed a key position gem in the 14.11 (95) to 3.8 (26) victory.

At 204cm, Sam Grant shone at full-back having previously spent most of his time as a ruck-forward.

Knights coach Leigh Clarke was excited by the 19-year-old’s potential.

“Sam Grant, playing down back for the first time, at 204cm taking contested marks, intercept marks and spoiling showed what he can do and we’re looking forward to seeing more of it,” Clarke said.

“That positional change, he was always a ruck-forward, came about after a conversation with our head of talent ID, Alex Davies.

“He felt he played his best footy down back and we’d been playing up forward.

“To his credit he’s never argued, he’s played the role we needed, and on the weekend he showed the ability to play a key position role in a high-end way.

“His defensive craft was really strong, there’s a lot of work with there.”

The future of key defenders is now shifting to 200+cm in terms of requirements, with key forwards now 200cm+ and also a forward ruck, having two SDK is a perfect world scenario to have with your jake lever/tom stewart type medium defenders peeling off intercepting and creating play.

 

[calder_daddy]

And ryder is almost finished so that tells you how bad our rucks are.

Made him look like a star last night

 

[SkittleCats]

Normally i rage at Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

when he says after a lose that: "yeah but if you look at the state of the comp it's actually really even which makes it hard to predict week to week" blah blah blah...But he is actually right this year if im honest.

Fremantle being embarrassed today is a sign of this, Saints are as likely to win next week as barely be competitive. Outside of Melbourne it really is anybody's guess who will make the top 4. Even Brisbane arent a certainty. And we know on this board what can happen when a team runs away with the season, barely drops a game all year, and then make the Grand Final...If Melbourne put too much effort into going unbeaten and dont manage their list appropriately then it's likely they'll hit September in not great shape.

Modern football isnt hard: win the ball in the contest and then move quickly on the spread, that's the whole game, and where we got smashed last night. We are carrying three players right now who simply cant contribute to correcting that problem: Zuthrie, Miers and MOC are the weak links in this team. With those players in you ask more of Dangerfield, Duncan, Selwood, Parfitt and Guthrie than we need to be, as they have to step up to fill the breach. This is why kids like Stephens are so important. They dont need to star, they just need to get into the contest at stoppages and help win the ball. That takes pressure off Danger and Duncan (among others) and allows them to spend more time on the outside helping to set us up which is where their strength is, rather than having to do all the work of winning the ball in the contest and then having to do all the spread and run if we do win it.

This is why the selection of Knevitt makes no sense while also dropping Stephens; Knevitt doesnt help us in the contest (at least not yet). There is no point playing more outside run players like him, ontop of Smith, Duncan, Danger et al if we arent winning it in the contest in the first place, and more so if they then struggle to help us put pressure on to force a turnover and win it back. This is the knock on Miers, MOC and Zuthrie; they try but they simply dont do enough without the ball in hand, and very little with it. Having more inside players would help mitigate the ruck issues as well, as we would be able to put more pressure on around a stoppage to nullify the hit out to advantage. Id even go so far as to say that Dahlhaus may still have a role to play in this team if he is allowed to play as an inside mid. He played that role beautifully against Collingwood after coming on as the sub, and the difference it made to us was incredible (i am not saying Dahlhaus is a great player, just that we need the extra players to rotate through the midfield and he can play that role, settle down). I am still astounded at how obvious the difference was for us to have the extra man around the contest rather than the tall utility of Sav who didnt actually impact the contest at all. It was such an obvious lesson in how the modern game is played i am amazed we seem to have forgotten it (not really, Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

is a moron).

I agree with the assessment of our remaining games: our fixture opens up incredibly after the bye and represents a huge opportunity for the remainder of this year. Draft a ruckman who can go straight away in the mid season draft (or rotate through the team with Stanley), and give the inside game the respect it deserves and we could still salvage something from this season.

 

[MacStradbroke]

Read the last 7 or 8 pages and I see Geelong supporters want Selwood AND Hawkins retired at seasons end. Not sure if watching so far this season tbh. Don’t care what the reasons are either as I don’t agree. Selwood still our most influential and important mid at the stoppages and Hawkins, well….

Show me a kid who can replace them then we can all discuss, until then though, play the best team. (Please do not mention Narkle as a Selwood replacement)

 

[And_ROOS]

Hawkins could probably play until he is 40 to be honest. Honestly I can't think of a rule change they could bring in that would **** up how he plays.

Hawk can play til he decides he doesn't want to.

 

[Cataholic]

Hawkins could probably play until he is 40 to be honest. Honestly I can't think of a rule change they could bring in that would fu** up how he plays.

Hawk can play til he decides he doesn't want to.

Another 6.5 years?

No.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Yes, it’s favourable but even you didn’t think we’d drop the Hawks and Saints games did you? I reckon this weekend’s game at home against Port is almost a litmus test to what to expect for the remainder of the season. Lose that, and I reckon we’re done. Win it, we hang in to maybe finish 8th.

I think the Dogs and probably Port (now they are getting players back) are better than us and should both play finals. Of the teams in the 8 currently, only Freo I reckon are vulnerable. I’m still not convinced by them despite them beating us at home.

We'll play finals. Won't do much but we'll get there again.
Silver lining being it is the Dees flag to lose and they'll have to play poorly in September to miss B2B.

Still have 2x Eagles and another NM game. That is up to 8 wins. Only would need 4 more.
Dogs and Saints at KP should be 2 more. Two Adelaide clubs we have 3 games. Doubt we go 0/3.

We'll get there.

More interested in what direction we take with MSD and if we're bold enough in October to put someone up as trade bait to get another pick inside 30 somewhere.

