Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Fine to ask for more from players, and opine that their efforts arent enough for standards we as fans set.

But it can be done in a way that IMO is better than that.

The sentiment is fine - my small issue was with the delivery which you subsequently agreed was not your best.

And as for other supporters around me during games... Id luv to able to have that sadly footy for me is a truly solo venture.

Moving on

GO Catters

All good Daz. We move on. Cheers Bud!

 

[rapidfire7]

Jack Viney

7

Jack Viney

Age

30

Ht

179cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.1

5star

K

9.4

4star

HB

12.6

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

5.7

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

21.8

5star

K

10.3

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

4.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

to Geelong. Thoughts?

Cats were really into him a few years back. A great inside ball wnner. Just what we need atm in my opinion.

He would still be under contract for another year, after signing a 5 year deal with the Demons at the end of 2020.

At 30, he shouldn't cost us the earth I wouldn't think, and should still have 3-4 good years in him.

Personally, I really like him as a player and think he would be a great fit all round.

What are your thoughts? What would he cost us?

 

[frggr]

I reckon Viney's only got two good years in him - but he does fill a need for us and would provide valuable knowledge and insight into the game for our youngsters.

I've always appreciated his hard-headed nature. Definitely gets the most out of what he's got.

 

[Warhorse]

I like him and think he is a real player. I don't think he is a fit for our list though

 

[supahoops]

I think you've confused Danger with Ollie Bahaha.
Yeah Yeah. I have admitted the P Heat jibe was below the belt but please don't insult my intelligence by telling me he was instrumental in us beating Freo.
Frankly speaking. He has been below par pretty much all year and anyone who thinks he hasn't equalled our performed on a trajectory folks had him pegged for prior to the season is kidding themselves.
I'll leave it at that as the slope of the whole "Ollie Henry value/worth/untapped ability, ceiling" blah blah has sailed into reality and it's not as rosy as it's been portrayed by some.
Cheers Bud.

Missed a couple he might normally have kicked, maybe a bit sore but go through the mini match and look at his involvements if you can’t see it I can’t help you..

 

[rapidfire7]

I like him and think he is a real player. I don't think he is a fit for our list though

His age or?

 

[Biggy_Boy]

He wants to go to North with his dad, doesn't he?

 

[rapidfire7]

He wants to go to North with his dad, doesn't he?

Probably, but nothing is certain. I wouldn't be against making a play for him is all I'm saying.

 

[MacStradbroke]

In an Ideal world we would tell Ollie Henry to have the rest of the year off and start again next season clearly just not clicking for him this year and this happens, the club just need to protect him still very young and lots to learn.

You’re not playing very well, take the rest of the year off and ignore the fact we have finals coming up

When has that happened, ever?

 

[frggr]

Murdoch press reporting that Petracca rumours of wanting to leave are definitely true (Tom Morris doubling down), but whether it can/will happen remains to be seen.

 

[frggr]

Not a fan.

He looks great when he bobs up and kicks his 2-3 goals, but when his lead mark game infront of goals is not working for him, he becomes a large liability across the game.

How many times has Ollie Henry run back to help out in defense?? Or how many intercept marks across hb Has he taken??

He leaves it all up to the other half forwards and cherry picks the hard work of others

If he's getting a defender, then he's not a liability. His team mates need to shift their focus and either stop bombing it on his head, or find another target that isn't Henry.

 

[MacStradbroke]

Another 5ft 10 mid who can’t kick, and he’s nearly done, hard pass here.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Dees or North for him... We not chance anyway.

 

[Johanpetro]

Murdoch press reporting that Petracca rumours of wanting to leave are definitely true (Tom Morris doubling down), but whether it can/will happen remains to be seen.

Huge if true for other clubs, unfortunately irrelevant to Geelong. 0% chance we have anything close to what they’d accept

 

[My Tilly]

Huge if true for other clubs, unfortunately irrelevant to Geelong. 0% chance we have anything close to what they’d accept

Hopefully we get the next Petracca in a few years time.

 

[frggr]

Huge if true for other clubs, unfortunately irrelevant to Geelong. 0% chance we have anything close to what they’d accept

While I agree it's unlikely, I think it's foolish to say 'never'.

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

Ollie Henry for Trac... sorted !

 

[Biggy_Boy]

I'd take Trac over Smith, so if he wants to come to the Cats, I'd be allocating the trade capital earmarked for Smith to get that deal done, though that would likely not be enough and I doubt he wants to come here.

 

[D BRIDGE]

I'd take Trac over Smith, so if he wants to come to the Cats, I'd be allocating the trade capital earmarked for Smith to get that deal done, though that would likely not be enough and I doubt he wants to come here.

You will need to double the trade capital to even get a sniff of Petracca.

We are no shot at him.

He isn't the youngest either.

 

[Jumping Jack]

Chances of Petracca leaving Melbourne FC would be very slim - less than 5% chance IMO.

Chances of him playing for a non metro Melbourne club equally as slim. He wants success so that will narrow down the clubs in the mix - everyone will say Pies but they have a terrible draft hand - Carlton might go hard but they must be tight for cap space with big contracts for Curnow - McKay - Weitering and Walsh. Essendon might be a sleeper but hard to see them winning a flag before Petracca is cooked.

Geelong will sniff and ask the right questions but I wouldn't waste too much energy on him getting to Geelong.

 

[Jumping Jack]

I'd take Trac over Smith, so if he wants to come to the Cats, I'd be allocating the trade capital earmarked for Smith to get that deal done, though that would likely not be enough and I doubt he wants to come here.

Petracca would be a Tim Kelly / Jeremey Camerson sized deal that comes with a giant anchor as far as his current contract in concerned. The only clubs with cap space and draft capital would be at the lower end of the ladder and there's no way he'll go somewhere without a good chance of a flag in the next few years.

 

[moond0g]

if you cant see the difference between Trac and Oliver as players and people based on where they both are at now then all I can do is give you OPSM's number to assist in your vision development.

GO Catters

Not debating for a second that Oliver and Trac are in very, very different spots right now.

But it's got nothing to do with where they're at right now. It's about where they were when they signed their respective long term deals. Oliver had just come off a year as the AFLCA MVPA, and was halfway through a year where he won it again. He was rightly considered one of the best players in the league.

The point is, there's risk associated with any long term deal due to form, injury, personal issues etc. And you can argue that certain players are deserving and other not. e.g., if in 2021/22 you were saying that the Petracca contract was ok, but the Oliver one was not, then that's totally fine. But you can't retrospectively say that one contract is ok, but another is not based on where there at NOW. Or argue that all long-term contracts are bad when it's the long-term contract which has essentially protected Melbourne from losing Petracca at all in this instance.

 

[My Tilly]

The Melbourne footy club have history when it comes to self destruction of epic proportions. They won't recover from this if they let both of Petracca & Viney go.

 

[Strange Cat]

The Melbourne footy club have history when it comes to self destruction of epic proportions. They won't recover from this if they let both of Petracca & Viney go.

Even worse if those two players goes and they keep Oliver would be a amazing implosion to witness

 

[My Tilly]

Even worse if those two players goes and they keep Oliver would be a amazing implosion to witness

Ridiculous to sign Oliver up to such an extremely long contract. He was not a generational talent.
Has Geelong ever given a player a 7 year contract? I mean 5 years max.