Analysis Good, Bad and Not Much Ugly

[Jeffcrowe]

Just saying the age of our list isn't as big of an issue as people on here make it out to be.

*and it was also in response to someone saying how good it was beating an older team in a one game sample size.

On a game to game basis maybe not

In the scheme of things medium term , it definitely is important

 

[whattagun07]

Haven't read through the thread but my thoughts on who was good;

Keays
Milera
Rankine
Rachele
Pedlar
Laird
Dawson
Murray
Soligo
Sloane
Tex did his bit

Others prob were too, but I noticed these guys

Laird and Daws are such a great combo in the middle. They look like they've been playing together for years.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Really good post.

To me, it was a reminder to be patient. I want good things, more wins etc, to happen more quickly.
Nicks has shown that it's a Marathon, not a sprint.
I think Nicks has been amazingly patient with the group and might even have had a five-year plan to get the team into the eight, then seriously contend. It's taken 4 of those years for the Crows to earn the respect and accolades now being shown them.
Nicks was confronted with a mess in 2020; a disunited group and Assistants not of his choosing.
He has worked through the development of players like Fogarty and Jones and shown great patience with Milera who's much better now than 10 weeks ago (he's done more with other players, too; these are just examples).
I'm having trouble to wrap my head around the long-term patience Nicks has shown.
Respect.

I've slept on the win and feel even better about it than last night.
I was thinking that their 1.9 might have been 5.5 or 6.4 on a dry deck, but that's unfair on our defensive unit and floaters like Keays who worked very hard that quarter. I think the 1.9 had a lot to do with the pressure they were under, which caused a lot of hurried kicks and miskicks. Our defence just kept at them, like a terrier. Then, we did to Brisbane what others have done to us after a lot of misses.
Brisbane was in excellent form, like the Pies and PA are now.

It was a tough, hard-scrapped, pressure win which will produce more of the same.
I just gotta be more patient.

BRIS were coming of 7 x consecutive wins ....so they were red hot

Patience is a trait not associated with footy .....CARL's impatience over its history has had monumental negative consequences ....whereas both GEEL & RICH's patience was rewarded in spades

Firstly to assemble the talent is difficult ...but to get any team to play cohesively is even more difficult & can't be fast tracked with inexperience & players being rotated & road-tested thru the side

Impatience has been evident with many players who played yesterday .....with even Pedlar being labelled a failed pick last year .....and Jones is not a failed pick !

We still had 12 players yesterday under 60 games ....still so much upside in this team ...all these kids will get even better; Michalanney, Jones, Thilthorpe, Rachelle, Worrell, Berry, Soligo, Parnell and Gollant

Impatience would have people writing off Cook and Schoenberg .....that would be a mistake IMO

 

[footy4ever]

Butts - destroyed and dismantled Hipwood, who is a very dangerous opponent and a motivator for Brisbane when he's on.

 

[Geoffa32]

Just on Milera, he has always had the ability like Pendlebury to slow time down and get out of traffic. As a kid this was his main trait.

Injuries curtailed this. But it looks like his body is coming good.

He can now do it again. Has a nice size as well.

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[Golumless]

If Smithers is in, McHenry should go out.

Worrel deserves to stay in and our backline worked well with him there.

Probably sounds strange as our midfield depth is shallow, but we play too many mids.

Because of our shallow top end midfield quality.

As Sog and Rachele mature and Rankine builds his stoppage game we will need less mids.

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I'd be very surprised if Ned didn't get axed. He's been relegated to being a depth player. I'd also be surprised if we retained Worrell. Our defense also worked well without him, and leaving Hinge out is a coach killing move. I think Josh is hoping we shuffle Hinge to wing.

Oooh. Not for the McHenry or Murphy, seeing they're just a case of finding a niche role to fill in. I agree though looking at our CBA's as we haven't committed to a third or fourth choice inside mid. We flirted with Rachele and Soglio, Keays had a couple of games, and Sloane is the closest and even then has dropped out a few times. The thing with building a four or five man rotation is it needs to be week in week out consistent who those four or five are. That's what builds chemistry and cohesion in a unit. It's not a case of being match up dependant.

Like i'm critical of VB as a coach, but with how scattergun we've been, I doubt we're giving him a chance to succeed. It is clear we're waiting on Rash, Pedlar and Soligo to step up or Berry to kick out of his slump.

 

[CrowBloke]

Re this:

<rubs hands together>
OK, now if we can win the next two games convincingly, top 4 going into the bye??

It's tongue-in-cheek.

 

[footy4ever]

The fact we have so many players who seem to enrage the folks over on the port board is a very good sign.

Had a read of the Port board's commentary of our game. More salt than a Siberian salt mine and more village idiots and ****wits than a travelling freak show. Good lols though.

 

[John Who]

Really good post.

To me, it was a reminder to be patient. I want good things, more wins etc, to happen more quickly.
Nicks has shown that it's a Marathon, not a sprint.
I think Nicks has been amazingly patient with the group and might even have had a five-year plan to get the team into the eight, then seriously contend. It's taken 4 of those years for the Crows to earn the respect and accolades now being shown them.
Nicks was confronted with a mess in 2020; a disunited group and Assistants not of his choosing.
He has worked through the development of players like Fogarty and Jones and shown great patience with Milera who's much better now than 10 weeks ago (he's done more with other players, too; these are just examples).
I'm having trouble to wrap my head around the long-term patience Nicks has shown.
Respect.

