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List Mgmt. Gibbs - 2017 trade discussions! (Gibbs swapped for Wigg or 2nd)
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Two firsts is too much. I guess it comes down to what is actually true. If we didn't offer our first and a future second for Gibbs in a straight swap at any point, and instead haggled over getting a future 3rd back, then that was a ridiculous move. I'd like to think that isn't true, but that's what's being reported.
Not really. It is more plausible that the crows tried to get more from the suns before they allowed/told Lyons to nominate GC. In fact, in the end GC did us a favour by offering us 43 when they could have had him for nothing. And, I must admit, Lyons may have helped us somewhat by nominating them at all.
Is 2 firsts too much to pay for a premiership? Or a genuine shot at a premiership? Because if you think Gibbs would have given us a genuine crack at it, youre basically saying yes.
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Look i said i wasn't prepared to put my credentials out on a footy forum .......but it seems , like #Tradewhisperer the time has come to share ......you'll understand why i have been posting a lot recently, as i have quite a bit of spare time coming upStill waiting for your odds to come through
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Its a good looking trade but I very much doubt crows hadn't thought of it/already pitched the idea.
Carlton wanted to make us bleed.
Reported by whom? The only report I have read that states this, has been from Carlton posters in here. There has been nothing said by Carlton itself that stated they would have accepted 13 and a second. They have not refuted Adelaide's claims that they would only accept 2 1sts. I do not understand why/especially crows supporters would rather believe shit from Carlton supporters and innuendos instead of what has been stated by the Carlton FC itself.
Carlton would have taken 8 and a 3rd I reckon. That suggestion was just a framework, we could have dressed it up enough with what we had.
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But Roo inferred Adelaide did offer this
Well. There you are. It was offered and Carlton rejected it.
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To quote Roo Verbatum ......Carlton wanted 2 x 1st round picks ......we offered to meet halfway with the 2nd
Wish we missed out on Matthew Bode. We would have had pick 12 in the 2000 draft.
No, he didn't. He said specifically that we offered somewhere between two firsts and one first. Noone at the club is willing to hang their nuts out and say what our best offer was. SEN asked Reid 5 times yesterday and he dodged every time.
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I just don't know. It certainly wouldn't have hurt our chances. I tend to think we're two quality mids away from a genuine chance. If we had a chance of bringing in an A grade mid next year via Free Agency, then I'd have pulled the trigger on two firsts. Hopefully we revisit this next year, get Gibbs for a first rounder, and bring in that second mid as a free agent. Not confident of that happening at all though.
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Isn't that what i said & was meant by Roo ......#13 and a 2nd round ?
What other interpretation can you arrive at from this statement ?
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BTW i said "inferred" by Roo
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In terms of changes from 2015 to 2016 semi there really wasn't much difference in the sides playing.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/lis...k=6cd8ab911a1b166b0a267c09537efee3-1477106650
Like I said, who knows if that is true.
I actually agree with you. Hence my surprise that we wrote Rockliff off so early. Once that became apparent, I didn't want Gibbs. What subsequently annoyed me is that we didn't seek to strengthen our draft position.
People are criticising Port, but I'd love 4 Top 35 draft picks this year. Get two right and you have your midfield refit with Sloaney and co still playing good footy.
Youre interpreting that a first and a second is " somewhere in between". Given they've been loathe to say that specifically, I'm inclined to believe the reports to the contrary.
we all know what the clubs real off season plans were. c'mon.
and they were planning it all year. they were so confident in this plan that they didn't make any other plans.
now they are stuck pretending that our new plan was actually the plan all along.
problem is the new plan sucks so much that no one believes it was the plan all along.
now if the clubs original plan didn't involve extreme secrecy and perhaps even certain...exaggerations,
then they might be able to admit to the original plan and admit it failed.
then they would be able to admit that our new plan isn't a plan at all, its just the only thing we can do now.
and they were planning it all year. they were so confident in this plan that they didn't make any other plans.
now they are stuck pretending that our new plan was actually the plan all along.
problem is the new plan sucks so much that no one believes it was the plan all along.
now if the clubs original plan didn't involve extreme secrecy and perhaps even certain...exaggerations,
then they might be able to admit to the original plan and admit it failed.
then they would be able to admit that our new plan isn't a plan at all, its just the only thing we can do now.
Yes! Even in that article it is nothing but hearsay. I had heard that the last offer was supposed to have been 13 next 3rd and Kelly. That article does not mention the 3rd. But who the f... is Jake Niall? Is he a Carlton representative? I don't think so.
Just how serious can we be about organic growth when our coaching staff plays a guy they rank 22nd in their B&F on votes per game for 19 games in a season?
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