I think we're in a position now where we should be looking at players who have some value but aren't going to be critical or important going forward and take the hit putting them up as bait. A shame Sav isn't playing something other than poor football of late, he's one I think we could be better off without.

Narkle won't fetch us anything. Could we shop O'Connor, maybe we should but he'd get us little. You disagree but there's another I'd happily see us lose. Neale is improving and could be tempted home, but that threat isn't enough an incentive to play him IMO. Hawkins and Cameron are clear ahead as forwards.

Meek I'd be happy to look at. Bruhn also. Will be staggered if clubs don't try and shake Weideman and Petty/Tomlinson loose from the Dees. Would love Petty given his age but he's the one getting games atm so the less likely to be tempted away.

 

[Cataholic]

We'll play finals. Won't do much but we'll get there again.
Silver lining being it is the Dees flag to lose and they'll have to play poorly in September to miss B2B.

Still have 2x Eagles and another NM game. That is up to 8 wins. Only would need 4 more.
Dogs and Saints at KP should be 2 more. Two Adelaide clubs we have 3 games. Doubt we go 0/3.

We'll get there.

More interested in what direction we take with MSD and if we're bold enough in October to put someone up as trade bait to get another pick inside 30 somewhere.

I think we're in a position now where we should be looking at players who have some value but aren't going to be critical or important going forward and take the hit putting them up as bait. A shame Sav isn't playing something other than poor football of late, he's one I think we could be better off without.

Narkle won't fetch us anything. Could we shop O'Connor, maybe we should but he'd get us little. You disagree but there's another I'd happily see us lose. Neale is improving and could be tempted home, but that threat isn't enough an incentive to play him IMO. Hawkins and Cameron are clear ahead as forwards.

Meek I'd be happy to look at. Bruhn also. Will be staggered if clubs don't try and shake Weideman and Petty/Tomlinson loose from the Dees. Would love Petty given his age but he's the one getting games atm so the less likely to be tempted away.

Yeah, we'll probably make the finals - and get blown away like an autumn leaf in a gale.

The only hope is that those who matter don't believe the window is ajar, and recognise we're decaying from within.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

So we can hope to get another solid but not spectacular footballer with another mid twenties pick? He is what he is: Solid, but nothing special. If you know what you're doing at draft time that's usually what you get from a mid twenties pick.

I don't care anymore. Wanted him punted after the 2019 PF, and 2.5 years later he's still not good enough.
Enough is enough. They won't drop him so trade him, just get him out.

 

[calder_daddy]

We'll play finals. Won't do much but we'll get there again.
Silver lining being it is the Dees flag to lose and they'll have to play poorly in September to miss B2B.

Still have 2x Eagles and another NM game. That is up to 8 wins. Only would need 4 more.
Dogs and Saints at KP should be 2 more. Two Adelaide clubs we have 3 games. Doubt we go 0/3.

We'll get there.

More interested in what direction we take with MSD and if we're bold enough in October to put someone up as trade bait to get another pick inside 30 somewhere.

I think we're in a position now where we should be looking at players who have some value but aren't going to be critical or important going forward and take the hit putting them up as bait. A shame Sav isn't playing something other than poor football of late, he's one I think we could be better off without.

Narkle won't fetch us anything. Could we shop O'Connor, maybe we should but he'd get us little. You disagree but there's another I'd happily see us lose. Neale is improving and could be tempted home, but that threat isn't enough an incentive to play him IMO. Hawkins and Cameron are clear ahead as forwards.

Meek I'd be happy to look at. Bruhn also. Will be staggered if clubs don't try and shake Weideman and Petty/Tomlinson loose from the Dees. Would love Petty given his age but he's the one getting games atm so the less likely to be tempted away.

Though we don’t rate him.
I think you could get a 2nd for Sav

If Petty wins a 2nd flag, a nice contract will get him I think.
Give him a 5 year deal on good cash and he’s anyones

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Though we don’t rate him.
I think you could get a 2nd for Sav

Would you do it?
He's clearly done little the last 2 years but do they still believe he can explode? I am not sold on that but they see him daily, we don't.

But he is looming as being very unspectacular that I'd probably take 2nd rounder if it were offered this off-season.

 

[foxdog50]

We need both. Which is why you take a ruck in msd who is younger not 30 but who can play straight away as we will need them to by round 14 or so.

So if you had to choose 1 player in the MSD. Will it be a ruck or a KDF

 

[Art Vandelay_]

So if you had to choose 1 player in the MSD. Will it be a ruck or a KDF

I'd be taking the best mid available, hopefully there's someone out there that's as useful as Newcombe at the Hawks.

 

[calder_daddy]

Would you do it?
He's clearly done little the last 2 years but do they still believe he can explode? I am not sold on that but they see him daily, we don't.

But he is looming as being very unspectacular that I'd probably take 2nd rounder if it were offered this off-season.

Absolutely I would, for mine he might explode.
But unless he learns how to use his frame and read the flight of the ball he’s always going to be what could’ve been

 

[foxdog50]

Read the last 7 or 8 pages and I see Geelong supporters want Selwood AND Hawkins retired at seasons end. Not sure if watching so far this season tbh. Don’t care what the reasons are either as I don’t agree. Selwood still our most influential and important mid at the stoppages and Hawkins, well….

Show me a kid who can replace them then we can all discuss, until then though, play the best team. (Please do not mention Narkle as a Selwood replacement)

But that's the sad thing on the situation of where our club is atm with our list management and structure
It's a bad look that our a 34 year old midfielder is probably still in our best 2 midfielders...
We shouldn't have to rely on Joel Selwood as playing still as a midfielder

 

[foxdog50]

I'd be taking the best mid available, hopefully there's someone out there that's as useful as Newcombe at the Hawks.

Hmmmm I would go a Key Defender