I've slept on the win and feel even better about it than last night.
I was thinking that their 1.9 might have been 5.5 or 6.4 on a dry deck, but that's unfair on our defensive unit and floaters like Keays who worked very hard that quarter. I think the 1.9 had a lot to do with the pressure they were under, which caused a lot of hurried kicks and miskicks. Our defence just kept at them, like a terrier. Then, we did to Brisbane what others have done to us after a lot of misses.
Brisbane was in excellent form, like the Pies and PA are now.

It was a tough, hard-scrapped, pressure win which will produce more of the same.
I just gotta be more patient.

Patience is everything when it comes to a rebuild. But of course improvements is needed so fans don’t be too disgruntled. If I can see genuine passion and improvements, that’s all I really can ask for, and can forgive the minor hiccups along the journey.

Regarding the scoring shots, yes inaccuracies often means the opposition are defending well. On the whole, my stance is that if scoring shots are relatively even between the teams in a match, then the teams have played a relatively even game of footy. If a team has missed a lot of goals, then that’s something that will naturally improve in the following games, according to the averages.

 

[footy4ever]

Correct !.....BRIS soccering the ball a lot, was catching a lot of players out of position ....I'm always fearful when I see that ... as a defender it's hard to read & position for

It was infuriating how much distance they gained constantly kicking it off the ground. Actually a good wet weather tactic.

 

[Rotayjay]

47 to 66 inside 50s. We had much higher inside 50 efficiency because our forward line is elite and it’s our strength, but you don’t win inside 50 like that without controlling the game for large chunks of the game

At the ground it seemed that Brisbane were very good in the territory battle, with long stretches in their forward 50 and repeat entries. Yet we they didn't often kick goals - part of that was good one-on-one defending, part was a lot of their shots on goal being from crap angles, part was luck. When we entered our 50 you almost expected to score a goal.

 

[footy4ever]

I'm not going over there, but who in particular? I'm assuming Rash and Ranks are two of them (Tex is a given).

It's ok to go over there. You wont catch anything if you wear rubber gloves while using your keyboard or touch screen.

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

Surprised by some of the negative Dawson comment by supporters. The guy is clearly our only A grader midfielder and is a Brownlow contender. He is proving to be the perfect captain.

 

[Rotayjay]

Lots of reasons for a low crowd this afternoon but it should be a worry.

There was a time where low 40's was a poor crowd

I've said it before and I'll say it again, one of the reasons our crowds have never reached the heights of 2014 is that the day ticket and even membership prices have gone up well ahead of general inflation, and that was long before inflation became an economic issue in 2021. Even in 2016 and 17 when we were flying, we seldom got the kinds of crowds we got in 2014, the first season at AO when prices were lower.

 

[FR0GGY]

It was infuriating how much distance they gained constantly kicking it off the ground. Actually a good wet weather tactic.

I reckon keays was the only player do do it for us but his were either a 5m one or 20m sideways.

 

[Rotayjay]

We will see I suppose. AFL site had him equal with Daicos on their predictor during the week.
to be honest I couldn’t give a rats toss bag as it’s the stupidest award ever, I was just making the point that he was easily our best tonight and has been all year. The dude us a deadest star. Amazing job by our recruiters.

Daicos will shit in the Brownlow, but Dawson is now our best player. What a pickup from the Swans who are now shit !

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Someone said last week after the Port v Melbourne game and that horrid final boundary throw, that the umpires don’t have the ability to call it back and throw it again

But it happened yesterday. And fair enough too.

Has it ever happened before?

Yes, but rare.

 

[El Doederino]

Just on Milera, he has always had the ability like Pendlebury to slow time down and get out of traffic. As a kid this was his main trait.

Injuries curtailed this. But it looks like his body is coming good.

He can now do it again. Has a nice size as well.

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He still had plenty of occasions where he did all that, and then would dispose to a player in danger basically negating all his good work.

He's getting there though.

 

[jackster83]

Haters will say that Peds fumble last night proves he was playing on in the square against the Saints

He did something to his finger in the contest. Looked to be in some discomfort.

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

Daicos will s**t in the Brownlow, but Dawson is now our best player. What a pickup from the Swans who are now s**t !

It was great karma watching the Swans lose two guns in Dawson and Allir.

 

[ftmch]

When are we going to crack 40,000 for a home game again?

WCE Saturday twilight? Hmmm
North Melbourne Saturday lunchtime? Not too optimistic

Rnd 18 Saturday night vs GWS? Maybe...

Rnd 20 home Showdown. A fair way off

Reckon it's less about the opposition and more about external factors (Mother's Day, shit weather etc..). We get decent weather for the Wet Toast game, surely we break 40k?

 

[Grooster24]

They seem to have a deep hatred for Rachele.

That makes sense. I'd imagine I would too if he played for an opposition team. I'd respect his ability but he'd be one of those players that gets under your skin. Love it.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Haven't read through the thread but my thoughts on who was good;

Keays
Milera
Rankine
Rachele
Pedlar
Laird
Dawson
Murray
Soligo
Sloane
Tex did his bit

Others prob were too, but I noticed these guys

Laird and Daws are such a great combo in the middle. They look like they've been playing together for years.

Just on Laird , he had 16 tackles too

Gets a game in any centre square starting midfield in the comp in my book

Continually outperforms his opponents

 

[StonesThrow]

That makes sense. I'd imagine I would too if he played for an opposition team. I'd respect his ability but he'd be one of those players that gets under your skin. Love it.

Yeah for sure. Easy to see why opposition supporters wouldn't like him.

 

[krrzr]

Yes. We haven't beaten them since 2017.

We beat Brisbane round 18 2018

Cameron wasn't playing in that game, So first time we've defeated Cameron, First time Keays defeated Brisbane